THE MISSING IS BACK - part 4

[MrsderPunkt]

As part 3 is full.

I'm having a day off due to illness, so am planning a re-watch from the beginning as have got used to the time switches that confused me at first. Quite looking forward to it - will pay extra attention to all things yellow, legs in fireplaces and anything else that you suggest. Probably cover my eyes at the drilla moment again though!

hesterton, why do you think Lucy is Alice's child? I remember Alice saying that her daughter died, but I wondered whether there was anything else that I'd missed.

I read a great article with the brothers last night (who wrote it) on the daily mail sadly, but it was very good. They explained there would be a proper ending, as the first series was about someone missing and this one about someone found. And they had listened to feedback from series one. They also said they won't tie up every lose end, but go on to explain eve's pregnancy and Matthews relationship with the twins, most of which was cut from the script. Don't like linking to the DM, but its very good, and gives nothing away about tonight.

Yes Shrop several people did quite early on (before we, the viewers, really had any idea that he was the 'perp'). It was mainly because he's a reasonably well-known actor and his initial role seemed too small for such a thesp.

Oh no, Sophie said that. It's all so confusing.

When I re-watched it last week while ailing on the sofa, the scenes he was in were so different knowing he was the baddie and recalling how different they seemed when I'd no idea.

Most striking was right at the start in the hospital when Gettrick standing near the door asks about the language/accent and she looks at him for just a second too long before saying "He had a German accent."
Her family were there, the brig I think, police (was a woman anyway) and now thinking about it, there really was no reason why the press liaison officer should ask that pretty vital question.

Also all the scenes with Sophie knowing that she really was Sophie and not just speculating. You look at them through different eyes.

What we need is a transcript website, like there is for The West Wing.

Transcripts are on the BBC website

www.bbc.co.uk/writersroom/scripts/the-missing

but only up to ep.3 at the mo

shrop forgive me blowing my own trumpet but it was me, me, meeeeeeeeeeeee who first started banging about Gettrick on thread 2 (because Derek Riddell is well known and he'd barely been in it up til that point). I also posted a photo of him for ID purposes.

Thanks Lizard. That's half my morning gone

Just coming on to say it was MargotlovesTom - I remember asking who was left to continue the cover up when the Brig was removed from office and she straightaway offered Drilla!

Crosspost - was scrolling back to verify. Could have saved myself the effort!

Don't thank me, fiderer because it was another poster who linked it earlier on - I think on the previous thread.

To everyone who doesn't understand why Sophie doesn't try to escape/ask for help you need to understand the effects of the psychological phenomena Stockholm Syndrome. Intermittent cruel and kind treatment in a regime of fear causes trauma bonding in the victim. This is why it's also hard for victims of domestic abuse to leave. One of the many reasons. It is human nature to believe good over bad. The brain can not handle two conflicting realities so victims often see the 'good' as the real person and try to rationalise the bad. If you consider that and combine it with the terribly undermining and damaging effects of the gaslighting behaviour from the perpetrator/abuser/captor, it all makes total psychological sense. Any person subjected to those elements would react in the same way as Sophie. The man she is so afraid of (which she is undoubtedly) is also the person she relies on for everything, the person who 'takes care' of her, who shows her the only 'kindness' she has known in years. She is therefore traumatically bonded to him.

improving my theory on the "my baby died" conversation is that the story of the rollercoaster was told by Sophie while she was pretending to be Alice so it could be the truth for either of them but I think it was a rare glimpse of the real Sophie, however she then realised that the plan to fake har death so people stopped looking for her would be totally undermined by the Webster's thinking they had a grandchild alive and well out there somewhere. It would infact kick off a whole new intense search. So I think the rollercoaster story was true but then she added a hasty lie that the baby died.

So looking forward to tonight. There is so much that needs to be sorted:

• who was in the shed and why did dna point to Sam?
• Why was Alice and Sophie taken where have they been for the past how many years?
• who is Lucy's mum?
• Is Sophie really groomed or just buying her time to escape with Lucy and possibly Alice too?
• Who killed Henry Reed and why
• Why did Sophie put flowers on his grave?
• How did Sophie escape from shed before fire and plant body?
• Was stone involved in any way?
• was Eve involved in any way?
• was Sam involved?
• Will Baptiste survive?
• Is there more to Driller that we haven't seen yet? more girls? more crime? more deaths?

So many loose ends, will we be satisfied at 10pm? I really hope so

Grumblebumble I agree with your theory on "baby died" Lucy is the baby she is referring to. I think the slip ups she makes - giving wrong name initially, roller-coaster story, talking lovingly about baby just shows she is human and makes mistakes and not as calculating as we are meant to believe.

That's just it for me too, hesterton - I want a happy ever after for Gemma, Alice and Lucy together!

Can't remember the last time I woke up so looking forward to a TV programme

I think the way gemma said she always wanted another baby means she could end up raising Lucy? Maybe Lucy is Alice's and sophies baby did die and Sophie wants rid of alice so she can keep Lucy as her own, possibly!

Fiderer I'm 99% sure it wasn't drilla in that hospital scene.

I think someone mentioned it before about Sophie saying about moving to Switzerland just the three of them, meaning she wanted rid of alice? I think one of them will die tonight.

I think when alice comes home she is going to need a lot of love and care and undivided attention from her mum, she will need to be a 'child' for a while so i hope lucy is sophie's.

Just checking in ahead of tonight.

I can't wait to see how Sophie ended up as the favourite. Maybe because she backchatted as fake alice said about fake Sophie.

Real alice that is.