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The Fall is back

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hollyisalovelyname · 23/09/2016 19:23

The Fall is back on RTE 1 in Sunday at 9.30
Jamie Dornan survives I think.
Looking forward to it.

Will Gillian Anderson still be wearing those lush silk blouses?
Anyone know where they are from?

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Optimist1 · 29/10/2016 12:07

Foxes - how clever of you to notice that she brought the flowers in when the taxi dropped her off. I guess I'm demoted to Detective Constable now! Smile

alltoomuchrightnow · 29/10/2016 12:15

Yep also marvelled at how few letters Stella had,
Really hoped there'd be a better twist.. I knew she would find 'something' - either the £20 note (which she did) or maybe a letter sent from Spector before he was arrested, to taunt her..
I really didn't want him to die, but to escape.. great character, massively scary and complex
I knew the inmate would bite the dust for sure because of it being revealed what he'd done to his young sister

So.. was it left hanging re debate of the amnesia?? Did he fake it? Or were things genuinely starting to come back to him? (i.e. when he said he heard Stella's voice when he got shot)
Surprised after the attack that Stella wasn't dead..or severely concussed. Is she made of steel despite fragile appearance?
Also not explored why he accidentally murdered Susan yet went on to deliberately murder. (or do I need to watch them all again?) As in, he left London and returned to Belfast in 2002 and David was imprisoned wrongly for Susan's murder . He wanted a new life so name changed, married and had kids. Began work in bereavement counselling. So what happened to make him start that planned killing spree? I guess we're just meant to accept it was his nature and something that could not be suppressed (i.e. within the gentle family man lurked the beast)

I'd already guessed Olivia and Liam were real life brother and sister. Same ears and mouth for sure

Bountybarsyuk · 29/10/2016 13:05

I thought this series was amazing, the last two episodes in particular, but the build up worked for me, I was petrified by the last episode, seeing the end coming.

What I found clever was that once caught, Paul had to face the gaze of other people. None of them saw him the same, the nurse saw him as a patient, with a bruised body, as a human, the psychiatrist saw him as a psychiatric patient, the nurse/carer in the ward stared at him a lot and perhaps saw him with disgust but also as an avenging angel, doing nothing to stop their sinister friendship growing, he also didn't resuscitate Paul at all, as was claimed on TV. The lawyer saw him as an income source.

Bit by bit, Paul started to see how others saw him, but it was when he was confronted with the truth- Stella told him he was an immature psychopath who needed to own what he'd done, and the psychiatrist told him that he would never be cured, both of whom he attacked for telling the truth, that Paul realised it was the end of the road for him. It was this blunt encounter with the truth that did for him in the end. There couldn't be an alternate realities (where he's humanized, where he gets therapy and gets better, where he stops his murderous impulses), so he jumps ship.

Stella looked worn out and shell-shocked, ok, perhaps the huskiness was overdone, but I think she was trying to show the emotional exhaustion of this process. Her boss (the drinker) the same. As someone else said, Paul's ripples of destruction were at their peak.

I loved it!

CruCru · 29/10/2016 13:28

I assumed that Stella was from a wealthy background - she told the doctor that she used to play the violin as a girl and I can definitely imagine her having gone to a smart boarding or London day school. This may explain why she has a house in Notting Hill (as the tube her taxi passed had signs for central / district and central lines). The house looked more like west London.

I also assume that her cleaning lady would have picked up a lot of her post. No idea re the flowers.

Yes, when PS attacked her, I was surprised that her teeth weren't all over the floor.

Mner · 29/10/2016 13:35

I was thinking the cleaner might have picked up the post, supplied the flowers... or maybe a neighbour. She was always going to have an amazing house - her clothes and attention to detail on looking after her clothes, were amazing...

DispatchReady · 29/10/2016 14:22

Just watched the last 2 eps back to back - bloody hell that was intense despite some silly stuff. No repercussions for what he did to Stella or Merlin (who wasn't seen again!), surely he'd have been in solitary but they just uncuffed him and let him walk down the corridor with Wallander who I thought he was then going to attack!

The acting was superbly subtle and brilliant. Found Paul's death really disturbing.

Would have been good to see Sally Ann and I wonder why the kids weren't living with the grandparents, that was a bit odd. Also wonder what was going on with Jim...lots of loose ends need tying up still. Not sure how they'll do that in another series as Stella is back in London, so it'll either have to focus on a new case for her or stick to the NI police? Overall enjoyed it very much but still lots of unanswered questions!

user1475253854 · 29/10/2016 14:32

Maybe Stella has one of those 'no junk mail' signs that people have in London?

As a pp has mentioned, when JD was on graham Norton he talked about people taking the piss out of how he walked when he did 50 shades/the fall I can't remember. So although he's hot and sexy, he's not like the full package - he doesn't swagger/isn't aware of his sexiness perhaps? Though I think he's worked on his walk since then.

user1475253854 · 29/10/2016 14:33

Yes I felt sorry for Merlin. One arm broken, the other recovering from a gunshot wound.

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OlennasWimple · 29/10/2016 14:41

Great post Bounty

user - everyone ignores the "No Junk Mail" signs in London Grin

holly - you can download a free VPN extender to access country-limited sites

HmmmmBop · 29/10/2016 14:46

He deliberately broke Merlin's bad arm. He hesitated and then broke it.

EverySongbirdSays · 29/10/2016 14:49

It was mad that Jamie Dornan could go from "Poor Baffled But I'm A Nice Guy Guv" Paul to "Evil Bastard Paul" - VIA A GLINT IN HIS EYE!

I mean, that is good acting, I can't give myself a murderous eye through effort.

It's why I thought he'd be a good Christian Grey. Alas! Let down by the script/lack of chemistry with the actress.

WipsGlitter · 29/10/2016 14:50

Posted earlier but as it's come up again

stellas house

Maudlinmaud · 29/10/2016 14:52

I just had to remind myself of the real Dornan and watched him discuss his walk on Norton, he really is lovely.
What an actor!

OlennasWimple · 29/10/2016 15:01

I thought that the experts were saying that he didn't have any brain trauma that would explain his amnesia, by the way, but the TV critics disagree - did I get it wrong?

And even without faking amnesia, is it realistic for his to remember Stella shouting about losing him as he was slipping into unconsciousness? I thought people tend to forget the last few moments just before blacking out?

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 29/10/2016 15:18

Given that Stella's house is currently advertised at £475K, it isn't actually in anything like the most expensive bracket for London - a house that size in Knightsbridge or Kensington would be at least £750K. If she bought in the early 90s or the more recent recession, she could have got it quite cheaply. The actual address is Mount Pleasant, some bits of which are Georgian and naice, some bits certainly aren't, and it's a bit of a schlep to central London. So around 10/20 years ago it could have been even less des res. I don't see why anyone thinks it's so impossible that she could never have inherited enough to buy it: she could be the only child inheriting from both sides of the family, she may have an inheritance from grandparents, her parents may have had life insurance.

WipsGlitter · 29/10/2016 15:25

Hi, the house linked to is in Belfast! Just down the road. It's a very, very swish road of houses.

LadyConstanceDeCoverlet · 29/10/2016 15:42

Oops. OK, but I stand by the fact that certain areas of London were downmarket 10-20 years ago and therefore could be picked up quite cheaply, but have become fashionable subsequently.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 29/10/2016 16:10

£750 in Knightsbridge? And the restGrin

OlennasWimple · 29/10/2016 16:45

The house also isn't that huge - it's only really a kitchen and lounge downstairs. (Would still be over a million in Kensington...)

hollyisalovelyname · 29/10/2016 16:51

Is there a basement in that house?
Is it a duplex ?

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CruCru · 29/10/2016 17:00

I've assumed the house is in Notting Hill / Holland Park. It would be on the market for at least £5m round there.

CruCru · 29/10/2016 17:07

Actually that is perhaps a bit high an estimate - looking at Zoopla, it is more like 3.5 / 4.5m.

m.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/39839176?search_identifier=211a3e8feb3c87bfab924ba7af3dfe2e

tattychicken · 29/10/2016 17:19

I think PS killing himself was a final "fuck you" to Stella. She had said how she fought to save him in the woods because death was too easy a way out, how she wanted him to face the consequences of what he had done. By commuting suicide, PS 'wins' and Stella loses. Hence her looking lost and defeated at the end. It was an epic battle between two fierce combatants and she wasn't the winner.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 29/10/2016 17:22

I agree tatty.

Super creepy when he was being interviewed and they asked why he hadn't noticed the woman was suffocating and he said he was going down on her.

Urghhh!

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