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"PAULA", BBC2...new, dark thriller

331 replies

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 25/05/2017 19:00

Trailer: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0530xzt

Anyone else watching tonight?

(Ireland apparently gets Wednesday episodes instead.
No spoilers, please!).

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ktel1 · 09/06/2017 14:00

Well that was just ridiculous.

I enjoyed the first 2 episodes but the 3rd was a mess.

I don't mind a little ambiguity but nothing was explained.

It was frankly incoherent.

The writer threw together a lot of ideas but there was a lack of cohesion.

No one understands what happened.

The fact that the viewers need to spend so long trying to construct some meaning means that it failed.

MiaZadora · 09/06/2017 14:07

The guy with the dog in the bag, was that just random, he happened to be beaten up right outside her house and just happened to have a dog in his bag

TheSpottedZebra · 09/06/2017 14:09

Shoe that wasn't a poo, it was (a bit of?) a dead dog.

Not a sentence I thought I'd ever write.

LorLorr2 · 09/06/2017 14:16

buggerthebotox Your last Q is probably one of the only ones I have an idea for lol, James seemed jealous when Paula went to talk to the teacher guy in the first episode when he was trying to make another move on her mentioning ordering pizza etc but Paula was being short with him. So he asked what subject the teacher taught and was like 'yeah, good looking fellow, strong' looking annoyed. Guess he didn't want anyone else to be with her?

Clawdy · 09/06/2017 14:16

I believed James's version of events about his sister 's death. Pity it wasn't explained though. Hope they aren't thinking of a second series.

ktel1 · 09/06/2017 14:19

The appearance of the dog was felliniesque

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 09/06/2017 14:54

Or the trials and tribulations of trying to take a holiday when you've got to get home to change the bag on the feeding tube?

That house is pretty much unsellable now too. Nobody wants a sitting tenant, not least one in a box in your basement who needs looking after.

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 15:32

Clawdy,

"I believed James's version of events about his sister's death."

Not sure I can, because:
(a) I find it extremely unlikely that James would choose to relay such a traumatic childhood event to Mac, of all people. Someone who's seemingly the only other person Paula has feelings for, and someone he almost succeeded in killing.

At a real stretch, I suppose it could be argued that James was prepared to risk making his (unwitnessed by lawyer, off the record) statement in the hope that Mac would honour his (bonkers) promise to reunite Crystal and their kids elsewhere (and Morgan set up safely with hers).
However, I somehow don't think the welfare of his children is high priority, given he's subjected them to witnessing DV/ DA of their mothers.

and (b) Morgan....bit of an open book; doesn't seem capable of lying, even to save herself from Crystal's brutality once police had started asking awkward questions...stated, re Mary's disappearance, that James had "never meant it to happen", and that he wasn't really a bad person, for having done it.

Why would simply holding and comforting his little sister, whilst she died (his version of what happened after their father locked them under the stairs for a week) provoke that feeling?
Can easily believe an overburdened, caring, 9 yr old lad (essentially parent figure) could feel he'd failed her, or desperate guilt that couldn't prevent it (abusive, drunk father/ mother in hospital)...but doesn't quite chime with his wording.

UNLESS...(my latest theory!)...he felt overwhelmingly responsible for Mary's death because he'd caused the "mucking around", which angered his Father enough to lock them up in the first place.
What might that have been?
Something similar to Paula/ Callum's experimenting?

Or maybe James ended up having to 'mercy kill' his dying sister, to spare her suffering (another parallel with Paula/ Callum, if that's indeed what the hospital smothering was about?), and remorseful drunk, abusive Father discovered what looked like murder when he finally returned?

Oh, Conor McPherson, throw us a few clues...
(And you ruined my chances of sleeping soundly for the next week, damn you Grin).

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ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 16:00

Shoe,

"... in the end the malevolent force or presence is borne out of the protagonist's own existence iyswim."

Definitely something along those lines, I think: Paula's darkness was already beginning to affect poor old (relatively?) conventional Mac.
What with his imaginings/ dreams about seducing another vulnerable female tied up (ho hum) with the case.
He'd be much safer with his nice sidekick, Laurence.

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barrygetamoveonplease · 09/06/2017 16:23

Her house is in Belfast, the school is in Dublin
Grin

AceholeRimmer · 09/06/2017 17:33

I am so confused.

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 18:04

Who would ultimately triumph in a BBC Drama "Paula-Off"?

Paula (from Paula) vs Paula (from The Replacement )

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cushioncovers · 09/06/2017 18:05

Well I'm pissed off and confused 🤷‍♀️ can't make head nor tail of it.

Who burnt her brothers garage?

Why did she smother her brother?

Why did she put James in a box?

How did one of James wives still remain free even though the other one was tied up in her cupboard?

Who was the young man being attacked and why did he have a very well behaved dog in a bag?

Can't decide if the program it was too clever for me or just crap.

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 18:48

cushioncovers,

"...can't make head nor tail of it."

Join the club!

"Who burnt her brothers garage?"

Official line (IIRC) was possibly 'accidental' (Callum + drink/ drugs + wonky primus stove = disaster).
However, any forensic evidence was supposedly burnt.
We're therefore meant to assume was James, out of jealousy of Paula/ Callum's brotherly/ sisterly closeness.
(Though a slim chance Paula herself lost it and attempted to kill him out of sheer frustration?).

"Why did she smother her brother?"

See above: tiny chance she was finishing the failed garage attempt.
But I think it was a "mercy killing" to spare his suffering/ predicted zero quality of life.
(Horrendous scene Sad).

"Why did she put James in a box?"

Any one of 101 theories; pick whichever.

"How did one of James wives still remain free even though the other one was tied up in her cupboard?"

Crystal escaped prosecution because Morgan refused to press charges. Can't remember why. Probably just wanted to get away from the whole bloody lot of them, and keep her DD safe.
And (supposedly) Mac was going to throw the trial in exchange for James's statement about his sister Mary's disappearance.
(Despite Crystal acting as a violent loon, she was victim to repeated, severe DV/ DA from James, and desperate...not sure if that would have strengthened her case?).

"Who was the young man being attacked and why did he have a very well behaved dog in a bag?"

Nobody knows! (Including scriptwriter, probably?). Very poor plot device. See posts upthread. Poor dog.

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ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 18:51

^ At least Crystal's kids were safely with a fosterer...seem to recall she was allowed supervised contact?

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 09/06/2017 19:10

I think the controller of BBC1 needs to recruit a Head of Drama finales to review all dramas and make sure the last episode isn't a dud.

There's been too much of this recently and it's annoying.

AnarchyKitty · 09/06/2017 19:17

So, just caught up with the last episode. What the actual fuck?

AnarchyKitty · 09/06/2017 19:20

After The Replacement and this, I'll never trust anyone called Paula ever! Grin

MarciaBlaine · 09/06/2017 19:26

I like to think I'm quite intelligent, but had no fucking clue what was going on at the end. Couldn't understand anyone's motivation. I thought at the beginning of episode 3 that Paula must have killed everyone. James in the box freaked me out big time!

cushioncovers · 09/06/2017 19:56

Thanks Thalia

I actually think Paula and James seemed quite well suited.

ScrumpyBetty · 09/06/2017 21:09

Oh my word. Just watched episode 3. Very dark. My head is boggled and I feel slightly sick!

ThaliaLuxurySpa · 09/06/2017 21:09

MovingOnUp,

"That house is pretty much unsellable now too. Nobody wants a sitting tenant, not least one in a box in your basement who needs looking after."

Grin Grin

Estate Agent would no doubt market it:

Unique, self-contained dwelling (situated within basement conversion)

  • Compact, yet deceptively spacious
  • Recently undergone sleek modernisation
  • Minimalist, yet retaining important character features
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MarciaBlaine · 09/06/2017 22:26

The more I think about James in the box, being kept alive on purpose, the more freaked I am. It's the WORST POSSIBLE THING.

barrygetamoveonplease · 09/06/2017 22:49

She said she'd keep him alive. I saw the tube to his nose for oxygen. I heard her comment about waste. How long can he last without food and water? Or was there a way to provide for that? Otherwise, he's a former tenant in a matter of days.

Who burnt her brothers garage
James, the 'fast acting Rat Killer'. The brother was the rat.

Why did she smother her brother
She never liked him, her parents were unreasonably fond of him, he needed to die because his injuries were so severe, she liked the idea of killing.

Why did she put James in a box
Punishment for killing her former lover and burning her brother, for scaring her. Acting out her fantasies - she wanted to be imprisoned and wasn't bothered if she would be rescued. Control of the situation - with James on the loose she didn't know what would happen to the people around her.

How did one of James wives still remain free even though the other one was tied up in her cupboard
Morgan didn't press charges (she knew James was a killer so was probably afraid to) so Crystal remained free.

Who was the young man being attacked and why did he have a very well behaved dog in a bag
No idea. Missed that bit.

Can't decide if the program it was too clever for me or just crap
Not really clever. Just the product of a warped mind, I suspect!