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ILikeToClean · 21/01/2016 14:17

Just saw the trailer for a new series of this - can't wait! Smile

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Lottapianos · 11/03/2016 18:53

Totally agree about Julie Hesmondhalgh - a waste of a terrific actress

Chippednailvarnish · 11/03/2016 18:54

Unless Julie H is going to be in the final finding out what Moseleys been up to.

Mind you I think their storyline might make the next series...

TheScarletSquid · 11/03/2016 19:11

Can I join in?! I've recently discovered this thread. ILikeToClean - that's what DH thinks! But the only theory we can come up with is that she's either doing it on TLR's say-so (if he told her to kill his mum) or that she's bumping off anyone he's ever been close to, out of jealousy, assuming he'd slept with those prostitutes. But it's all a bit tenuous...

moreshitandnofuckingredemption · 11/03/2016 19:24

Lillian I agree with you, I think Daryl's mum will realise somehow that he couldn't have killed Vicky Fleming and there will be some fallout from that - John (?) will be caught and Something Terrible will happen to D's mum.

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ILikeToClean · 11/03/2016 21:09

TheScarletSquid - you are right, it is a bit tenuous, just occurred to me when pp's were saying it might be a woman. It could be a good twist, but I actually think Daryl is the killer. Makes a lot more sense!

I really hope there is another series...to be honest, I wish this would just go on and on like a soap...it seems like there is still so much to cover and wrap up in one episode!

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FlyingRussianUnicorn · 11/03/2016 21:14

I think they should leave it after this series. Thoroughly enjoying it but best to leave it on a high, no?

southeastdweller · 11/03/2016 21:15

I agree that Daryl killed the sheep - another way the writer referenced Of Mice and Men. He has to be the killer.

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/03/2016 22:20

Tho no sperm and bottles be inserted makes you wonder

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 11/03/2016 22:26

Totally agree about Julie Hesmondhalgh - a waste of a terrific actress

Yes - I want to know more about those characters, ie. his family.

Also Amelia Bullmore - fabulous actress.

pigeonpoo · 11/03/2016 22:36

I like the theory that Catherine has become a killer - but that would be the end of any further series

And we've not been given any reason in her character to suspect she would do such a violent crime

So though I'd like the shock factor of it I don't think it's plausible based on all the clues we've been given so far

southeastdweller · 11/03/2016 22:36

I suppose the point of John's wife having an affair was to make it ironic that he killed Vicky, which I understand, but it would have been better if there'd been a build up to the affair she had.

CreepingDogFart · 12/03/2016 07:34

Maybe Julie Hesmondhalgh is the killer and wanted John out at work all the time so she could sleep with her boyfriend.Hmm

absolutelynotfabulous · 12/03/2016 07:59

I agree about the affair. It came out of nowhere, and added nothing imho. John was already having his own affair, so not a revenge thing.

pigeon I agree we should not discount Catherine as a possible killer. Not sure what motive she'd have, but she was certainly cross that Lynn had told Tommy about his being Ryan's dad. And the alibi she finally came up with-thanks to her friend Joyce-was a bit glib to me. She's certainly capable of vicious, and gratuitous, violence. I think she would've killed Tommy at the end of series 1, given half a chance (although she claimed to have sprayed him with foam to stop him setting himself on fire). I think she wanted to kill him and did not want him to kill himself first. She would've killed him too, had the other copper not pulled her off him, I think!

Actually, I'm surprised she was not sacked (or whatever the police force equivalent of being sacked is) for that. Tommy was already half-dead, she went in against the express instruction of her superiors, and kicked the hell out of a man who has not even been proven to be Ryan's dad.

Not that I blame herGrin.

CurrerBell · 12/03/2016 08:09

I was wondering about Frances being the killer. Perhaps she killed TLR's mother because she thought he wanted her dead (and was surprised when he was so apparently cut up about it). But not sure it all fits.

Catherine has never been a real suspect - it is only TLR who seems to believe she killed his mother.

I really don't want Daryl to be the killer, as he was shown to be so vulnerable. In Of Mice and Men Lenny was not a cold-hearted killer; he lost control / didn't know his own strength.

The local mafia must come into it somehow.

Gwenhwyfar · 12/03/2016 08:53

"I was wondering about Frances being the killer. Perhaps she killed TLR's mother because she thought he wanted her dead (and was surprised when he was so apparently cut up about it). But not sure it all fits. "

I suggested that up-thread after episode 1, but have changed my mind. Frances is mad, but not bad enough to do that. She seemed unhappy when TLR was encouraging her to do harm to Catherine.

PandasRock · 12/03/2016 09:19

Re: the affair, I think we are supposed to be focussing on how people who think there is no way out (John, who couldn't see any way out of Vicky blackmailing him, and wasn't ready to leave his -he thought - dutiful wife) will go to extreme measures.

He was wrong, of course. There was a way out, as his wife was having an affair too. The dutiful wife, who he thought would be devastated, actually couldn't have cared less.

He same reasoning is why I don't think Daryl killed the prodtitutes. He obviously has some significant needs, and his mum has always taken care of him/solved his problems/ found a way through whatever scrape he got in. But this one (killing the prostitutes, a conclusion she jumped too as it was never actually said - lots of talking at cross purposes, and tangents) was unsolvable, except by what she did. There was nothing more she could do, she felt she had failed him, and so she (in Mice and Men style) made him as happy as she could, while doing everything she could to make sure he didn't go to jail - not escape scot free, but she knew he wouldn't survive jail without her. But I think it will turn out (as with the affair situation) that there was another way, because he didn't actually kill them.

So both Farmer mum and John will have ended up killing for no reason, whilst thinking it was their only desperate way forward.

limitedperiodonly · 12/03/2016 09:25

Julie Hesmondhalgh's surprise affair worked for me. He and his girlfriend had given us the impression that she was frumpy and sexless and that was his excuse for straying.

I thought it was a good twist for him to realise that she is desirable, she just doesn't desire him.

And especially after he'd murdered Vicky. What a shock for him.

hollyisalovelyname · 12/03/2016 20:17

Planning my tv viewing for the week in the tv schedule mag free in today's paper - I know what's going to happen ( ish).
I won't spoil it for you. Smile

absolutelynotfabulous · 12/03/2016 20:19

I think the streets will be deserted next Tues at 9; everyone will be watching HV!

Chippednailvarnish · 13/03/2016 09:43

Similar points raised in the Telegraph

polyhymnia · 13/03/2016 14:48

Holly, I'm wondering which listings mag is so prone to spoilers. Was it one of those with the 'normal' Sunday papers?

hollyisalovelyname · 13/03/2016 15:43

Irish Times Saturday magazine supplement. I love the spoilersSmile
I plan my weeks viewing using the magazine.

NameRanger · 13/03/2016 16:14

I think Ann killed TLR's mum.

In one episode Ann was having a conversation with Catherine about the killer being a man and Catherine said something about there being no dna etc so could be a women and Ann looked shocked.

Blondeshavemorefun · 13/03/2016 16:26

Hmmmm ANN could work as the killer

I still think female as no sperm

She could get the keys of the white van as her dads company .....

absolutelynotfabulous · 13/03/2016 17:05

Ann? What would be her motive? I can see her as Lynn's killer (maybe to get back at TLR) and I can see the killer being a woman. Maybe. She'd have credibility, being a PCSO. And she's presumably pretty fit. I think she definitely has a part to play in this series.

There are so many angles on each character my brain hurts...