Holby City continues

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The new doctor is at least fun, which Holby desperately needs.

Dom is being absolutely vile. I understand that they want to show his shock, and his hurt, and how betrayed he feels. What I loathe is his petulant spite, his petty little acts of nastiness day after day. All Carole has done is raise him and love him, yet he is far more nasty to her than he is to Ang.

I had thought that the character was maturing, given how much time Sacha and Hanssen have spent acting in a father-like role to him and guiding him, but he's just as narcissistic as ever.

Spot on.

Are you really surprised Dom is behaving like he is? He has just found out, at somewhere around 30, that he has been lied to his whole life and is actually adopted. It's probably a prime example of how not to handle adopting a child!

I'm sure he will calm down and work though it but the lying must be very hard to deal with. He's not really got anyone to talk it through with since Lofty is away performing on tour on s road trip with his grandmother.

All Carole has done is raise him and love him

And lie to him.

That was so common when I was young though. Adoption culture has changed massively over the years and now people are very open about it. I had several friends when I was younger who found out they were adopted in random ways because it wasnttalked about so openly.

Whether it was common not doesn't change how an adopted child might feel about being lied to for their whole life. He's entitled to feel pissed off as he is hurt and angry right now.

No it doesn't change the feelings. However I don't remember any of them taking it out on their adoptive parents but rather being angry with their birth mother. He's behaving ridiculously.

He’s coming across as petty, childish and spiteful.

It had the potential to be such an emotive and quality storyline but the way Dom’s reaction has been scripted makes the whole thing seem a bit ridiculous.

Agree, reverted to childish Dom. One of his hospital Dads need to have a word.

And Arsaac is here soon so we really need to are about Dom again. I wonder if they'll drag this until then and when it all happens he'll need to woman who has always been there for him

Isaac is coming back?? Why? When??

I think Dom's reaction is quite normal. Being told in your 30's that you have been lied to all your life by the person he trusted most and probably loves more than anyone else (Carol) is not a minor thing. I can see why it would turn you back to a petulent child. You would need to reassess your childhood, it would make you feel lost and make you think your whole life is a lie. Not much in Holby is realistic but I think Dom's reaction and feeling of hurt is.

If he was behaving the same way towards Ange that he is towards Carol then maybe it would be easier to watch.

He’s being vile to Carol whilst seeming to not really having a problem with Ange and it just comes across as very distasteful.

He’s being vile to Carol whilst seeming to not really having a problem with Ange and it just comes across as very distasteful

Agreed. I think what makes it more distasteful is that it almost seems that he is contemptuous of Carole but Ange is a surgeon, someone Dom looks up to in professional terms, who he was desperate to work with before he found out who she was - it just all smacks a little bit of Carole not being "good enough" for him any more.

Sadly for Carole she has never been good enough in Dom's eyes.

I thought the grumpy woman was a lone shark and was after Scary Sue for money owed. Very surprised it was for cakes!!

I think Dom redeemed himself a little last night.

I think the reasons being given for Ange not wanting to tell Chloe are a bit flaky. The whole excuse given just seems a like a get out clause because the script writers couldn’t think of anything else to come up with.

I really don’t want to upset anyone who has personal experience of this but I didn’t understand why Ange and Dom both said that one reason Chloe wasn’t adopted was due to being a result of rape. Can somebody explain that?

I was puzzled by that too, mehday. I think her rationale was that it had been so painful to give up her first baby that she couldn't bear to do the same with the second, regardless of the rape. (I did think it a bit strange that she referred to Dom's conception as having been a result of "love", when her previous description of it was a casual hook up!)

mehday - I also have no idea why the rape was the suggested reason for why Ange kept Chloe. It totally baffled me.

Why on earth would Chloe think that it’s because she was a conception of rape that’s why she wasn’t put up for adoption? It makes zero sense and is completely backwards.

Like I said - it just seems like flaky, lazy scriptwriting because the writers can’t come up with a believable reason as to why Ange doesn’t want Chloe to know.

Yeah also seemed backward to me.

Perhaps because Dom was made of puppy love, it was OK to give him away but be asue Chloe was conceived in pain the she had to keep her otherwise it would be twice as bad??

I don't know Tbh.

She said about how Chloe would look at the difference as if Dom had had some charmed life living in a Disney sky Palace raised by fairies as opposed to a difficult childhood with a Dad who never really understood him, an overbearing Mum and a really chaotic love life. VS Chloe who seems to have a far more settled life despite being Nanny raised

Dom even changed the name Carol gave him didn't he. Darren/Dazzle wasn't good enough for him. I understand why he is angry at being lied to but he seems to be trying to replace her with Ange as if the last 32 years didn't happen. He seems desperate to be as important to Ange as Chloe is.

I think Ange is behaving really badly towards Dom. I don't understand why she is so precious about Chloe finding out, as she already knows that she is the result of rape. I get she will be shocked but surely it is obvious that at 14 Ange didn't have the choice of keeping Dom whereas with Chloe it was her decision.

No matter, it will all come out soon no doubt.

Loved the way Essie went to page Sacha in theatre despite being told not to, cos she is in charge, what with her being a nurse. Bit like Fletch dishing out wise words to Jac, a Consultant. Mind you that is all he did do all day apart from stuffing his face with doughnuts.

A quiet day on an NHS ward with 2 consultants racing to get to a patient first! Obviously over-staffed.

Yeah but it's Fletch and Jac so it doesn't count as insubordination. He's the only one that'd get away with it though. I'm glad they're having more scenes together again.

Yes Ange is being a cow. "we can't upset Chloe, she's the child I kept, she'll feel so hard done to"

Mum why didn't you keep Dom?
Because I was 14!!!
Well how come you didn't track them down and go e them me too?
Because I couldn't bear to lose another child and I was older
Oh OK, that makes sense

Friends of my parents only told their son he was adopted in his early 20s, as was often the case back in the 80s. He refused to speak to them for two years, so I think Dom's reaction there is entirely understandable.

I am lost re Chloe and the rape thing though. And Ange has swung very fast from desperate for Dom's love to cold shoulder.

Good point, Isit - at the beginning of the episode she's asking him to identify her earworm, all giggly and skittish; ten minutes later she's giving him the swerve.

I hope Issac isn't coming back. I can't stand the sight of him.

I think Ange is behaving badly. I don't understand why.

Dom needs to be nicer to Carol.