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southeastdweller · 05/01/2017 22:17

Anyone else watch the start of the second series tonight?

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Wadingthroughsoup · 11/02/2017 18:39

Yes, I'd forgotten that Colin's abuser had already been in prison too.

noradurst · 13/02/2017 03:09

Graphista - I found that

I really liked the ending and I was SO relieved that Cassie decided not to report what she had discovered, Sunny backed her up, and Saira's husband supported her in the end. I also found it SO cathartic to see Marion's smug sister completely turn on her mother and SCREAM at her.

However, I had a few problems with the story and wonder if there's something I'm missing.

So they already knew that Colin had been in a specific psychiatric hospital. However, in spite of the fact they accessed Saira's medical records to know that David Walker had assaulted her while she was working as a prostitute, it wasn't recorded anywhere in there that she had been there, too? Nobody during the incredibly long search for what might've connected the three remembered the name of a psychiatric hospital on Saira's record? Or do they not keep a note of name(s) and that stuff?

That's my only real plot problem, but I did feel like too much time was probably spent on red herrings, like Colin's rape of Maria. Brilliantly acted though Colin's reaction to her false accusation was, I felt they could've/should've developed that plot thread more as they were going to reveal he was also a victim of sexual abuse.

I was also convinced that Marion's father was David's abuser. I also went through periods where I briefly suspected Marion's mother of being David's abuser or abusing Marion.

It annoyed me, tbh, that they didn't allude to her father's manner of death (unless I missed something) until Cassie and Sunny needed to know it. I thought the three actors they had play the killers (Colin, Saira, and Marion) were damn great so I would've liked it if they'd had more development. They seemed to "waste" a lot of time on the red herring subplots (like Flo's stepfather and Zoe) and while I know they were important, it made me feel a bit :/ about some of the other aspects.

Like the whole Colin, a gay man, is raped as a child by a man and accused of rape by a woman thing, and Marion's bisexuality/affair with the IRA woman. Not to mention the sort of brief-pursuit-of-->complete-abandonment-of David Walker's abuser. I know Walker was an irredeemable piece of scum (they made that point often enough), but did it not matter to Cassie or Sunny who had abused him? Why was that idea never really pursued if it all boiled down to abuse? Idk, I felt like they sort of threw that idea out at the audience then ditched it.

Still, despite my essay here - Blush - I enjoyed the whole series and was nearly crying at Marion and Colin's monologues about their abuse. Strong stuff.

noradurst · 13/02/2017 03:12

Oooh, sorry, Graphista, I meant to say I found that part interesting and undeveloped. That's definitely something I would've liked to see developed. As horrific as their experiences all were (undoubtedly), it seemed a bit...easy that they were all down with murder? Like who suggested the Strangers on a Train plot? Was Cassie's line meant to suggest the possibility that Colin wanted his abuser dead more than the others so manipulated them into it a bit more? Or not?

picklemepopcorn · 13/02/2017 07:24

I thought David Walker's abuser was dead?

Re Colin's abuser's colleague distancing himself from it, my son has heard his mates 'lightheartedly' tease a friend about his dad being a paedo because he volunteers for a youth group. Just to be clear, they are not actually disclosing abuse, they are using it as a way of teasing their mate. They actually all get on, but think it's funny to talk about the bloke like that. If you are a man doing voluntary work with children that suspicion can feel like it's everywhere. So I can see why the guy would be sick of the association.

Absolutely devastating acting from the three survivors. And Marion's sister's little scene where she rages at Wendy Craig. I quite like not knowing all the loose ends because real life is like that.

hackmum · 13/02/2017 12:42

"I thought David Walker's abuser was dead?"

I don't think they said that anywhere, did they? I'm not sure. An early line of inquiry was that Walker might have confronted his abuser and then have been killed by him, but that wasn't pursued.

Niggles aside, I thought the final episode was superb. It completely transcended the limitations of the genre and became a moving account of the profound impact of sexual abuse on victims and their families. Colin's speech was brilliantly done. All the actors were first-class - I loved the way that Badria Timimi (who played Sara) looked as if she was constantly holding in her pain.

picklemepopcorn · 13/02/2017 13:30

She was stunning. Her self possession, containment. All three were stunning.

southeastdweller · 13/02/2017 22:45

I appreciate that the main theme of the series was how childhood abuse shapes the lives of the survivors and those close to them and don't mind some unanswered questions but did feel there were a few loose ends that needed tidying up and so the episode felt rushed. Like a few others here, I didn't find the reveal especially convincing, but not because of practical considerations, but because I struggled to believe in the bond with the three killers. And I'd have loved a longer scene with Elise and her mum where she asks her mum if it's true about her and Marion's dad abusing Marion.

Someone on the Guardian website suggested that the writer had written more than what was shown but was ordered by ITV to cut it down to the standard six episodes and that seems likely.

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colouringinagain · 14/02/2017 22:35

Finally seen the finale.

So very, very powerful and deeply sad.

And huge Flowers to posters who have personal experience of this awful trauma.

I thought the acting across the board was excellent, but particularly outstanding from the three abuse survivors. As other's have said Colin's monologue had me in tears and I found Marion's very convincing, just that catch of breath when talking about her anger.....

Imo it was very effective at describing the tragic lifelong impact of child abuse. Who cares about loose ends.

CalmItKermitt · 15/02/2017 13:12

I'd recorded all these, got home last night from visiting a friend, thought "I'll just watch the first episode before I go to bed...."

Got to bed at 3am 😏

Totally mesmerised. Incredible acting. Love Nicola Walker SO much. First noticed her in Being Human. Fantastic. Hope there'll be another series!

Olympiathequeen · 21/02/2017 21:51

I finally got round to watching this series and found it stunning. Didn't mind all the red herrings as it added to the rich tapestry of interwoven themes.

All the actors were superb especially the victims and I just cried at Colin's speech and was so relieved when Cassie didn't persue them any further.

Just loved Cassie's dads final scene and reading the letter from his dead wife.

Re David walkers abuser. I don't think they could track him down, either around the time of davids death or in the present time because they had no real clues. He would have been 85-90 anyway and it wouldn't have moved the murder enquiry along anyway. Possible victim/murderer dead.

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