Doctor who

[Funnyfarmer]

Anyone eles exited for serise 10?

And no-one has the 'right' to be sexist any more than they do to be racist. And if it occurs, other people have every right to pull them up on it.

What would be wrong with 'Jane Bond' then Samcro?

I'd quite like a non-white doctor, I think we're overdue for that.

ffs, the doctor has aways been male. changing it will change the dynamic of the show, I would rather it was a man (and yes to a non white one) I am entitled to post an opinion.

But your opinion is sexist.

Can't we just agree to disagree about the male/female doctor? All this hostility is making me feel uncomfortable

"But your opinion is sexist."
or is yours as you want me to say I want a woman~?

back to the thread, I was disappointed with the end.
I wanted the doctor to take bill back to the bottom of the ship and reverse it all....

It's a discussion site funny - this is what we do on MN. and there's no hostility from my side, just a desire to call out discrimination where I see it.

I don't particularly want the next Doctor to be female. For me I have always pictured the character as being quintessentially male. He is always an awkward, intellectual but somehow definitively and distinctly masculine. I think it would be a huge alteration of the character to make him female. Missy was brilliant but very different to the master. I do not know of another female actress who could pull it off.
However I do love River Song!

No Samcro there nothing sexist about my saying that a man or a woman could do this (entertaining but not hugely challenging) role.

Oh blimey! user^randomsetofnumbers you are coming across as quite horrible. Soupy is allowed to express her opinion just as you are but it doesn't need to descend into personal attacks does it?

Why don't you stop hijacking this thread which has up to now been a lovely and interesting one which has been good fun and start another thread asking for a debate on whether Dr Who would be good as a woman? That way those up for some robust debate can join you and we can all just calm down a bit.

Just leave it user.

I don't know about Richard Ayoade (though I love him!) but Rahul Kohli would be brilliant at it (and probably likes doctor who)

Richard Ayoade I like him, but I can't take him seriously since the IT crowd

usernumbers I'm a gender-critical feminist who mainly posts in FWR nowadays, and I'd be all up for a woman Doctor if it was the right person. But stop having a go at Soupy. It's not on.

I am undecided about whether or not a female doctor would work; I think it entirely depends on who would be cast to play her. However, to RV l anyone saying that a female doctor would be 'ticking a PC box', I would like to quote Gene Demby, who tweeted the following:

"'They shouldn't make The Doctor a woman or POC to make some political point!' Whiteness is not neutral. Maleness is not neutral. Thirteen white dudes in a row playing a character meant to regenerate with a totally new identity every few years...is a political stance.'

But back on topic - I seem to be in a minority with my opinion that Bill's ending seemed too convenient and hand wavy. Steven Moffat does seem to have a problem with just letting people die. I love, love, love Bill, and wish she was sticking around, but I think the most satisfying dramatic resolution would have been for her to unequivocally die. I'm cold like that

empress how am I having a go at Soupy? She came on here spouting sexist opinions and I was brave enough to challenge them. Nothing personal about it. Sounds like people are defending her right to bigotry because she's 'a name'. Well I won't be bullied into cow towing to 'famous' and posters who say offensive things, any more than I would anyone else.

Where exactly have I been 'horrible' rat? Sounds like you're just jumping on the band-wagon. And no I won't leave it. It matters. It's relevant to the rest of the thread.

She came on here spouting sexist opinions and I was brave enough to challenge them

Oh, do us a favour and get over yourself. There's nothing 'brave' about insulting someone over the Internet because they dare to have a different opinion to you. You're not even brave enough to have a proper username.

Where have I insulted anyone?!

You're the one doing the insulting hipho- what's my username got to do with it?

So it's fine to insult half the human race by saying they're in a pan, in some unspecified way, of doing a 'man's job' but it's rude to point out that's sexist?

incapable of doing 'a man' s job'...

I'm bored now. This was a nice, interesting thread and instead of posting your opinion in a reasoned, grown up manner you chose to insult and bully another poster. I very much doubt that you've won anyone over to your point of view with your argument, but who knows?

I'm off too, so enjoy the rest of the thread.

She came on here spouting sexist opinions and I was brave enough to challenge them.

I challenge sexist opinions regularly on Facebook with my name & face visible. Including defending the highly controversial concept of women having vaginas. Do you do that too?

Debating opinions is one thing but when you start calling a poster blinkered, bigoted etc you're attacking them, not their views. There's a difference.

As Justine once said, it's fine to say "Your post makes you sound like an arse and here's why". It's not fine to say "You're an arse."

I don't accept that I've insulted anyone.

And the comment I was challenging contravenes the guidelines you describe, because it says clearly that all women - every single last one- are incapable of filling an acting role traditionally given to a man, not for any particular reason, (and I asked for reasons and was told over and over again that none were needed) but simply because they are women. Now THAT is insulting.

hipho you have a very rosy way of painting things. When I joined the thread it was all thinly veiled Homophobic comments about Bill and ingrained unchallenged sexual. Well I'm glad to have upset that particularly rotten apple cart, and you know what? I'd do it again in a heartbeat, I tells ya