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Starts on Sunday on ITV1.

The traffic police mention is an excellent shout from pp. Must be significant somehow and generally the introduction of Monarch of the Glen itself. Do they know how long she had been dead before the body was buried there? Sorry if I've missed that bit. I know they said the local town was swarming so almost impossible to keep her there.

They've said very little about the body or the burial.

I mean how does someone bury a body under the M1? You'd think that would be quite a big part of the investigation 🤔

I think given everything that's happened to Cassie and how she feels she is failing she will be the one who solves it

It's the M1 though, who's going to stop their vehicle on a winter's night because they see someone digging or filling in a hole in the central reservation? It could have been anyone, with no hi-viz the burier ought to have been less noticeable, so I think MoG as traffic cop is likely a red herring. Junior police do traffic duty as part of the job anyway, especially in rural areas. Was there any motorway CCTV to check? If so I missed it.

Go, MoG! Cassie needs you

I think it's possible ex cop did something dodgy, held back that info and it ends up being relevant but he didn't think it was? So he's fucked up, not realised yet the relevance to this case and that gets revealed in last ep?

Yes I can well imagine murdered twin denying knowledge of murderer/event, murderer not knowing she's an identical twin not believing her and that enraging them.

Yes I thought it was spouse of killer in s1 from quite early on too (now I've been reminded). May watch after this series finishes but not now as it'll just confuse me!

Lack of body problematic yes, but given the writer is positing there WAS a big investigation (as I said before, in reality I think this would be unlikely. I think she'd have been written off as a runaway, or troublemaker that got into drugs etc) then it's bloody incompetent that the main suspects in the series weren't even identified as being potential witnesses! Let alone interviewed!

Hogtini to keep it realistic, it's very difficult to time a death even a few weeks after. Essentially the sooner a body is found the easier it is to establish time of death - but the current science is not infallible. Almost 20 years later it'd be virtually impossible. They're basing when they think she died on when she disappeared. At any point, extremely difficult to establish if not a standard funeral, the time lapse between death and burial decades later. Things used to establish time of death - state of decomposition, insect activity, microbial activity...have had too long to change. (I know way more about this stuff than I should).

Frighteningly easy for a body to be buried under a road or building being repaired/built - it's why it's a favoured method used by gangs for "disappearing" people.

There's even recognised procedures for engineers to act and report upon finding remains during a demolition or when they're deepening foundations and find them.

With a hi-viz jacket - passing drivers think killer meant to be there, without - possibly barely notice, think they've lost something?

Hayley may not have died when she disappeared, her death may have been later, making it more likely that here could have been a swap with the other twin. That timeline shift would throw a spanner in the works working out who the killer was.

Well yea, I don't think they've assumed she was killed IMMEDIATELY she went missing, but X amount of time after. Through getting to know eg she'd not packed anything so unlikely to have run away, when she last used her cash card they'll be able to roughly finesse the parameters.

Pete died???

I missed that

I thought they said he would be ok

Can I just say I said first the dr did it in episode 1 😂😂😂

Tho agree the knickers aren’t of a 15yr and would you really keep trophy’s

Daughter obv know believers her mum

Certain types of serial offenders do keep trophies.

Pete was in hospital, thought to be recovering but died, I think heart attack or brain haemorrhage?

Ok we'll award you the "you spotted whodunnit"

Though we will prob find out it wasn’t doc 🙄

Can’t beleive I missed that bit about PETE dying. I blame df trying to talk to me 😂😂

And please can we stop saying wish I hadn’t read the link -radio times etc -

Never read in tv mags about series esp last episodes coz I don’t want to known

I def don’t want any spoilers

Thank you :)

Another theory -
The hair scrunchy, cross and knickers discovered in Tim's basement - he could have put them there for "safe-keeping" because it was actually Tim who broke in to Chris's van thingy and stole them from his lock-box - in the break-in very early in the series -that's why he didn't harm or steal the dog.
He knows Chris killed Hayley and is protecting him - which is why he went back for the body.

Tim could be both covering for Chris and simultaneously holding evidence to incriminate him, and prove his own innocence, hence why he is so solicitous towards Chris and has always looked out for him.

Or it's the dodgy policemen - or - oh gawd I don't bloody know...

Tim was up north at the time of the break-in, wasn't he? Chris was in Bristol.

Oh I had forgotten about the van break in - if I have been able to forget it makes me think it is significant - so you go oooooohhhhh yeeeaaaahh. When it all falls into place

Really good interview with Sanjeev Bhaskar in the TV Times.

He jokes about how he has to keep a straight face every time his wife Meera Syal tries to guess who the killer is.

Helena is that available online?

I LOVE Sanjeev, much underrated actor I feel.

FawnDrench - that's an interesting theory the the van burglary!

@Meera Syal I love her! I didn’t know they were married.

Yes @KateGrey, they weren't involved when they made Goodness Gracious Me (she was married to someone else then, IIRC) but got together later and had a child. Funny to think that she was playing his grandmother on The Kumars at the time!

I was actually on the tube last year and noticed I was sitting next to Meera so before getting off at my stop I told her I was a big fan and she was very gracious.

I found the bit where they said he died. Heart attack

Really surprised that they killed him off

Will the other 3 blame him now he’s dead - ie doc try and get out of it

Plus

Cassie will feel awful as was her fault indirectly :( with the forgotten file

Ive looked Graphista but cant see it online.

Oh aye I wonder if they’ll all turn on Pete to blame him for all the wrongs they’ve done!

Monarch of the Glen is a bit too good to be true, isn't he? Good-looking, self-effacing, evr-helpful, not deterred by Cassie's brush offs, happy to give a peck on the cheek & not receive one in return. I was completely taken in by him. No change there then, that's the story of my life in the zero-discernment lane!

I thought the twist at the end of series 1 was that the Police thought it was the other one, but knew they didn't have the evidence required to prove it. (Hope that doesn't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen it - I heartily recommend, if this is you, that you do!)

He is, and him being fairly well known fits with my theory that the writer would only give big scenes to well-known actors, which is why I’m still predicting a paedophile reveal scene for James Fleet (Chris).

Just seen the trailer for last episode...! Very interesting, more to come to light in the last episode.

Thanks for trying Helena.

I can definitely see at least dr Tim deflecting blame onto Pete.

Sunday can't come quick enough.

Just watched the trailer for the whole series which would've been before series started and sunny says "it's the closest thing to evil I've ever witnessed" - he's not said that yet has he?