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The80sweregreat · 05/10/2015 08:57

Can't see a thread for this which started last night on BBC one , 9pm. I haven't seen the actress who plays Claire Church, the ex detective before, but she was in the Virgin Queen and Shameless. Set in Manchester and West coast of Scotland.
I thought it was based on a book ( possibly Nicci French or an author like that) but its not. Slow start, but the detective leading the investigations now was quite handsome and there is history between the two of them. The scenery for the west coast of Scotland was stunning.
Trouble is, I just felt it was cobbled together from other thrillers.

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lightgreenglass · 26/10/2015 14:04

I understood it as the original killer stopped after he cocked up with Lucy.

2rebecca · 26/10/2015 14:38

How did he know she hadn't had an abortion if he just picked her up after a party that also contained a few prostitutes? He obviously wasn't looking for a particular prostitute he recognised or he wouldn't have picked her up and it sounds as though there were a lot of people at the party. Did he assume all prostitutes have had abortions? They said he worked at a clinic but why not target particular women straight after their abortions in that case?

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 26/10/2015 14:49

It would beggar belief if this was recommissioned for another series.

fuzzpig · 26/10/2015 15:25

I just watched the last episode. At least I'm less confused anyway. Quite sad that Hind and Claire didn't get to be together in the end Blush (clearly I get way too involved in these things)

Inkanta · 26/10/2015 16:24

On the whole I thought the last episode was OK, and the last scene seemed right to me - without giving away what happened.

fascicle · 26/10/2015 17:10

I was hoping the last episode would make up for the shortfalls of the previous three. Instead, it was an utter load of nonsense. Across all the episodes, so much time was spent on lingering camera shots at the expense of proper content. It was no more a 'psychological crime drama' than any other police drama. Loads of stuff did not tie up/make sense and Claire's strategy to prioritise bringing the original killer to justice in order to satisfy/stop the current killer was utterly bonkers.

I'm left wondering why this was commissioned and how it came to be broadcast in its current state. I can only imagine the original script was poor enough to warrant changes that made it (even more) disjointed and nonsensical.

BelindaBagwash · 26/10/2015 17:10

Dire ending to a dire series - another 4 hours of my life wasted. Please God, not another series of this miserable shite. At least I'd know not to waste my time watching another one Sad

2rebecca · 26/10/2015 17:19

Agree Claire's logic was warped. Find the current nutty serial killer and then look for the one who isn't a threat at the moment. They could have done with Cracker to tell her serial killers don't respond to logic, they enjoy the killing and ritual too much.
She seemed a spectacularly stupid cop/ ex-cop though.

Allalonenow · 26/10/2015 18:43

I thought Lucy started to kill because the news about the discoveries of the bodies tipped her over the edge, reawakened all her horrors, making her want to be the focus of the attention she was denied when she was attacked all those years ago.

I thought the dog man stoppped killing because he realized that Lucy wasn't a prostitute, also because the investigation was getting very close to him, hence the total change in direction to running a dog rescue.

It could have been better done in two episodes, and without the Megan sub-plot. Also all the errors the police made, never calling for backup, Claire searching the prime suspects house alone, no search warrant etc. irritated it me.

As for all the loooong shots of Claire looking out of windows, staring into mirrors .... Just so boring.

deadwitchproject · 26/10/2015 22:03

Tedium Ad Nauseum. So boring. Never want to see another episode. Never want to see AMD's eyelids again.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/10/2015 22:31

So the dog man killed he prositutes as they had abortions? Lucy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Got an acid attack and then as Claire ignored /forget about her as having an affair and they went home that's why she started to kill after the body was found

Surely all those police would have seen lucy in the tunnel and helped her

Claire can say it's self defence as lucy shot her lover the policeman

There will be a s2 - police will rush in as heard gun fire and shot man will survive as was still breathing and bubbling blood

Lucy will be dead and claire will re rewarded for what she did but have huge flashbacks

And yes fed up with seeing her eye expression and lowing of lids

We had eyebrows in doctor foster and eye balls in this

Can't get into river and looking forward to unforgotten later this week

timelytess · 26/10/2015 23:10

I'm loving River. The first time I watched it, I thought - no. Then I told myself the dead people were manifestations of his mental state, not ghosts, and everything became clear.

I think the shot man will survive.

2rebecca · 26/10/2015 23:54

It sounds as though I lost some of the plot through too much moody nothingness

2rebecca · 27/10/2015 00:03

Its maybe better waiting and watching these 4 hour series over 2 nights rather than 4 weeks

Inkanta · 27/10/2015 04:02

'And yes fed up with seeing her eye expression and lowing of lids'

Me too! Confused

Also, just not plausible that all those police did not help a woman in a tunnel who was calling for help after being attacked with acid. And not plausible that two of them would stop to have a snog near the woman - ignoring her!

shins · 27/10/2015 06:24

Scriptwriter is Helen Baxendale's sister...some nepotism/connections? God it was dire. Anne Marie Duff is a quality actress, can't imagine what she was thinking.

fuzzpig · 27/10/2015 08:10

I'm still annoyed they didn't say what his misdemeanor was. I too had thought it was shagging a colleague or something but towards the end I thought he actually loved Claire so I don't think it would've been that.

I'm kind of wondering if he will survive as well. Although Claire was too busy saying "no no no no no no" and shooting Lucy to consider actually phoning an ambulance or trying to stop the bleeding.

I can kind of see it as plausible that they ignored Lucy, TBH, if it was the red light district and they saw prostitutes there all the time. Horrible as it is - familiarity breeds contempt and all that.

But I seem to be the only one vaguely defending the show, so I'll slink away quietly and carry on with River and Unforgotten instead Blush :o

2rebecca · 27/10/2015 08:10

If she had been attacked with acid would she not be screaming about needing an ambulance not just saying help? I wouldnt be hanging around a tunnel waiting for busy police if i had been burned. Did they say if she went to hospital to get it treated. I would expect the police to be involved then. The whole Lucy story makes no sense

Inkanta · 27/10/2015 08:33

Lucy was getting irritating with this 'you lied' to me line that she was repeating all the time and whinging about, so to be honest I was glad that Claire had had enough of it in the end.

hudyerwheesht · 27/10/2015 08:50

Can someone please tell me what it was that made Claire leave the force, move up to a remote Scottish island, end up on prescription meds long term in the first place?

SO annoyed that this hasn't been explained. All the alluding to - especially in the first couple of episodes - of something terrible, so terrible that she was (at first) having panic attacks at the sight of a crime scene photo, fainting in the tunnel, having flashbacks, "things even I can't hide from",etc, etc..

WHAT??

Did I miss the bit where this was explained?

quirkychick · 27/10/2015 08:51

So Claire said she'd come back and didn't so that makes it alright to burn/kill Agata, terrorise your ex's family and shoot a policeman? Hmm.

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fascicle · 27/10/2015 09:31

2rebecca
Did they say if she went to hospital to get it treated. I would expect the police to be involved then. The whole Lucy story makes no sense

In episode 3, Claire picked up files from the hospital, including a document on Lucy's attack.

I agree, Inkanta - 'you lied' was jarring and not apt. 'You forgot', maybe.

hudyerwheesht
No, it wasn't explained. I can only assume the horrors/stress of the job led to depression and suicide attempt. Although at that stage, the women's bodies had not been found. But the main source of her depression and guilt seemed to be the loss of her baby/pregnancy.

hudyerwheesht · 27/10/2015 11:00

That's what I don't get fascicle - apparently the main cause of all her grief, etc, was the loss of her baby following her suicide attempt, which is obviously understandable but what led to the suicide attempt was never explained.

It could be that the guy she was having the affair with didn't choose her in the end, but all the melodrama at the start of the series suggested that she was suffering from PTSD. Surely the end of an affair wouldn't cause all that. Or not catching the killer.

Can't bloody move for plot holes in that series, totally agreeing with PP's - I'm annoyed at the wasted 4 hours of my life.