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Kiri, Channel4, Wed 10th Jan

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southeastdweller · 07/01/2018 20:34

Anyone else looking forward to this? The writer also wrote the recent Robbie Coltrane drama, National Treasure, and Sarah Lancashire is always superb.

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2017-10-31/kiri-channel-4-trailer/

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DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 22:09

I’m getting more and more fed up with the factual inaccuracies with this show. It’s ruining it for me. Surely they could have written it without making up the facts to suit the story.

TeenTimesTwo · 24/01/2018 22:11

Also, teaching is a pretty full on profession and she said her husband earns enough to keep them all so he works full time too. How on earth does that work with fostering? I thought foster parents had to have at least one parent Home full time?

Fostering was the 'glue' according to conversation between the foster parents. Hmm How the hell did they get through approval?

If a foster child is of school age, I guess it is possible for a foster parent to be a teacher. Though it is unclear to me how long the FM had been off work v how long they had been fostering for.

Clawdy · 24/01/2018 22:13

Yes, it's a bit too predictable if it turns out to be the son. And surely Lia W's false information about the car could be disproved by CC tv anyway?

SoleBizzz · 24/01/2018 22:14

Wondering if Matthew Fraser killed her

blueskyinmarch · 24/01/2018 22:15

I guess next week we will see it from Kiri's point of view and we will know exactly what happens and who did it.

FawnDrench · 24/01/2018 22:15

Surely the police woman doesn't believe FM's "sighting" of the gold bmw.
It's bloody ridiculous about her recollecting seeing the car.

And that pseudo handshake afterwards - she can't be that gullible - can she??

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 22:18

Yes I wonder when she assaulted the pupil? If fostering was the glue then the affair was discovered before Kiri and FM has been off work for 5 years at least because she assaulted the pupil the day after her husband found out about the affair. Surely when going through the fostering application they would have asked why she wasn’t at work? They would have had references from her head teacher and asked for a doctors letter to confirm she was off work sick. Because she couldn’t have told the real reason she was off work.

blueskyinmarch · 24/01/2018 22:20

She said she didn't need to work because her DH earned enough so she could have lied and said she had left to pursue fostering. If the school gave a reference for her they would lie as they were covering up the assault.

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 22:26

Oh yes that’s true! So the school would risk a child being assaulted by her just to avoid giving a truthful reference.

passmethewineplease · 24/01/2018 22:39

That batbroom scene was really strange.

I'm beginning to wonder if there is some sort of incestual feelings from simon towards his Mum. The way the dad said he loves her. Just sounded weird.

I agree though it's too obviois. Hmm.. Hmm

Off topic but who she was having the affair with was gorgeous. Grin

I hope they don't believe the sighting of the birth dads car!! I thought she deleted the pic because it looked as if he was rough playing with her.. not sure.

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 22:44

I noticed the flat chest. It's interesting she is not traditionally beautiful but is refered to as the pretty white woman.

The bathroom scene was horrible!

Lottapianos · 24/01/2018 22:46

Yes I wondering whether she had had a mastectomy too

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 22:52

CoolCarrie "What’s happen to Sarah L’s dog? I hope it’s alright after last week" the dog is also an actor. Wink

@DonnyAndVladSittingInATree "Does anyone else find it just utterly bizarre that this couple would decide to adopt/foster a child. They had a 10 year old son who has been an only child all his life." Not at all, our dd was 9 when ds came aged 3. Prior to this we had almost two years of preparation to adopt and prior to that over 6 years of fertility treatment. We had been trying to have another baby since dd was one, that 's eight years.

"Why on earth would he suddenly want to share his life and parents with a stranger, and one who very likely had issues that would make his life a lot less comfortable and carefree."

Maybe he really wanted a sibling, maybe the parents really wanted to parent again.

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 22:53

It was the “you’re in recovery” comment that made me think of cancer and then I couldn’t tell if she was hiding scars or just her breasts.

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 22:56

It was really specifically this couple that, to me, don’t really seem like ideal candidates for being foster parents. I know they said they wanted a sibling for their son but I just can’t see it. None of them come across as particularly child oriented. Maybe things just massively changed since Kiri arrived and they aren’t the same people they used to be.

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 23:00

@blueskyinmarch "Foster carers do have to have one parent who doesn't work outside the home. That bit makes no sense at all."

I don't think that is accurate. It would be very hard to work full time but we don't know she worked full time.

Plus if the foster dad worked from home (was self employed) maybe he was at home with Kiri. If Kiri went to the school where FM worked then presumably it would not be so difficult.

I agree it may not be common but it may not be impossible.

www.capstonefostercare.co.uk/knowledge-centre/can-you-foster-and-work/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA-qDTBRD-ARIsAJ_10yJVKvQSPc2E2dGPo2PACdrVIr474wpq87_BwZiNocxU6UQ2KC_XvJIaAuDBEALw_wcB

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 23:09

@DonnyAndVladSittingInATree I wonder if, according to he programme, they wanted to adopt when they applied, I don't know 6 years ago. That's slightly longer ago than I applied. When I applied there were a lot more children in the system, a combination of factors I think. Prior to that the wait was quite long sometimes years for matching after approval.

What does still seem weird is that they wanted to adopt, were approved to foster Kiri and she came to live with them five years ago. Had they tried to adopt her before.

I think the boy's diffiuclt behaviour (I think he is meant to be on the Autistic Spectrum, but mild, disliked at school etc, bit quirky, no offense to anyone who has a child on the spectrum (I think mine is) but that is how he is coming across.

They had hoped another child would glue them back together, as many couples might try for another baby.

Maybe Kiri was very difficult, attachment issues, or maybe she was not, maybe she was very normal and very different to their son.

Either way, the glue failed and they feel their failed her, so rather just mourning her death there is all kinds of guilt attached to loss of Kiri. I think this is true for the birth family too. Everyone failed Kiri. It is actually very sad and I feel kind of ghoulish enjoying watching it.

Almost no-one seems to be acting how I would expect them to act, except maybe the Granddad - he's so flawed and foolish but he seems to be acting more as I might expect someone to act. Having said this I know a number of people who have lost children in real life, and they all acted very differently (to each other and to how I would expect them to act).

HouseOfMouse · 24/01/2018 23:12

It's been a couple of times now that the son has done donething inappropriate and then said "I thought it would be funny". I wonder if this will also be what happened with Kiri?

BitOfFun · 24/01/2018 23:14

I would have thought that one of the first things the police would do would be to search the family home, perhaps to look for evidence that Kiri had been making arrangements with people online etc.

AnyFucker · 24/01/2018 23:22

My stupid dodgy box went wonky during the bathroom scene with foster mum and Simon. What happened please ?

And is anyone else finding the background music really irritating ?

DonnyAndVladSittingInATree · 24/01/2018 23:22

I think they did say in episode 1 that they tried to adopt but couldn’t but I can’t remember the reason.

AnyFucker · 24/01/2018 23:22

Hiya BOF x

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 23:25

@DonnyAndVladSittingInATree "I think they did say in episode 1 that they tried to adopt but couldn’t but I can’t remember the reason."

The wait was a long time so they fostered instead. That bit seems very untrue. I think the training is a bit different, I think you need to say at the start whether you are being accessed as foster carers or adopters.

Six years ago there was a long wait, but within a year or two things had changed a lot.

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 23:30

@AnyFucker "My stupid dodgy box went wonky during the bathroom scene with foster mum and Simon. What happened please ?"

You can watch at www.channel4.com/programmes/kiri/on-demand/65215-003

Basically, the mum was having a shower, the son came in, she was clearly embarrassed. She grabbed a very small towel.

He said why do you come home to shower when you have been with lover-boy, is it so dad can smell him in the house, or words to that affect.

He said he had followed her and made her promise not to see the man again as he did not want to read about it in the paper.

She promised and it looked like he was leaving, and then he told her a girl at school had sent him a message and he had said something like "Send us a picture of your tits." She had sent him a naked shot and then met him and allowed him to touch her. The mum kept trying to get him out of the bathroom.

Then he grabbed her towel and she sat on the loo seat and he threw it back to her and said he was joking. Very fucking odd.

"And is anyone else finding the background music really irritating ?"

Yes, it's awful.

Italiangreyhound · 24/01/2018 23:31

"He said he had followed her and made her promise not to see the man again" *until the press interest in her was over.