Unforgotten is back!

[QueenOfTheAndals]

Starts on Sunday on ITV1.

Does anyone remember how, in the last series, Sunny got very irate when Cassie said it was no surprise the victim became a paedo as he'd been abused too? Sunny was insistent that just because you were abused it didn't mean you'd become an abuser. I wondered if there was some back story there.

Yes I remember that. (And agree with sunny) . But I was mostly surprised actually at how agressive cassie was about it, given in her profession she must come across it more often than most. But she seemed to take it very personally and happy to risk her career /be unprofessional.

I agree with previous posters who have said that we will see loose ends tied up in the final episode. The Tim Finch / DV issue (perhaps his current wife will disclose something), Elliot and his father finding a way forwards in their relationship, Chris also moving forwards in his relationship (I am putting my money on the fact that he is not guilty of any offences and will feel able to make a fresh start).

I do think John the police officer is implicated (not convinced his real name is John...he had a conversation with Cassie in a previous episode which I can’t find now about his name...I’m thinking it might be his middle name or something and he is actually Ade). The twin is also somehow implicated...she is Hayley. The relationship between John and Hayley was found out and was going to be disclosed.

I don’t think the four men have anything to do with ‘Hayley’s’ murder but time has caught up with them and they are now having to face their demons too.

Of course I have absolutely no idea!

Where is it written in stone that the murderer/s have to be well-known? Newcomers can be capable of dramatic final big scenes too - many young actors are astonishingly good at their craft.

I think you're being actorist.

It’s just a convention of TV dramas. I guess we’ll see on Sunday, won’t we?

I can't wait!

DP's theory is this. He thinks it could be James who did it - James has managed to convince Elliott all these years that he ran over Hayley, but in fact he killed her himself possibly as part of a weird sex game. (Wasn't there evidence in an earlier episode about him having some very dodgy sexual tastes?) And that's why he was so keen to cover up from the start - not because he was protecting Elliott.

Southeast, image this scene:

Morning, summer, James is sitting at his desk next to the open french windows with his overstuffed diary open at today's page. His phone rings.

India-Jane (James's agent)
"Darling, how are you. (It's not a question). Only twenty scripts came in this morning, but there's one I think really super and made for you. "

James:
"Oh, yes?' (He shrugs and shifts his weight from side to side in his customary fashion)

India-Jane:
"Totes, Darling. Prime time Sunday night, Nicola Walker vehicle, you play a depressed, murdering paedophile! It has your name all over it!'

James:
"Er, well, ok, I'll have a look at it. What else is there?"

I-J:
"Oh, just some silly new Netflix eight-parter they want you to front and an Apple Mac ad."

James shrugs again and tips head:
"Ok, love, pop it over and I'll have a, you know, look at it".

Not.

Random fact: IRL James is married to Mrs Hughes from Downton! He's also been in all the Pirates of the Caribbean films, which must be a nice little earner.

Wait, I meant the actor who plays James. Not James Fleet, who I still think of as Hugo!

Lots of interesting ideas. DD and I have come up with something outlandish- the twins seems to be divided into Hayley who was cool/naughty and uncool/less popular sister. we wondered whether uncool twin, dressed as her sister and got off with the boyfriend (teacher/suspect bloke) and some drama ensued.

It's not a fully evolved idea obvs but I'm sure there must be some form of mistaken identity somewhere- otherwise why make them identical.

I thought the point of them being identical was to emphasise the trauma for the parents - they wouldn't have to wonder what Hayley would look like at x or y age because the other twin was right there in front of them.

And with the way the twin (can't remember her name) wailed at the end of the first episode, I think she's genuinely mourning her sister and isn't involved in her murder.

I hope!

I completely agree Queen - the fact there is a surviving identical twin must be so hard both for the parents & also the surviving sister.

John-the-cop commented, however, that Hayley was mature for her age. Would you say that about someone you have never met? And her diaries don’t portray her as mature to me. I think they were involved with each other somehow.

And I agree with previous poster that there was some jealousy between the twins which could have resulted in some kind of altercation.

True about making a well known actor the murderer

That happens in the series where a man kept a teenager locked up. Can’t R.E.M. the name

Turned out to be the army man

Someone said it was him from e1 due to being famous and wouldn’t have small part

I don’t know the monarch /policemen in this - can’t be that famous 😉😉😉

That was season 2 of The Missing Blondes.

I don't know the Monarch guy either, so not famous to me!

Blonde it was The Missing, with the lovely Tcheky Karyo.

...who has a new series called Baptiste, reprising his character, on later this year they say.

That’s it. Baptiste and the missing

He was lovely

Well done 🌟🌟

Re-watching last episode as my concentration wasn't great Sunday.

Why did Tim believe Chris or at least pretend to? When his wife, business partner and all his other friends didn't?

I think there is a paedophile ring here. Some of the kids / teens were also being abused by the ring - including Elliot, Dr's dd and others. The trip to the holiday rental in Middenham (sp?) was a cover to pursue some kind of organised mass abuse. There must be a reason why the other of Doc's dds is so fanatically in favour of her dad being a saint - there is definite denial and brainwashing going on there.

The doc is the culprit who downloaded the child abuse images on Chris's work computer - he framed him so that in the future he would have leverage. now he behaves like poor lost Chris's saviour when in fact he is his destroyer. He is the one who broke into the caravan.

Hayley somehow discovered the abuse and was intending to tell the cops.

I realise all this sounds a bit garbled and weird....... I deffo think there is a whole child abuse ring though .

I don’t think so because that’s too similar to the story in the second series.

Rhythm - just think that's a bit too similar in some areas to a previous "Unforgotten"

The doc is the culprit who downloaded the child abuse images on Chris's work computer*

this would make sense though

Dr Tim is definitely dodgy and I agree has used Chris to cover his tracks. Whether this has anything directly to do with the murder though I’m not sure. John surely has to be involved somewhere along the line otherwise I’m not sure why he is in it apart from a potential love interest for Cassie.

Certainly the truth about lots of people will be disclosed. Those who were considered to be guilty (such as Elliot and Chris) will be found innocent and those thought to be innocent and wholesome will be found to be guilty of lies and deception, if not murder.