The Fall is back

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The Fall is back on RTE 1 in Sunday at 9.30
Jamie Dornan survives I think.
Looking forward to it.

Will Gillian Anderson still be wearing those lush silk blouses?
Anyone know where they are from?

He keeps examining that scar and Jamie Dornan, when asked to describe this series said 'bloody'..I've not seen huge amounts of blood yet. I think he'll kill himself before he gets to trial but more as a tortured soul than as a remorseful one who couldn't stand what he did.

I spent most of episode 5 asking DH what the psychiatrist guy was saying. I think I just want him to break out and do a scary fucking murder and have Stella beat him to death with a pretty shoe.

Rrross
I have my theory on the end of Paul Spector...

We turned the volume way up and still missed a lot of what wallander was saying!
What do we think of Jamie Dornan''s line at the end?
And what is the story with beardy alchie cop? Was he complicit in the abuse?

What was his line again?! About the police being clever? Did he mean he remembers that murder?

Cmon bronte spill!

Beardy bastard knows some serious shit. Have you noticed that he's packing a half bottle of voddy instead of a miniature now? He'll end up like the bloke I dobbed in to Tesco security one time for shoving bottles of of Johnny Walker down his joggers.

I think it'll be a sort of suicide by proxy. D'ya know what I mean?

Yup, beardy guy is falling to bits. I was thinking he must have been in some way complicit in the abuse at the children's home.
I think Wallender is great, despite his Scandic whispering. He did a brilliant line in whipping-off-his-glasses.

Yes it was roughly "the police have been clever, they've come across something that I remember"

I can't hear Wallender either.

I was having a weird "the psychiatrist looks like Wallander and sounds Scandi, but i thought that actor had died recently." When the credits rolled & I saw the actor's name I thought "that's it! There were 2 Swedish actors who played Wallander & it's the other one!" Now, typing this out, I realise he is the Wallander actor I thought he was, but older and that it was actually the character Wallander that died/was bumped off, not the actor who died.

Anyhow, this was my first time watching the new series &, from the look of the thread, I seem to have missed all the slow, boring stuff & jumped in at exactly the right place.

Watching with subtitles turned on makes it so much easier. Yes at the end he says"the police have been clever, they have found something that is before my memory loss" or something to that effect.
Role on tomorrow!!!

I've just finished watching episode 5: he says "They've found something I can actually remember"

Questions - best answers and theories please!

1. What is the psych nurse up to? Why would he tell PS about what the other bloke had done?

2. Did I imagine it or psych nurse prick up his ears at the mention of the children's home during the case conference? Perhaps he knows what went on there so knows that PS is very likely to have a history of being sexually abused?

3. Is is a coincidence that the bloke's sister (killed after a broken arm) was 12 years old at the time, and PS was 12 when he went into the boys home? (Is PS going to attack the bloke as some kind of payback for his 12 year old self?)

4. Anyone else completely annoyed by petulant Katie and struggling to see where her story line will end up?

5. Anyone else completely not missing the nurse?

I think you're right Brontebiscuits my money is on the mild mannered red haired schizophrenic who broke his 12 year old sister's arm, raped her and threw her into the traffic. I reckon that Spector will deliberately provoke him into killing him. Stella will get there just before Spector dies.

Didn't Spector deny being abused at the children's home in the earlier series? And now it appears that he was particularly badly abused. He does seem to have had a spectacularly grim childhood. I seem to remember that abuse can often feature in the background of people with multiple personalities as distancing themselves from the self that the abuse is happening to can be a way of coping with it. This could fit in with Spector having two names. The memory loss could be another attempt to erase the person who is committing the crimes.

Emily - I think you're right - PS has spoken about being able to distance himself from his body, presumably as a survival technique during the year of particularly bad abuse

Oleanna

1. I think that the psych nurse felt that the other patient had given a somewhat incomplete account of why he was in there. I felt that he was trying to be fair to Spector letting him know that the red haired man was more dangerous than he appeared. He may also have been trying to show Spector that he wasn't that special being "The Belfast Strangler", the other patients were also violent and dangerous.

2. I expect the children's home is notorious. Won't the court case that jailed the perpetrators of the abuse have resulted in a huge amount of publicity?

3. I think Spector will goade the other patient into an attack.

4. Katie is just tiresome now. Is it really credible that anyone, even a mixed up teenager, could be so attracted to a serial killer?

5. Not missing the nurse with a mission to save Spector's soul. Don't really see the point of her.

Red haired psych inmate said he has a key to his cell (why the hell would he?). Wonder if that will be significant. Couldn't make out much of what Wallander was saying either.

Also red haired man has already told Spector the best way to provoke him, i.e. Your haircut makes you look gay.

Reggae I think we were told earlier that some inmates were trusted with keys to their cells. The staff treat each of them according to their level of risk.

Hmmm, red haired man has the key to his cell; PS talked about how easy it is to break into people's houses as they feel safe and forget to lock up properly... Any connection?

Does anyone have any theories as to why Burns is so screwed up? He's drinking more and more, tried to attack Stella in the previous series and seems to be falling apart.

I can only come up with:

1 unrequited love for Stella.

2 trauma resulting from the children's home investigation.

3 not being terribly good at his job.

Is there anything else?

I'm just watching it now, and came to the thread hoping there were theories about that Burns scene. I must admit.... this episode has barely held my attention. I know I'm in the minority, but I'm very disappointed in this series.

Burns theories (in no particular order)

• never forgiven himself after having an affair with Stella

• children's home investigation haunted him

• he knew about the children's home but but didn't investigate as soon as he should have done

• he suffered similar abuse as a child

• someone still has dangerous dirt on him, and he's scared it's going to be used

• plain straightforward lapsed alcoholic

I wonder if we will get an answer to this sort of detail, though - we've never really had a series of The Fall with proper closure before