A further Holby City thread

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New year, new thread! Looking forward to tonight's episode ...

That was one of the worst episodes I've watched in a good while.

I can't believe Henrik would behave like that.

I’ve just caught up. That was the worst episode ever. HH just wouldn’t behave like that. I don’t get what was going on with Essie, or Ollie, or the whole ‘Jackie’ thing. And suddenly Rik is free? Only surprised not to see him back already - they could have called him in for the super surgery, which just happened to be needed in the middle of the night.

And Ollie wasn’t able to be at home by himself last week, but now he’s fine to leave? And Essie can just walk out?

HH would never physically attack Fletch. Why was that needed?

Don’t know if I’ll bother next week!

What a load of drivel.

Didn’t understand any of it.

And if Fletch gets together with Jac and they have 5 children between them.......🙄🙄

Glad it isn't just me. I thought it was drivel but decided I probably just hadn't been concentrating enough.

It was all a step too far.

The Ollie thing - he just overdid the whole pushing HH in the middle of a huge surgery thing. One of the others would have had him removed.
HH screaming at Ollie was in fairness what he needed but the attacking Fletch, adhesion whilst I get it was showing just how badly he was coping, it was a step too far.
The Jackie thing I thought was going for reveal from one of them that she liked Fletch but it just made poor lovely Fletch angry and in need of a cuddle and was just too much. He still has that leave sheet, no one actually knows she's gone on leave with no notice.

Essie walking out, well I guess in reality they couldn't stop her but her deciding she had to go as penance for killing the woman was a bit too convenient for her to leave

Holby seems to have a kind of 'transition' feeling about it - moving from some big storylines & characters to the next. But it's been going on for a while now - lots of departures but not so many new arrivals (reflecting the NHS maybe?!).

It's like they are giving lots of new writers a go too, but all of them writing their own episodes, linking them up only tenuously and then suddenly wrapping them up (presumably when a different writer takes over?) The style of the episodes are different, even the characters change weekly.

I have been watching Holby for YEARS, but I'm losing the will at the moment!

I watch Holby on catch up in the background while I work at home and normally I follow it pretty well. But I have NO idea what was going on and can't be bothered to watch it again. What was going on with the Chinese takeaway? Essie? Has Jac literally just wandered off for a month without telling anyone? Who knows what? Ollie could barely walk last week and now he's strolling around a day later?

And they have almost no staff left at all. It's got very silly indeed.

What was going on with the Chinese takeaway? the operation was 10 hours shoo they ordered in take out

Essie? the Gaskel woman died from post op infection so it was her or new doctors fault so she left.

Has Jac literally just wandered off for a month without telling anyone? She left a holiday form with Fletch. Its meant to be the night after the day not a week later I think but yeah no notice for 4 weeks off

Ollie could barely walk last week and now he's strolling around a day later? yep and discharged to go home with no support or help and never to be seen again

Yes, sorry, I knew it was the next day. But I'm still mystified about what exactly happened with the trial and why it's all post-operative rather than Gaskell being challenged on the implant? How much has he admitted?

The takeaway bit that puzzled me was why Ollie was shouting the menu through the window!

Because he's a dick

the super surgery, which just happened to be needed in the middle of the night.

I imagine it was done in the middle of the night to avoid tying up a theatre for 10 hours in peak time. It was kind of scheduled insofar as it was a possibility but they needed approval from The Board to go ahead - it was a game of smoke and mirrors and they are using it to detract from something else (gaskills failed trial?)

I don’t think he is a dick as such but the brain damage has affected his personality and moods.

He knew what he was doing. He knew he was pushing HH to breaking point. I think the brain damage has left his left inhibited and more erratic but I think he knew exactly what he was doing

It made me really want a Chinese and I'm not eating things like that right now! (Also it was 9.30am).

The episode made me feel sick, ask that stuff inside the woman

Ollie always was a dick - remember how he treated his own sister before she died, gaslighting her then stealing her exam paper and passing it off as his own. He will probably be back again anyway, he left last time to go to Malawi or wherever and came back again. Pleased to see the back of Essie too, she had run her course. It’s all very weird.

Am I the only one who watched that episode and came to the conclusion that Gaskell knows that the death was caused by the implant but he’s allowed Essie to believe that it was post-operative care (and thus her/new doc’s fault)?

Yes that’s what I thought happened too. He recorded that the stems were sub optimal quality but let everyone think that it could be their fault instead.

I thought that too.

Didn't he say 'and thus caused by the implant' into the dictaphone that Essie was listening to?

The whole episode was strange from start to finish.

The Ric thing has been a massive part recently and all we got was quiet mentions of it.

The ollie/hanssen thing was just ridiculous. And then Ollie who had been re-admitted the day before having had a fall at home walks out without a care in the world...

Just wasnt the holby I've come to know and love!

Guy Henry is such a good actor though. Years ago I saw him play King John at the RSC and it was a really striking performance.

And I’ve seen Hugh Quarshie playing Othello as well - I think Holby is where the RSC actors go for a few years of a regular wage