By order of the Peaky Fucking Blinders!

[MrsFring]

9.00 pm tonight, BBC 2.

Who's in?

Oh no he still gives me the willies. I was totally creeped out when they were kissing. Bleugh!!

I'd need to give him a good wash first but I'd totally do things to him. Open air, under a tree things.

Officer I text my dad that line last night Brilliant!

The polly and gold scene made me cringe, he looks like he would stink!

Alfie Solomon’s had all the best lines, “and add another £100 because you’re a ct”.

That was my favourite line as well. He was brilliant - Tom Hardy must love that role.

V good episode, love Hardy.

Loved Polly, really don't like Gold.

They were all rotten shots though. Must have fired off 100s of rounds & Tommy only hit 3. The Italians: "nul points".

I've just finished Godless on Netflix. Loads of shooting with guns much less developed - American West in the 1880s - & a far greater hit rate on both sides. My son walked through the room & asked "Bloody hell Mum, what are you watching?"

If I had to kill off Luca (and would happily do so for his acting) I'd poison him then cover his body with those sodding matchsticks he seems addicted to then set fire to him. A fitting end.

Lucas face when shooting was like a 10 year olds with a spud gun.

Absolutely love Johnny dogs character too.

Anyone else think the black colonel was a jarring note? Surely there were no high ranking black officers in the 1920s. To pretend that there were kind of belittles the shit that black people have had to put up with.

I did wonder at that too tinkly.

Tinkly - I think we are all expected to ignore colour in actors now. At least he wasn't in some low cast role like the maid in Howard's End.

Very good episode with some great one liners and that scene between Solomon and Changretta was just brilliant.

The BBC's attempts to shoehorn minority ethnic actors into period pieces is ridiculous. Make more dramas about interesting BME people by all means, that would be great. But sanitising the real life experiences of BME people in the U.K. in the past is offensive.

So shouldn't bme actors be given good roles in period dramas just because it's historically inaccurate? Surely the role should be colour blind otherwise there will always be a barrier to non white actors.

The BBC's attempts to shoehorn minority ethnic actors into period pieces is ridiculous.

But sometimes it reveals an ignorance on the viewers part ?

Any mid Roman-era drama (for example) should have lots of African faces ... generally Romans were colour blind.

Also, people from the middle east weren't unknown in Tudor times. Pretty high status, traders and diplomats.

And quite a few people are surprised to learn that the first non-white MP was elected in 1892.

Just out of curiosity, can anyone categorically confirm there was no colonel who may have matched that description in the British Army in 1925 ? Or is it a presumption ?

(All of that said, it's rather pointless questioning the historical accuracy of one part of PB. This last series has been more of a fairy tale)

The fact is that (such as in Howard's end) upper middle class women in the 19th century wouldn't have had black women at the dining table. There were a lot of black soldiers in WW1 but they were unlikely to attain officer/colonel status.
I'm not saying that BME actors should be excluded from dramas but it's wrong to place them in roles which by virtue of societal racism they would have been very unlikely to have occupied. It erases the struggles for parity in society imo.
I'd like to see more dramas about real experiences faced by BME people historically in the UK. Not dramas about white people played by black people.

Oh thank goodness! Adrien broody is like watching Bugsy Malone, that hat, that toothpick. In a programme that has pitched almost everything else perfectly he is such an awful cliche.

I like that May was in it simply to turn him down. The way all other women fawn over him gets in my nerves - especially Jessie Commie Eden.

I’ve oticed that Lizzie has to be sitting down in all scenes with Tommy so as not to belittle the lovely but tiny Cillian Murphy

Oh yes, the Polly/Gold scene has me cringing. He’s revolting. And she’s just pure nuts.

Didn't realise Tommy's height until I saw this pic on FB

I was actually curious enough to google the black colonel question. And the answer is that now, in 2017, there is one black brigadier in the British Army, and no other BME officers of a similar rank in any of the three services. There's no way there would have been one in the 1920s.

I know of Walter Tull who was a 2nd lieutenant but he died during ww1. Don't know of any higher rank.

I was thinking of Walter Tull too. And there were other mixed race officers at the time, because there was some dispute about whether Walter Tull was in fact the first black officer or whether it may have been one of them... Can’t remember names though, unfortunately- might have a Google! I didn’t find the Officer’s presence jarring especially as it was about him and Tommy having served in WW1 together.

I'm sure Tommy said he was a cavalry officer too ??

I’ve oticed that Lizzie has to be sitting down in all scenes with Tommy so as not to belittle the lovely but tiny Cillian Murphy grin

I hadn’t noticed this! What height is he?

Just googled. He is 5’9”. Exactly the same height as Tom Hardy. The perfect sandwich.