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Line Of Duty Series 4. We Arnott Amused!

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FeralBeryl · 15/04/2017 10:31

New thread as we're getting close to full.

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tribpot · 19/04/2017 10:29

I would think some of Tim's saliva would help increase the chances of an infection? I would imagine it was this study that gave them the idea.

SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 10:56

Why would it have saliva in it?

beargrass, so do you mean that, no matter how clean the flat she got the wound in, general day-to-day life would cause it to get dirt/germs in and therefore get infected? But if that's the case, why do we often get scratches/cuts etc and they DON'T suppurate? Is it just luck?

tribpot · 19/04/2017 11:00

Because we think Tim was deliberately trying to leave trace evidence of himself in a struggle. That's why his fingers are gone, because her flesh is under the nails. He could have deliberately transferred saliva as well to leave a DNA sample.

ElspethFlashman · 19/04/2017 11:03

Surely the doctor would have given her antibiotics with a wound that manky?

It definitely seems like she's heading for a big swooning dead away scene though.

I'm presuming that the file Maneet handed over was AC12s entire file on the investigation. I'm guessing Boss Bloke just wants to check it to make sure he hasn't made a monumental cock up in following Roz's lead. Paranoia.

Hopefully if he reads it, he'll start to get worried.

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/04/2017 11:09

Yes the wound thing seems a bit odd. There's going to be the big reveal as to how she got it (obviously) but how on earth did it get to that stage?

I've been bitten by a dogs and scratched and bitten by cats and none of the wounds have ended up looking like hers Confused

As others have already said, Tim doesn't strike me as someone who would have really long, dirty fingernails.

SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 11:11

Surely the doctor would have given her antibiotics with a wound that manky

I thought she did. Confused

I clearly need to pay more attention. Grin

I'm guessing Boss Bloke just wants to check it to make sure he hasn't made a monumental cock up in following Roz's lead.

I thought he wanted it so he could continue to feed Roz info like the supposed sexism in AC-12 and Ted's suspected Masons' membership?

tribpot · 19/04/2017 11:16

She did give her anti-biotics, but Ros has been avoiding treatment for weeks (? is it weeks since Tim died? ) - the doctor asked her why she hadn't sought treatment sooner. Answer: cos I got this in a struggle with a bloke who ended up dead so I chopped his fingers off and put them in my garage. Obviously! I then used said fingers to frame him for other crimes.

bottomhangingout · 19/04/2017 11:19

I know someone who got bitten by a cat and nearly lost his finger. He now has nerve damage. I think that more often than not cuts etc heal up ok, but things can go wrong. And given that she self-treated her wound and delayed seeing a doc it's more likely to develop into something nasty. Not to mention being useful for the plot...

tribpot · 19/04/2017 11:27

Yes - it could also be pointing to Ros having a compromised immune system, but as we know, humans in LoDland don't work like humans in our world, so perhaps they are nearly impervious to being dropped down three flights of stairs on their head, but much more susceptible to infections?!

Whywaitfortomorrow · 19/04/2017 11:30

Tripbot Grin

pepperpot99 · 19/04/2017 11:36

I still think that Tim was killed by someone else - I am willing to put money on it. It just seems too obvious that Roz did it, plus I can't see how she could have with her head wound and so on. I'm convinced a 3rd party did it although I can't for the life of me work out how, who or why. Confused
Her arm wound could be the result of a cut from the saw ifield was wielding?

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/04/2017 11:41

I know someone who got bitten by a cat and nearly lost his finger

Cat teeth are notorious for being little injections of poison straight into the flesh. Short, clean human fingernails not so much. Unless Tim keeps bacteria under his fingernails for just this sort of occasion, who knows? Confused

TheHiphopopotamus · 19/04/2017 11:42

trib Grin haha!

Whywaitfortomorrow · 19/04/2017 11:49

Against above advice, I just googled 'suppurating wound' Shock

Whywaitfortomorrow · 19/04/2017 12:08

I love how the ability to clean is being used to build case against Hana.
During interview Roz said "She knows how to clean" or something similar with such a menacing tone, but I couldn't help thinking wish my cleaning was that lethal, would save many an argument about state of the house.
The name's Bang, Cillit Bang Grin

seedsofchange · 19/04/2017 12:12

It can just depend how lucky or unlucky you are with a wound. But nail scratch wounds do usually need treatment to avoid going sceptic. And left untreated a wound like that would eventually seriously affect her ability to function. Not just due to the physical injury but also due to feeling bloody awful as the infection took hold. I know how ill she must feel from a similar sort of smallish injury I got, that I ignored, and then ended up in hospital for a long time. (Btw, I didn't kill and then chop any ones fingers off!)
Roz is going to keel over very soon I predict. Next episode.

SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 12:29

Roz is going to keel over very soon I predict. Next episode.

I think so too. Nothing else seems to stop her or catch her out; something's got to give, surely? Grin

seedsofchange · 19/04/2017 12:34

Will she crack during the next interview with AC12_in the glass box? (There has yo be at least one more of those, surely?)
I do hope so, she's too ice cold killer/domestic abuser super woman for my taste :)

DubiousCredentials · 19/04/2017 12:45

Maybe Ifield stuck his finger up his bum before he scratched her for maximum damage. Having licked said finger beforehand for necessary DNA info, obvz.

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FeralBeryl · 19/04/2017 12:49

Just for another random theory - cos I can!
How about Hana was the one that came round and saved Roz from the dismembering by whacking Tim over the head and helped Roz clean up? That why the cleaning comment at interview was so pointed.
Maybe she and Roz had agreed to keep it quiet for some reason and either Roz has welched on the deal and charged her, or she knows it's a temporary thing and she's going to end up being released.
Is it to keep Hana safe in custody while the (as yet uninvented) higher conspiracy/people traffickers look for her?
Where's Beans when I need her? She tolerates my unauthorised witterings Grin

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SapphireStrange · 19/04/2017 13:01

I like that theory, Feral. Hana is obviously involved somehow, and I'll be a bit annoyed if it is only in the sense of her having slept with Tim for money.

I do think that either someone else helped Roz kill Tim, or Roz didn't have a hand in killing him at all. I just don't know who it was/why/how come Roz was still out all night if she didn't do it.

tribpot · 19/04/2017 13:07

I do think there's some kind of conspiracy between Ros and Hana. Ros sent Hana a text after Tim was already dead, possibly to create a false trail?

Could it go further back and Ros was using Hana to bait the real Balaclava Man? (Remember him? I know he barely seems to have featured due to all the copy cats, unless Baseball Bat Balaclava Man is the real one). Seems a bit unlikely, though - Hana was snatched moments after leaving her friends, unless that whole scene was staged.

I'm ignoring the Tim's bum comment Grin

OutToGetYou · 19/04/2017 13:14

The whole Hana thing was staged to set up Farmer, for no reason other than he was vulnerable and had 'previous', and for her to get a 'win'.

Ifield = problem. Tries to sort problem, backfires. Other problem = real killer still out there, may strike again. Unless, she knows who it is......her husband!

beargrass · 19/04/2017 13:17

I just thought - since she can't really clean it or look after it without it being obvious (and only recently got it seen to), that with it being under a jumper all the time and cleaned by her, that would increase the chances of it going manky.

Agree that Tim's hands would've ridiculously clean. Like a brand new pair out of the bag kind of clean

EnriqueTheRingBearingLizard · 19/04/2017 13:58

The whole Hana thing was staged to set up Farmer, for no reason other than he was vulnerable and had 'previous', and for her to get a 'win'

Remind me, right back at the beginning the Police, including Roz and Ifield were investigating the disappearance and murder of two women, one of those being Leonie Collersdale and the other unnamed. The two women worked as prostitutes?

Then on the way home from a night out, waitress Hana is violently knocked down, abducted and then secured in a house, from where she's dramatically rescued just in the nick off time from a serious explosion. This house is where Michael Farmer lives. It's found to contain 'trophies' from the murder victims and Farmer is arrested and later charged.

But surely Farmer wasn't on the Police radar until Hana was found at his house? Do you mean it was fitted up to convict him after the event, rather than staged to set him up, as in, all planned in advance?

His previous conviction was for harrassment or assault wasn't it and seemed from what the victim and he himself, said, to have been relatively minor in the scheme of things. Now there's another victim's body found dismembered Sad and Farmer was in custody when that murder occured. I think that's right, there's a lot to follow and remember.

I've forgotten now how the Police were lead to Farmer's house and the stuff about his hospital alibi and car being at his Nan's Nursing Home. I haven't got all that straight in my mind. I should watch it again really.

I'm still confused as to how Hana made such a remarkable recovery after her ordeal and at what stage she met up and got involved with Ifield after his visit to the cafe?