BBC Casualty: everything from the cranium to the phalanges

[StripySocksAndDocs]

New thread as the old one comes to its end.

[QueenofmyPrinces]

Fantastic episode. Let’s just hope she survives!

[Bibesia]

Is there a back story for the obstetrician? I'm not up to date on Holby.

[PaddingtonBearHardStare]

Is there a back story for the obstetrician? I'm not up to date on Holby.

Nope I watch both and never seen him before. Happy to be corrected though my mind wanders

[ellesbellesxxx]

He treated Keegan (Leigh-Anne’s son) and warned Ethan about improper relations but that’s the first time since that he has appeared

[Whenwillthewashingend]

Wasn't he also the Doctor who looked after Robyn's baby when she was first born?

[PaddingtonBearHardStare]

Haha I did say my mind wanders

[MissEliza]

Did they really need the ambulance to crash? It was a really good episode until then.

[SerendipityFelix]

Hello Casualty people! I just caught up with last night's episode (am working weird shift myself this weekend). OMFG! I thought they'd be a casualty thread on here to dissect it :-) glad to find you.

I can't believe he pushed her through the window! Just goes to show who he really is when the chips are down. Alisha had a bloody good point. He's a 'nice bloke', good doctor, people like him etc etc but he still felt entitled to force sex against her wishes, and genuinely doesn't believe he raped her, he just made it all ok in his own head. And when faced with the truth, lashes out a violently assaults her. He seems to genuinely believe he is a better person than he is.

Had Ian already informed the police? Where was Eddie when they left in the ambo?
Is Ian ok? Ruby and Alisha seemed ok immediately after the crash but Ian wasn't replying I guess there's a big risk Alisha could bleed out in the ambulance though. If she survives she might lose her hand/arm. Argh! I thought it was very well done that we just heard Ian shout and then kept the focus on the back of the ambulance during the crash rather than any drama on the road itself.

The burns storyline was good too (although I could perhaps have done with maybe Rash audience-explaining to Gem the significance of what percentage of burns, as clearly all the medical staff knew what the numbers would mean for survival but we didn't!). I feel like we could have done with more back story for the paediatric doctor and his family though, is it just that his wife thought he was having affair because he spent so much time at work? Was he having a breakdown anyway? Is there some significance that he warned Ethan about relationships with patients/parents and has now been accused of an affair? And now he has significant burns to his hands, which might end his surgery career.

[SerendipityFelix]

Assuming Eddie is now arrested again and charged with assault against a woman he's already on bail pending a charging decision for raping, he'd go straight to prison on remand if he is charged, right? They can't let him out on bail again as he's a clear risk to her safety?

Yes I know I am overinvested/overanalyzing!

[Violetroselily]

Is it just me or has Ethan been missing for the last few weeks?

[Bibesia]

I thought they did explain the significance of the burns? They talked about the fact that 37% was serious but potentially survivable in a fit youngish woman. Dylan was awesome. If I ever ended up in Holby A&E, he's the only one I would want treating me.

I thought I saw Ian in the trailer for next week, from which I assumed he's OK. But it was difficult to tell what was going on.

[StripySocksAndDocs]

Just managed to catch up. All I've to say is .

I thought about the ambulance crashing as he hurtled down the road, and kept looking back to talk. Though still was surprised when it happened. Wonder why it's been included. Ian might not have called the police yet, and Eddie will either confess or be more deceitful?

[Violetroselily]

Yes that's a good point re not calling the police yet. On the one hand, you'd think he'd have done it whilst at the scene so not to let an offender escape, but equally they needed to get Alicia to hospital ASAP.

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

Just caught up with last night’s episode. That was full of drama! How did they pack it all in to 50 mins?

I felt the numerous complications thrown up in the consent storyline were well done and accurately represented all the problems of these cases - the flirting, the drink, the condoms, the consensual sex, even her initial laughing “no” when she first pushed him off before she realised that he wasn’t going to stop. I am in NO WAY a rape apologist and firmly acknowledge that no means no, but you can see how he managed to reframe that evening in his own mind to something he was comfortable with.

Over on Digital Spy, there’s some discussion about whether Connie was right to suspend Eddie (legally rather than morally). I think that, given he’s on bail pending a potential charge of rape, she had to, didn’t she? I’m not sure how it works.

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

Re calling the police, I think they can radio for fire crew support when they need it so it may be the same for police? So, Ian may have done that as they were loading Alicia

There must be consequences for Eddie and this might be how the programme makers get round the fact that he would never have been charged with rape in that situation in the real world, so they have him done for GBH/ ABH (what’s the legal difference, does anyone know?) instead?

Yes, I’m way overinvested too!

[JustDanceAddict]

Caught up too. Amazing episode - the grimmest for ages.

[MissEliza]

TheOnly do you mean he wouldn't have been charged or a jury wouldn't have found him guilty? I think the whole issue of consent has been handled really well. Just because a woman has consented once to having sex with a man, he doesn't need consent again . I believe a significant amount of people think that.

[TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross]

MissEliza - I felt that the woman interviewing Alicia was trying to prepare her for the fact that the CPS were unlikely to press charges in light of the CCTV footage of them having consensual sex in the alley. She talked about the way that Eddie's solicitor would spin that. Especially as Alicia didn't mention that in her original version of events.

The CPS only go ahead with those cases that they think they have a reasonable chance of winning, and I don't think Alicia's would be one of those cases. This website explains it better than I can!

Don't get me wrong: it makes me angry that this is the case, but so many people would see that footage as evidence that he can't possibly have then raped her later that same night - because consent once is consent forever, right?

I am always very relieved by the fact that my students are always appalled by the fact that there was, in the eyes of the law, no such crime as rape within marriage until the early 1990s. I get them to guess when a married woman's right to say no to sex was enshrined in law, and they always guess much much earlier than that. Their horror reassures me that they have some understanding of the concept of consent for each sexual encounter.

[MissEliza]

Yes I'm old enough to remember the debate out rape within marriage. I was a teenager and I thought it was terrifying that a woman could have no say over her own body.

[Gingerninj]

Just seen the latest episode, i could see the crash coming as Ian kept turning his head. I was thinking (and saying to the tv) as if enough hasn't already happened but wow that was a really good episode

[AlasEarwax]

I thought the scene in Alicia's kitchen with Eddie was brilliantly done because we just didn't see it coming. I think we were put off the scent by seeing Alicia cutting up veg with a big knife. I said to DP that she's going to stab him and get herself into trouble, then suddenly there was a twist where he pushes her through the window. That's how I interpreted it anyway.... I hope that made sense!.

[MadisonAvenue]

Caught up with this last night 😳

Aside from everything else, Dylan was awesome. I loved how he addressed the team afterwards.

[HalleLouja]

Dylan was awesome, almost statesman like. Connie also did a good job, supporting Alicia and telling Eddie that he could no longer work there. I may have cheered her.

It was like Casualty of old and I had to watch it through my fingers. The burns victim looked very familiar.

[SerendipityFelix]

Yes was so chuffed with Connie

[spiderlight]

Just caught up.I was expecting the knife to be involved as well - didn't see the fall through the window coming, or the crash! That was proper old-school Casualty, that was. Can't wait for tonight now!!