The Fall is back

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The Fall is back on RTE 1 in Sunday at 9.30
Jamie Dornan survives I think.
Looking forward to it.

Will Gillian Anderson still be wearing those lush silk blouses?
Anyone know where they are from?

I think the note was a way of showing that Stella was always aware, even when Spector didn't know. He threw the note and thought no one realised and then right at the end with no fanfare, she just gets it out and quietly puts it on her fridge - just quietly one step ahead.

Also the whole thing wasn't really about the realism, unless coppers really stay in really posh hotels when they're working away from home, ICU nurses deliver therapy to psychopaths etc

But yes, the security in that 'secure' unit was terrible! DH and I were shouting don't walk in front of him! Among other things.

Brilliant BOF , even down to the anguished expression.

That's amazing, exactly the same big brown eyes!

the Blouse, in the end, will triumph over the Balaclava Yes, BoF.

I loved the setting in Belfast and the accents. Though I have happier associations with the Botanic Gardens, photo I took there is now the wallpaper on my phone & laptop.

hahha that dog! Yes!!!!!

Did anyone see One of Us? It was recently on the BBC, about two families in Scotland? John lynch was in that, basically doing the same kinda thing.

Maybe the next series will feature the doctor and the creepy nurse in some capacity. I'd prefer a new setting entirely TBH. A fresh start.

The last episode was superbly acted. The assault scene was chilling. I thought this series was a little too long though.

I don't get irritated by incorrect portrayals of policing/psych/hospital wards because I've no idea about them. I did wonder why the psychiatric patients were permitted a snooker table though.

Brillant BoF!

Looks exactly like my dog! I'm rechristening him!

That dog

User yes I saw it.
Again anguished. He does anguished very well.

"Why don't I like her stuff much then? Apart from the very first Prime Suspect series I haven't enjoyed any of her shows confused"

Have you read her? The characterisation is non existent, IMO. That might be why.

Just had a big catch up on this series. Like you all, I'm baffled why Spector wasn't handcuffed etc at the clinic after the attack but even more so by why he'd be in the staff locker area with Wallander? Surely protocol wouldn't put patients in there, even supervised!

Just watched the last episode, I loved it! The attack on Stella was so unexpected. I think it's virtually certain the amnesia was faked, him talking about her distress when he was shot was clearly an attempt to rattle her. He remembered everything. They certainly made a big point of saying there was no medical evidence of amnesia.
Her reasons for pinning the note was a bit of an enigma, I think perhaps it's a goal of hers to live in love but I don't think for one moment she is. And the flowers!! From the doctor? From Merlin? Maybe there's a whole other side to her life we don't know about, maybe she has a partner in London?
I'd definitely watch a future series of her taking on another case. She could be another Jackson Brodie or Comoran Strike, taking on all kinds of interesting cases

Vashta, when she pulled up in the taxi I wondered if a partner would be home to welcome her, all oblivious to the Belfast shenanigans!

I thought the flowers were a thank you present from the Belfast team but I prefer the idea she bought them at the airport because she likes flowers, as shown by the fact there were drooping flowers in the vase to be replaced.

How long was she in Belfast altogether? About 2 months?

I think she must have been there several months but for us watching it's been 3 years or so??! I mean Olivia aged massively in it.. that's how can tell.. by how quick the kids grow as don't notice it with the adults.
I might be wrong but in 'their' time about 3 - 6 months?
Bronaugh Waugh and Valene Kane certainly lost weight for the last series… they must have been told to for their parts.
Wasn't there even in the characters time, a break? How long did PS go to Scotland for?

Hilary - the doctor asked her (when she was recovering in hospital from the attack) whether she liked flowers, and she said "Of course"

I half expected Merlin to get out of the taxi with her, though

alltoo - I think it's about 3 months from start to finish?

The most jarring question the doctor asked was (I think) whether she had friends! She was very convincing in her response despite seeming very lonely.

I think it was to be expected that she'd live in a big swanky house - those silk blouses and the endless trips to the dry cleaners suggests she's well off.

Did she ever talk about her mother? Was she adused by her dad - or just very in love with him.

I'd like a new series but without the hairy Irish policeman. At one point I thought you might find out he was Spector's dad!

Her tone in the response to the friends question made me think she was almost surprised by the fact that she does have some.

Now that would have been an interesting twist Lizzie! Might have explained his unrelenting anguish.

Yes I wasn't at all surprised she had a nice house, she's a Chief Superintendent isn't she? The pay's pretty good. And her accent is unlike any Londoners I know, she's super posh!!

No, I haven't read any Lynda La Plante books, however I'm normally quite happy to watch any old dross on tv so it can't be that I'm annoyed at the lack of characterisation. I think, looking back, I was so fascinated by the immense, realistic sexism inherent in the police portrayed in the first series, and then in later series it just seemed to be less of a thing. OK, you can't keep on about the same thing forever, but equally you can't just gloss over it which is what seemed to happen in the others.

My biggest problem with the doctor is that he's Jeff from Coupling. I kept expecting him to randomly blurt 'BREASTS' while talking to Stella.

I had a busy Friday night so watched this a 2nd time. There's actually a week between the attack and Spector killing himself. This comes up in the conversation with the consultant neurologist (?) when the psychiatrist tells her he's been behaving himself. It also perhaps explains why Stella's injuries have calmed down.

I was surprisingly satisfied by the ending, given that I had realised he would most likely kill himself before it happened. I liked how Stella brought up him on taking responsibility for his actions despite that childhood and the change in him from being this seemingly redemptive character.

It's very ambiguous about his amnesia, it was the consultant who said he should be treated as a malingerer given the lack of neurological evidence. I'm in two minds as to whether it was real and think as someone said he had some disassociate condition. When the psychiatrist said he was treatable but not curable it was the nail in the coffin.

I think his killing of the other inmate was to put him out there as sheer violent and as also an out and out killer.

I liked the wee snippets into Stella's 'real life' from the doctors prompts. I think she was sedated at this point.

Given that Belfast and London aren't that far by plane, I'm surprised she hadn't returned to house in between. In the very first episode of S1 it shows you at her house, cleaning the bathroom before getting organised to go to Belfast so I don't think she's actually has a cleaner.

It was a sad that they didn't follow up on what happened with Tom Anderson. Her cowering from his touch after the attack while he plaintively tells her it'll be alright was rather heartbreaking. They both managed to move on after their one night stand but there seemed to be a lingering intimacy there. I can't imagine her ever having late night Skype calls with Burns while she's in her jammies.

All in all I thought it was wrapped up well. Love to see a follow up but not sure how they'd play it.

I loved it. All that stillness and menace in the first five really paid off with the genuinely shocking explosions in the last one.

JD was magnificent. How do you make your eyes do that? As someone has said, they looked dead, like shark's eyes.

Gillian A was also magnificent. All that subtle emotion effortlessly conveyed.

When she was paying the taxi driver the flowers were on the floor with the rest of her stuff.

I want the next series to be about her, Jim Burns, the female officer who she took on to the task force (can't remember her name), the guy from Wallander and Katy. I wasn't sure if Stella had 'reached' Katy in that chat; she was so eager to ask 'Is it Paul?' when Stella got the phone call, and her face when Stella left the room was ambiguous – I think she looked pleased with herself (or with whatever she thought Paul had done now?). I also thought Stella's last look at her was one of 'Damn, I could have got to her if I didn't have to go', as if she also knew Katy was still 'out there'.

I liked the burgundy blouse.

I totally loved all 3series, but particularly the dark intensity of series 3, how Spector magnetises all who know him. I took the drooping flowers as a symbol for Stella's loneliness- she loves no one and wears a mask, as Spector observed. She enters with a new bouquet to show she buys her own flowers and has no one in her life to love her. She has been in Belfast for months so I guess she has a cleaner who has been picking up the mail etc but hasn't been there for a few days. She may have been popping home from time to time herself too. I am waiting with baited breath to see if there's a season 4 and where it will be set. I think GA has damaged her vocal cords as an earlier poster suggested. I saw her amazing performance in Streetcar which ran for months and she was completely hoarse from that. She requires voice rest now and deserves it!

I took the flowers to be a leaving present from the cops in Belfast.

I do wonder if Spector really had a dissociative disorder, or if he was planting the idea of it in his psych nurse's mind, just as I think he planted the idea of his innocence in his lawyers' minds when he was talking to them.