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susiella · 21/09/2016 10:59

Started last night C4 9pm.
I thought it was good.
Excellent performances from Robbie Coltrane, Julie Walters & Tim McInnerny.

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yorkshapudding · 28/09/2016 22:29

Did anyone watch right to the end? The car reversed out of the house and the house rebuilt itself. Does that mean Dee didn't drive into it and was only fantasising about doing that? confused

Oh I saw that but I just thought they were showing it backwards to give it a more surreal quality..like at the end of the previous episode when he's in the shower the water is running upwards.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 29/09/2016 09:53

yorksha that makes sense. I guess I was hoping that Dee hadn't run the car into the house because that's stretching my suspension of disbelief a bit too far.

Clawdy · 29/09/2016 10:40

Yes, I assumed they were just making it look a bit surreal, too.

CeeBeeBee · 29/09/2016 23:35

The shower scene at the end of the previous episode was also shown backwards Perhaps they are linked or perhaps just to make it surreal as mentioned...

I finally got On Demand to work after a complicated process of installing flash and a different browser.

I was gripped and still can't decide whether Paul is guilty of the rape allegations. Not sure what to make of the scene of young Paul going into Dee's room and crying.

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Rollergirl1 · 01/10/2016 00:01

It is very good but very disturbing.

Young Dee was doing the counting thing when waiting for the babysitter to leave and just before her Dad came in to her room. Modern day Dee is still doing that so suggests that she was already disturbed by something back when she was a teenager.

Also the scene where babysitter talks to young Robbie Coltrane when he gets home and says she likes drinking and is very flirty with him, whose POV is that meant to be from?

APlaceOnTheCouch · 01/10/2016 09:25

I think it was supposed to be from Dee's pov because the camera tended to stay with Dee.

Twoseventhsaweasley · 01/10/2016 15:15

Who was Paul chasing when he fell? Was it his younger self as mentioned earlier?

I thought that the scene where Marie (sp?) told Dee off for questioning her Dad's innocence was about the fact that Marie has built her life around the idea that Paul does not betray her in ways that matter. She knows that he cheats but she needs to believe that he is essentially a good man who loves his family. If Paul abused Dee then she has been wrong about him for decades. It means that she failed to protect her daughter. That is too much for Marie to deal with so she gives out to Dee to protect herself and her life.

Timetogetup0630 · 02/10/2016 06:30

Just started watching this on catch up. Excellent drama. Makes me very uncomfortable.
Robbie Coltrane is such an excellent actor.
Only on episode 1 so far but I was very moved by Dee and her hand actions, the counting and the waste bin stuffed with towels.......
Anyone on here old enough to remember "Cracker"?
That was one of my favourites.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 02/10/2016 12:51

I loved Cracker. RC was excellent in it and the writing was superb. It does make you wonder why he doesn't do more TV but maybe he doesn't have to because of the success of the Harry Potter franchise.

DiegeticMuch · 03/10/2016 18:40

This is a real treat. What a cast! Brilliant writing too. It's marred slightly by the wife's dubious Scottish accent but other than that, it's superb. Not a thing out of place.

Affable, talented tv guy. Venerated and adored by the public, but a cheating self-absorbed misogynist at heart. Reminds me of Rolf Harris, who also had a compliant wife who ignored his affairs, and one daughter who had a troubled childhood and whose first marriage failed.

Str4ngedaysindeed · 03/10/2016 18:42

Unbelievably,Cracker was about 24 years ago! It seems like yesterday......Absolutely loved it

APlaceOnTheCouch · 04/10/2016 08:34

Julie Walter's accent issue is odd. They could just have let her use her own. It would have been much less distracting.

Lilaclily · 04/10/2016 21:55

I've still no clue if he is guilty!

The80sweregreat · 04/10/2016 22:07

It has a stilted feel to it. When Paul was on the daughters doorstep it went weird , he moved twice. Did anyone else notice? All that filming the back of his head too. It has a horror movie feel to it. I cant make out if he is guilty or not either. The wife is odd too. ( i agree that J W's accent is a distraction)
I am horrified and fasinated by it. Last one next week.

Dulra · 04/10/2016 22:10

Me neither but he is so self absorbed it's scary everything has to revolve around him. I think the family dynamic is messed up but that doesn't make him guilty. Found it a bit unbelievable that the victim would confront the wife like she did in the courthouse toilets and disappointed we didn't see a bit more from julies flashbacks but loving it can't wait to discover all next week.

shins · 04/10/2016 22:10

Yes I thought of Rolf Harris too...his daughter was quite troubled if I recall, and never really lived independently, but stood by him during his trial. He had a sexual relationship with her friend when they were 13, which echoes the babysitter story.

Pemba · 05/10/2016 05:38

It started off being really absorbing but I feel that they are just dragging it out now.

The scene where he described to Dee how his father used to beat him etc...... eww. But what were we supposed to infer from that?

DID HE DO IT OR NOT? That's what we deserve to know by now, come on Channel 4. (If we never find out in the end, I will be furious. Hate ambiguous endings, they are usually a cop-out by the writer).

Tworingsandamicrowave · 05/10/2016 06:30

Totally agree with you Couch. It keeps changing and detracts from her performance. Loving the series though, brilliant acting from the main characters.

ProfYaffle · 05/10/2016 06:39

The saturated colours are starting to distract me. Lost count of the number of people with green hair!

neonrainbow · 05/10/2016 07:37

I haven't noticed the accent too much. I thought lucy speed makes a good young Julie walters. Can't wait for next week now!

Clawdy · 05/10/2016 07:43

The young Julie W looks nearly as old as the real one, think they should have just given Julie a nice wig or something! The younger selves are a bit confusing, but I can see they couldn't have Robbie C playing his old self.

gingina · 05/10/2016 11:33

The filming style reminds me of Utopia, all the dull greeny yellow colours and the creepy music.
I started off last nights thinking maybe he did do it but by the end I thought he hadn't.
Like a pp said, I really hope they clear it up next week and don't leave us hanging

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 05/10/2016 11:57

Who abused RC? I missed it as I had to let the cat outHmm

Optimist1 · 05/10/2016 12:42

I fear there won't be a definitive answer to this series - even if there's a court verdict I think they'll have sown enough seeds of doubt in our minds for us to question whether the verdict was correct. Quite uncomfortable viewing IMO, but JW and RC are terrific at conveying the intricacies of a marriage.