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Line Of Duty Series 4. We Arnott Amused!

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FeralBeryl · 15/04/2017 10:31

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ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 14:01

Haha Feral beans is back at work but now avoiding it bymulling over your theory...

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 14:03

Ifield took a glass from the café with Hana's fingerprint on it. Being as he was then killed, nothing has come of it. I had no idea at the time why he did this and still don't.

But it will matter...

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 14:14

Nothing's been said about Ifield's private evidence room in his flat, especially the yellow post it note that said EVIDENCE PLANTED Hmm

EmilyDickinson · 19/04/2017 14:18

Tim burnt one of his hands quite badly in the hot frying pan on the stove just before he shoved Roz. So one of his hands was burnt and probably had oil on it if that helps with the contamination of Roz's wound hypothesis? I don't think that there was anything other than hot oil in the pan though as Tim hadn't started cooking properly.

As far as the infection goes Roz clearly needs some heavy duty antibiotics. Now that she's finally gone to the doctor she'll have been prescribed a broad spectrum antibiotic to have the best chance of tackling whatever infection she has. The doctor won't know whether the antibiotic was the right one until the swab comes back from the lab. For dramatic purposes I'm guessing the broad spectrum / best guess antibiotic won't be effective against the specific bacteria infecting Roz's wound, so she'll continue to get sicker. I wonder if there's any way that the type bacteria infecting the wound can incriminate her? She probably didn't cover the wound whilst she was in Tim's flat.

SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 14:24

I'm still confused as to how Hana made such a remarkable recovery after her ordeal and at what stage she met up and got involved with Ifield after his visit to the cafe?

I'm confused about the cafe/Tim being at Hana's flat timeline too. As far as I can work out, she must have known/slept with him (assuming from the DNA in her bed that she has) BEFORE her abduction, no? But they didn't seem to recognise each other in the cafe...

ElspethFlashman · 19/04/2017 14:48

I think that Steve mentioned the burn and said it was probably a cooking burn, so it wasn't on the bit that was chopped off.

LOL at the idea of Tim sticking his finger up his bum before scratching Roz! Grin Stone Cold!

hoddtastic · 19/04/2017 14:58

i think roz had time to 'take the room down' I don't know if she killed Ifield (alone) but I think she'd have taken his room of 'evidence' against her for sure, she was gone all night don't forget?

tribpot · 19/04/2017 15:24

Tim's evidence room was mostly still there when his body was discovered - it looked as if at one point Ros was going to try and pocket something crucial before it was discovered (too similar to last series, though) but then was distracted by her blood stain on the kitchen counter. The forensic team have thus had access to all of his research ever since, but no-one has mentioned it at all. Possibly that was the point of discrediting him - to show that if he was collecting all this information it was in order to throw suspicions away from himself.

The two murdered women (the other being Jaswinder Kaur?) are mentioned as having worked as prostitutes but Ros won't allow them to be described as 'the prostitutes', I think because it dehumanises them/makes an excuse for their killer.

The body that was found at the start of episode 2 had been dead for a while so I don't think Michael Farmer is ruled out. I'm beginning to feel like a rewatch to try and get dates/times and key facts sorted out.

DubiousCredentials · 19/04/2017 15:36

I can't get over the fact that Ifield didn't check that Roz was actually dead before he left the flat to get the butchering equipment. Seems unlikely as he was obviously a very fastidious person.

ktel1 · 19/04/2017 16:24

I think that current events are tied into the underground criminal network that has been running throughout the whole series.

How it all fits together I don't know- this series is very complex.

I was reading some information elsewhere where it's been recommended that we refer back to what happened in series 3 and the names of the criminals that were mentioned .

They apparently are related to some of the characters we see now.

I think Roz's career break is a key element as well.

Apparently she was away for 5 years. I don't think this had anything to do with bringing up her kids.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 16:27

You did see Ifield check for pulse and it was after that he went out shopping.

You also saw the wall of evidence when Roz entered the flat in her forensic gear, that's when the camera followed her eyes and the post it note was shown.

Going back to that night, events certainly took a dramatic leap when Ifield decided to go out to the DIY store and purchase the means to dispose of Roz's corpse.
I think someone else must've been in his flat with Roz before he returned. I can't see how she'd be able to rescue herself from being flat on her back, with him and a working electric saw straddling her, even though she'd have the element of surprise in her favour. That would mean she had assistance and help with the cleaning up. We know she was actively involved because she has Ifield's forensic suit and some bloody artefacts, plus his lap top and at least one phone of his.

It means that she and her accomplice kept hidden and playing dead while Ifield suited up and prepared the scene. How though did he get the sheeting under her if she was trying to deceive him that she was dead, he'd know then wouldn't he. Or, was she actually still out cold and didn't know what he was doing?

I think she got her wrist wound from the saw rather than Ifield's finger nails. I don't think she cut his fingers off for computer access either, I don't think that would work.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 16:48

@ktel1 yes, I agree.
There's an article on Den of Geek that says the clues are there and go back through to series 1. I haven't posted a link incase someone inadvertently encounters spoilers, but it's easily found for anyone who wants to look it up.

Roz's career break was definitely five years and not necessarily allied to maternity leave, just time out 'being there for her children' according to the author. But that could easily be a cover story.

I think Hilton's going to be brought down.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 16:50

I think we do also need to remember though that Mercurio was under instructions not to alienate new BBC1 audiences. The reference to Denton was obviously a nod towards previous series, that said.

Does Den of Geek know what happens, or are they just guessing themselves??

hoddtastic · 19/04/2017 16:57

ok, i think hana was at flat, she killed him.

Hana was at the flat. She was hiding when Tandie Newton rocked up. Witnessed what was going on, she did kill him (with//for Roz) then Roz sent the text to 'clear' her. And then planted the DNA (hence Hana's confusion) Roz will try and get Hana off the murder charge. But will collapse with gangrene and shit first.

It all hails back to the list, that the Caddy (i think it was?) burned.
Who else was on that list? I am going for the ACC. Thandies husband. Ifield- and I think that's how he knows Michael Farmer, who has (I think) been in care...

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 17:05

Den of Geek's article says it contains spoilers and rampant speculation.

I haven't seen the previous series, although I have read bits and pieces since starting to watch this one.

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 17:07

Sorry, I should clarify that, I think the spoilers would be for people who hadn't seen previous series, or episode four of this, they're not from forthcoming episodes.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 17:19

Lots of people have managed to find the list form last series in various screen shots and none of the names is on there, apparently...

There is some excitement on line that Michael Framer's address is in an area that was of some significance in series 1 but I really think that's just Mercurio treating his fictional town as a real place with crime hotspots.

There'll be lots of disgruntled 'new generation' LOD viewers if the conclusion to this hangs on anything more than very superficial knowledge of series 1 -3.

ktel1 · 19/04/2017 17:21

I saw some key information in a post on The Guardian LOD comments section. . It relates to a connection with characters from season 3.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 17:23

I got quite addicted to DoG and The Guardian last series ... and they are often the same posters. DoG were wrong in almost every way about what would be the outcome of series 3...

listen to me instead

beargrass · 19/04/2017 17:24

This list? As PP says, not sure it's right but it's a v good theory!

Isn't there just one more series? I'm sure AC-12 will end this series practically shut down but rise like Phoenix for the grand finale

Line Of Duty Series 4. We Arnott Amused!
EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 17:24

I've seen two names mentioned from previous series, not Buckells, but other characters who I'd assumed were new to this series.

Not being coy but don't want to say more than I should.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 17:27

Ah now, as Ted would say, I've just read it. They agree with me.

It's Hilton I tell you; it's all Hilton! Crazed laugh.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 19/04/2017 17:28

I can't see that list!!

OutToGetYou · 19/04/2017 17:29

Tim was in the middle of cooking though......had he been cutting raw meat or fish?

SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 17:34

He'd only just started and was just heating the oil, wasn't he?

Oh God, I want it to be Sunday! I can't wait.

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