Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

SCD#4

993 replies

MoonriseKingdom · 15/10/2016 19:46

New thread, boring title

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:08

2012 radio times: coup!es get 3 songs per dance to choose from
2012 Brendan said they submitted choices but also given a song or theme on occasion
2013 Kristina said they did not choose songs any more
2014 James Jordan implied producers dictating everything
2014 Tristan said they were given songs and costume but asked to suggest music and concepts when partnered up. Balance decided by producers as to concept and dance
2015 Kristina said 90% of the choices came from production, pros can make suggestions sometimes taken on board
2015 Robin said pros submit list but often their choices get given to other couples and they end up with something bizarre...

ppeatfruit · 24/10/2016 13:10

Interesting Kimmy Surely Dave Arch et al can all read music ? They do sometimes sound bad and other times sound amazing.

CaveMum · 24/10/2016 13:11

Personally speaking Jive is my least favourite Latin dance as it's the one I struggle with the most. Before I started dancing I thought I'd hate the Samba but actually I love it!

Each dance has its own characteristics: the Cha Cha and Rumba are both very similar, certainly at the lower levels the majority of the figures you dance are the same, the difference is in the timing.

Samba you can just let rip and really throw yourself into a party!

Paso is more like a ballroom dance when you look at the footwork involved. As my teacher always says, you can cover up a lot of mistakes in Latin by just wiggling your hips, but there's nowhere to hide in Ballroom!

Waltz is a really hard dance to get right because it is so slow. When I first started dancing it I frequently had sore ankles from the rise and fall and would feel myself losing balance when dancing practise squares.

I found Quickstep a lot easier than Waltz and love dancing it.

I've only recently started Slow Foxtrot but am enjoying it.

I haven't danced Ballroom Tango yet but years ago did a course in Argentine Tango which was great fun. At a social level (non-competition) it's very relaxed and informal.

Salsa is my first love, it's where I started out and I taught it for 4 yeasts. Unfortunately you rarely see a good salsa on SCD these days, the routines are more like pop videos Sad

I think the music is vital to whatever you are dancing, I'm not a fan of shoehorning modern music in where it doesn't really fit. I particularly hate Paso's and Tango's to a lot of the rock music they use.

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 24/10/2016 13:12

Have they always had 'spare' pros or is that quite a recent thing?

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:15

Other examples of celebs getting their favourites:
Craig Kelly don't let the sun go down on me
Alesha Crazy in love
Peter S mission impossible
Kara samba pa ti

Other examples of pros getting their requests:
Natalie Lowe King of the swingers
Pash AT for Caroline
Vincent Rumour has it, holiday

Celebs can try and change choices (Louisa/russell)
Pros/slebs have tweeted for requests in the past (Natalie/Russell)

Production team have final say

Examples of foisted songs or themes
Tristan mama mia
Ola rock of ages tango (here I go again)
Brendan right here waiting
Pasha hungry like the wolf

Pre 2012 Natalie Ian Erin Anton all confirmed they generally chose and 9/10 got what they asked for (unless wanting same track) and often thought of potential tracks/routines re season. But certainly by 2012/3 the pros seem to have been choosing from the best of a bad bunch and being told what themes to do rather than them submitting choices and the producers picking one pending copyright/repetition/clearance.

Oh and sometimes getting clearance for a song is not as easy as you might think. They could not clear a song in time recently on DWTS until late by which point the pro had gone to the fallback track. That might be different in the UK, not sure!

Hope this helps.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:20

I would hope they can all read musicGrin sorry, bad phrasing, I meant arrangement and rehearsal. But I am not remotely musical so have no idea how hard it is to change time signatures or perfect a song for a live show.

CaveMum · 24/10/2016 13:22

This is what a proper salsa should look like. It doesn't have to be really fast and full of lifts. They key is that it is smooth with a lot of hip action and intricate arm movements.

MoonriseKingdom · 24/10/2016 13:24

Thanks Kimmy - very informative. Seems a bit unfair when the judges are critical of song choice/ theming when neither pro or celeb have much choice. Thinking particularly of that Halloween one where Brendan and partner where dressed as dogs and Brendan seemed really pissed off about the whole thing.

OP posts:
emotionsecho · 24/10/2016 13:25

I do wish the Judges would stop it with the "You shouldn't be in the bottom two/dance off" malarkey they know damn well that those couples in the lower middle and towards the bottom are likely to end up in the dance off, it happens every year, they didn't like it when it was merely public vote + judges vote, they wanted more control so the dance off was introduced.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:30

Ooh I'd love to be able to do that.
Spare pros I am not sure was a thing til Jo got benched last year. Hard to know whether a potential sign up dropped out or not.
In the past iirc Brendan stood in a couple of times.
Aliona famously came back for a series to fill in for Nat.
Trent signed up to fill in for Robin.
This year I would suspect it has everything to do with wanting a shorter pro for Claudia F and taking on Chloe as part of the package.
Neil was already choreoing. Strange he ended up benched but potentially being introduced as a pro for next year if Anton replaces Len.
Somewhat strange the "spare" did not cover for Brendan, unless Gorka deemed better match height wise/better for QT.

StrictlyPan · 24/10/2016 13:38

Aliona always got her own way. Still does....

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:40

As Monkseal pointed out Darcy's distress at Lesley being in bottom two was risible given she's scored noone lower.

I thought Brendan had elected to use the dog bollocks (which ended up not being the dog's bollocksWink) from Ola and Iwan (thought he had tweeted her thanking her) after they went out early. Lordy knows what he had originally to make that call.

Without slagging off the producers, I would love Anton or Brendan to write a book eventually where they dissect a decade of their routines: who chose/why/how it affected the routine...but I am a tad OCD about SCD.

CaveMum · 24/10/2016 13:40

And a lovely chilled out AT

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:45

Thanks cave lovely videos.
Beverley Callard has tweeted that Coro stars aren't allowed to sign up for Strictly. I was about to say how would they have time but then remembered EE and Casualty.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 13:52

I agree moonrise the judges should comment on the dancing alone, given the lack of control they seem to have (I can believe the Jordans exaggerating a bit but Tristan seems a credible source Wink).
The funniest was Kirsty slagging off U2 knowing her own partner had chosen it (she was totally right, I just can't see how that helped relations with Mr Cole).

BalloonSlayer · 24/10/2016 13:56

Wasn't Georgia May Whatsit last year from Corrie?

Maybe Darcy's distress was because she felt bad that she had marked Lesley low and this was the result . . . ie the perfectly normal reaction of a nice person.

I think Craig fancies Danny. When he said "I'd like to watch you all night" I thought fnarr, and then when Danny got through you could see him giving a massive grin to someone in that direction and when it cut to the judges there was Craig with a matching grin.

Marbleheadjohnson · 24/10/2016 13:59

Georgia had already left Corrie by the time SCD started last year, I believe. Similar with Natalie Gumede.

MoonriseKingdom · 24/10/2016 14:09

I bow to your superior knowledge kimmy. I think I misinterpreted Brendan's unhappy demeanour - they really didn't get on well it seems Grin

OP posts:
MoonriseKingdom · 24/10/2016 14:13

Saturday got me wondering how Anastacia will feel about being back dancing with Brendan when she has had her best week with Gorka? I think it was just fortunate that it was a week where the dance, the outfit and the music just came together and really suited her. I think they said Brendan had done the choreography. Hope he's feeling better this week - can take a while to get over a chest infection.

OP posts:
228agreenend · 24/10/2016 14:27

I think anastacia should stay with Gorka. Although I luv Brendan, Gorka got a lot more out of Anastacia and definitely her best dance.

I may be wrong, but are the costumes more 'musical' and less traditional this year. Very people seem to be wearing the traditional ball gown this year, but seemed to be wearing themed outfits. That's okay for certain dances, such as Charleston, and on themed nights, but not on ordernary shows. I'd love a night of purely traditional ballroom.

Loved the dance to Leanne Rimes.

I think Ore and Dan are getting great cheography this year. Other people seem to have blander routines.

KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 15:10

You are the first person ever to say that to me moonrise Grin wish it were true. My mastermind specialist subject would probably be Disney films rather than Strictly...but I discovered the fun of twitter last year and many pros tweet twat a lot. I think Kirsty and Brendan were okay together - compared with BloodyLulu - but she was just frustrated at making mistakes. ( I thought she'd do better, she excelled in The Games). I like Brendan. He does a weekly blog now and was most gracious about Gorka. I wish they had thanked him for the bulk part of the choreo.
But yes, you are right. Had Ana gone out, he would have felt guilty. Now, the pressure is really on as she got her highest score and height wise far better (does not explain the gapping). But she could well be in danger...Ed and Judge fanbase strong, he's been cursed with Halloween jives in the past, Daisy might get a bottom two bounce, Laura might get over scored by Bruno and Greg has women multiple voting/spam voting to keep him in. Brendan has a fanbase but cannot compete with Greg's bum.
Ideally Ana stays in this week so he doesn't get scapegoated. Certainly they make a huge deal of it on DWTS...they do a partner swapping week for one week/no eliminations, then the following week you get vts of slebs saying: Derek did it like this...Nightmare.
I do remember Kevin being really sick but determined to do that salsa with Frankie, come hell or highwater.
But I was pleased for Gorka. Would have been awful to lose a DO twice. Brendan has been in that boat...a rumba with Holly for Artem and thankfully got through. Noone wants to be responsible for someone else's partner leaving.
Suspect you are right though, unfair comparisons will be made. I hope he gets a Viennese but cannot think of a halloween track. (Well I can, twirling round to the hook in Don't fear the reaper with Brendan as Death* but I cannot make the time signature work).

  • appropriate with the false reports of his demise. There is a slowed down cover version which could make a really slow rumba but I suspect I would be the only one who liked it.
KimmySchmidtsSmile · 24/10/2016 15:16

^ Scrap that, they did one already, didn't they? That twilighty one. An AS would be a decent bet if she is up to lifts now?

pan any chance of your girl doing DWTS?

StrictlyPan · 24/10/2016 15:31

She's talked about it Kimmy but I don't think her heart would be in it, tbh When I see how happy she is, stood at the sink, gazing wistfully out of the kitchen window onto next door neighbour's cess pit, peeling the spuds for the family stew with 5 of the kids tugging at her skirt with chocolatty fingers - dragging her away from her own slice of heaven would be inhuman.
She's such a changed woman from them days.

AxminsterCarpet · 24/10/2016 16:07
Grin
morningtoncrescent62 · 24/10/2016 16:24

I like tango and Argentine tango best but they need to be dark and fiery. Really miss Vincent and Flavia.

I tend to agree with you, Moonrise. I loved the demonstration ATs that Vincent and Flavia did occasionally, but I can't think of any memorable ones that any of the celebrities have done - for me, both the tango and AT have to be really, really well performed otherwise they make my toes curl. Which unfortunately Lesley & Anton's did at the weekend, much though I wanted Lesley to stay. She was in the metro today reportedly sounding as much relieved as disappointed - she said that she'd loved being on the show, but how tiring it was to train while she was filming full-time.

Pan, are you a celebrity mum? Have I missed something known by everyone except me?

Swipe left for the next trending thread