By order of the Peaky Fucking Blinders!

[MrsFring]

9.00 pm tonight, BBC 2.

Who's in?

She was Luca changrettas mother. Arthur killed her husband and I think her other son as well in the previous series.

How was luca's mother British then? Did Luca get sent to America to be raised?

I think she was actually Irish. But living in England? I can’t remember what the story was for why Changretta Sr and other brother were in England last series. I’m going off for a google.

I’ve had a brief google and can’t seem to find anything to explain why Luca was raised in New York, just that he was. Odd really when Angel Changretta wasn’t. Mrs C was John and Arthur’s teacher at school and they have always lived in Birmingham so Luca must have either been a bad egg sent off to receive som mafia style disipline as a child or he showed early promise as a tommy gun toting gangster so they sent him off to finishing school.

Finishing school for perfecting his dodgy Italian accent and stick chewing

oh that accent was just awful. I’m so disappointed in AB because I know I’ve seen him in other things and he was good.

I was so happy when the match mouth got killed. I have never hated a character so much just on the basis of his accent!

dodgy Italian accent

Which was a waste of time, as we were told - a bit too often that the Changrettas were from Sicily (in which case they wouldn't be speaking Italian anyway).

ABs accent seemed to come straight from the Marlon Brando (that well known Sicilian from Nebraska) playbook.

I love Cillian and Tom Hardy (shame he was shot) I was really pleased to see acid sniffing Arthur back from the dead. Cheered when Changretta got shot. Felt sad when it finished. I really hope they do another series.

Next series is to be release in 2019... such long wait but it has been confirmed so at least we know we have it to look forward to.

Adrian Brody's an oscar winner, just a pity he kept chewing on that toothpick. He was definitely doing his best Brando impression.

Adrian Brody's an oscar winner,

I think he phoned this one in ...

Yes I was very glad to see Arthur still alive. He is a brilliant character and I actually like the way Linda is being developed. If he had died I assume we would have lost her as her character development goes hand in hand with Arthur’s problems.

I thought that was a bit of an underwhelming series end, with lots of things thrown together at the end without really fitting.

Disappointed that they portrayed Jessie Eden as yet another woman who succumbed to Tommy's charms, when in fact the real woman was leading the general strike in Birmingham.

I liked this series and the final episode. It's a shame Tom Hardy has gone though as he was brilliant.
I think the Changretta's were escaping to America when the Dad was killed. I seem to remember they got him as they were boarding the boat but let the rest of the family go?

Agree that it was disappointing that jessie succumbed to tommy but I think he played her really well and gained her trust i think she geuinely believed he was supporting the cause. There's no way she could have thought there was a risk he was feeding information to the government. I assume we'll see more of her in the next series and i believe she'll be a force to be reckoned with if she finds out what tommy is up to.

Just wondering what people thought of polly deceiving michael in the plot to kill tommy. Was it just for her own personal game to see who Michael would pick her or tommy? Because it has now created a rift between tommy and Michael

Birmingham South disappeared as a parliamentary constituency in 1918.

I hate lazy, sloppy inaccuracies ... if you can't trust what you do know, how can you trust what you don't ?

I imagine all the gypsy stuff is a load of tosh too ....

That is an interesting question Dulra. I think it probably was about Michael showing his first loyalty is Polly. I think Polly knows she can't completely trust Tommy and therefore needs to know Michael has her back.

I think they probably used a constituency that didn’t exist at the time deliberately (rather than out of sloppiness) - surely it would’ve been more inaccurate/ misleading to use a real constituency where a real person was actually MP at the time they’re imagining Tommy was...?

Although in general I think the blending of real history and the fictional story is sometimes problematic - Jessie Eden being a good example of that.

Ohhhhhh ......

Series 1-3 for Christmas!

And now I understand. Am watching the end of Episode 1 of the first series - where there is the fake 'despatching' of poor Danny (?). So is fake death a repeated trope of the whole show or did they just save it up for Arthur at the end of S4?

Anyone still pining for the lovely John might want to check out Charlie Brooker's new Black Mirror.