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Watched last episode of LOST last night

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hellish · 24/05/2007 18:49

I'm in Canada, just watched last episode of series 3, have you seen it yet?
Or would anyone like to know what happens???

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BandofMothers · 31/05/2007 10:45

Jools think that was just a dif take
I didn't notice the anagram. I think the people that notice that, watch it 200 times and pause things.
I don't have that much time

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 11:01

I've got used to Charley's accent. But his childhood accent! And his father's accent! Gah.

Also, I find the whole 'morphine addicted sad pathetic bloke' thing a bit tired.

I am also, to be fair, getting sick of the whole absent/rubbish/evil father theme. Does anyone have a non-evil father? Isn't everyone's problem down to, basically, some bad father figure? (Kate's step-dad. Locke's dad. Jack's dad. Ben's dad.)

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 11:02

Oh, and Hurley's dad. Sawyer's dad. Desmond's fiancee's dad.

Charley seems to be the only one whose father isn't part of the problem.

BandofMothers · 31/05/2007 11:07

Maybe that is it, you've cracked it. They are all there cos they have crap dads.

Flame · 31/05/2007 11:08

I came up with the dad theory last season

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 11:10

Well, I don't know if that's the reason. I just know if I was JJ Abram's bloke's dad, I'd be feeling pretty twithy.

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 11:10

Or twitchy. One of those.

schneebly · 31/05/2007 11:15

The other thing that is still confusing me is the names!

locke
rousseau
\link{desmond is called desmond david hume}

?

schneebly · 31/05/2007 11:16

desmond doh!

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 11:20

I honestly think the names are just them being poncy.

Or maybe the names fit in with the 'everyone's dad sucks' theory? After all, who the hell would call their child 'John Locke'?

Seriously, the philosopher names all just fit with the nationalities of the characters named after them. Not sure there is that much of a link between their beliefs and the characters ... although Hume has a lot to say about causation, which does fit with Desmond, hmmm.

BandofMothers · 31/05/2007 11:21

interesting schneebly

perhaps they are all just a state of mind, or something wierd. if so tho how could they be rescued?

schneebly · 31/05/2007 11:23

maybe jj was a philosophy student!

TheArmadillo · 31/05/2007 11:42

geek alert.

When it first started I read up on John Locke (the philosopher) and he wrote stuff about what would happen if humanity went back to basics - what kind of society was needed etc. (all to do with the human condition). It kinda matches up with Locke's stance on the whole thing (I think I decided at the time - can't remember it now). COuldn't be bothered to do it with the others.

schneebly · 31/05/2007 12:56

I am a geek to armadillo - you know John Locke's idea of 'tabula rasa' or 'blank slate' - well there was an episode in season one called tabula rasa!

schneebly · 31/05/2007 12:56

and I only know this stuff because I was studying nature vs nurture for my degree!

schneebly · 31/05/2007 13:09

obv that should have said "I am a geek too"

JoolsToo · 31/05/2007 15:18

As I had a bit of spare time today I rewatched the bearded Jack scenes and I deffo think its the future.

The funeral parlour is Hoffs Drawlar - translates to 'flash forward'???

When he meets Kate at the end she says 'I saw you on the news, still pulling people out of burning wreckages?' Then he talks about flying a lot - hoping to crash - praying to get back. He's sick of lying(?) 'we made a mistake' 'we were not supposed to leave' 'we have to go back'

All of this went completely over my head on first viewing, its only when you lot got talking that a bell started ringing somewhere in the distance. I thought it was all the past and was confused about him know Kate - doh!

Meid · 31/05/2007 15:37

I don't think it was a flash forward or a flash back. I think they have gone back to re-live a chunk of their past like Desmond did.

Jack and Kate said how they were not meant to see each other. Perhaps because they know they are living out the past again they know they are not supposted to already know each other and therefore not have communication and so cannot risk changing the future.

Therefore, the person in the coffin could have been anyone. Maybe Kate's father when she killed him? This upsets Jack because he's having a break down from trying to relive what has already happened.

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 16:40

No, deffo supposed to be the future. Or a future.

  • he had lots of maps and details of planes, trying to work out where the island was
  • he was clearly upset, and wanted to get back to the island
  • he knew Kate - I think they weren't supposed to see each other because Sawyer is possessive

Ok, I can't explain his father being alive, but I put that down to the island's weirdo healing powers.

NotQuiteCockney · 31/05/2007 16:41

Oh, and the golden ticket is another sign it's the future - Oceanic Airline's way to compensate, presumably. And the flying, trying to get back.

JoolsToo · 31/05/2007 18:41

yes he said he wanted it to crash - to get back

Tillyboo · 31/05/2007 23:28

As I mentioned earlier on this thread ...

The coffin looked short, so someone Ben's height would fit. The coffin looked too short for someone Sawyer's size for example.
Maybe Juliette ??

My head hurts, too many theories to cope with

JoolsToo · 31/05/2007 23:40

I think theories on the length of the coffin are stretching it a bit

DisneyonIce · 01/06/2007 07:34

ok, here's some good stuff from a friend in the states (although I think he means ABC, not NBC)

"So I was reading some comments on some blogs about Lost and came across a number of interesting observations concerning the finale, thought you might be interested.

"The name of the funeral home (Hoffs/Drawlar) anagrams to "Flash Forward."

"Do not think that Jack mentioning his father means that his father is alive. No one at the hospital acknowledged such a fact. And when the pharmacist tried to call the office he storms away saying don't bother." Just because he was drunkenly ranting about his father doesn't mean his father is alive.

If Naomi was really a bad guy we had only her word for it that the world at large already thought they were dead

Naomi also told them that Oceanic went under after the crash due to financial difficulties arising from the crash. That doesn't jive with jack flying with them in the flash forward...proving either that won't really happen, or Naomi was lying, or both.

NBC has lot's of LOST related web sites for fans, part of the new kind of marketing by making a game of it - both drawing people into the world of your show, and drawing people to your websites. Heroes, for instance, setup a web site for the paper company where Mr Bennett worked, and if you went there and clicked on just the right things you could get clues and hints to look for other things. One of Lost sites like that was oceanic-airlines.com. It seems to be down now, but when it was up it said that the airline had to close down due to financial trouble.
Many people scanned the obituary Jack had from screen shots and came up with the full text.:
Here is the obit:
"The body of John Lantham of New York was found shortly after 4 am in the 4300 block of Grand Avenue.Ted Worden, a doorman at the Tower Lofts complex, heard loud noises coming from the victim's loft. Concerned for tenants' safety, he entered the loft and found the body hanging from a beam in the living room. According to Jaime Ortiz, a police spokesman, the incident was deemed a suicide after medical tests. Latham (sic) is survived by one teenaged son. Memorial services will be held at the Hoffs-Drawlar Funeral Home tomorrow evening."

Clearly there is no one named John Lantham on the show. Best guess as to who was on the show was Michael. Changed his name after getting back. He's the only character from New York other than Rose & Bernie. He's an Artist, hence the living in a loft. He's survived by a teenage son. The funeral parlor was in a poor black neighborhood of LA, and someone pointed out that it is very unlikely someone white would have a funeral there. No one would want to go to his funeral, certainly. He has more reason than anyone on the show - so far - to hang himself.
And they misspell his name the second time it's mentioned in the obit to Latham. John Latham is the name of an artist from the 50's who also devised a concept called "flat time". I'm not sure I understand it but in an explanation of a piece of art he devised to represent "flat time" the explanation says 'This represents the present moment in passing time which can only be made sense of when related to what has already gone, the past...".
that certainly seems meaningful in regards to Lost.
Anyhow, probably Michael."

TheArmadillo · 01/06/2007 23:15

all I can say to that is cool!!!

Have to spend some time getting my head around it.

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