The Returned

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Series 2 about to start in France, but all I can find about it being shown here is that it will be in the autumn. Does anyone know any more?

Meanwhile, series 1 is 4OD, it's obviously my duty to watch it to remind myself of the background.

He drew a picture of her (the neighbour) dead on the floor with cats around her. We'd seen the clip of the real life of this. When she was discovered though she was alone.

Loving how a bit more is being revealed each week. So many interesting threads being revealed now- poor Victor is such a misunderstood child I think.

Hmmm, Victor could be the cause though rather than predicting. He went in to the neighbours flat that was found dead and it was only after she was found dead that Julie found the picture that he'd drawn. And he was in the road and caused the coach to swerve. So perhaps he is making it all happen?

Just caught last night's episode.

Victor has a lot to do with it I think.

Is Julie now a Returnee or did she swim across the lake?

Virgils parents dies because he came vcki guess. The father shot himself?

So yes, confused but enjoying it

It really gives me the heebie jeebies The bit when they put the camera down that hole and they see the hands and bodies, that totally freaked me out. Does anyone else have a theory about what that's all about?

The whole show is one of the spookiest and most gripping I've seen in a while.

I think Camille and Lenas father is on to something. He said its like they have to wait for an opening before they can return.

helpful guide no 4

Guess Julie got wet

Virgil died years ago due to Milan and shocked his parents and as he east wanted - told to go away - I think he can't go anywhere

Weird seeing figures down tunnel

Who was bergs dad?

Victors drawing seems to suggest he is behind all of this

And why his parents and brother got shot

Pics show him sad then happy once found Julie then sad again

Can't believe only 4 left so we are half way :(

Few questions (that I thought I had posted but seems I didn't!)

who as being dumped in the lake? Milan? Do you think if you are dead and the then killed again and end up in the lake that that's it?

Well ok that's really one question but I haven't thought about the figures underground, because it's spooky and I can't even guess what it is.

Lucy I can't stand her and a few others weighed Milan down and chucked him in the lake as a punishment for killing her and numerous others too?

Not sure if he's permanently friended then, or alive under the water...or the weirdo creatures down in the deeps will rescue him?

I thought they had dropped him in with a weight so he couldn't get out again?

Yes they weighted Milan down - tho it's not if he will drown as dead - so Maybe will walk a long the bottom Till finds the slope to the shore?

Maybe will delay him?

Tho seems 25yrs ago Milan was a good man and mrs Costa? Said he was looked up to and respected as looked after the town after the flood

Bloody autocorrect - friended = drowned. He can't be drowned, unless being underwater keeps him dead as he can't return from the bottom of the lake?

I'm a week behind so I've just seen Lena killed (is she dead?) by Serge and Milan, and Julie walk into the water (so she was already returned? Is this why she didn't die when she was stabbed in the tunnel?).

Do we think Julie was meant to have the 'returned' baby but lost it so now Adele has? I think Adele is returned too. And I think Adele's husband (the policeman is returned and it's his body that is missing).

I definitely think the Pierre and Milan have a history but I can't figure out why Pierre wants to know where all the returned are? I'm obviously being very dim

tilliebob I can't watch it on my own, the zombie ones really freak me out! Can't believe there's only first left. Hope they don't leave it so long for season 3.

Julie isn't dead - she want across own accord to be with victor but now he has his mum Julie isn't wanted so she's gone back to other side

Who did Pierre lose in the bus crash? In s1 e1 they are all sitting round having their monthly meetings and peirre was the leader there

I thought Pierre was the leader of the group because he's a sinister minister

Sorry But I hadn't considered that he might have lost someone too. Good point.

I hope Lena isn't dead although suspect she will be. There's no way the dead can keep 'living' like this, so somehow they'll all have to go back to where they came from, right?

Victor - I keep thinking of the Ring with him (the kid who plays him is amazing, btw), because he creeps me out so much. I don't think he's completely human, definitely not now and not before either. He may not even be 'Louis' - wonder if he's the natural son of his parents, or whether he's adopted / a foundling? If he was a foundling it would fit with the supernatural elements of his personality.

And Camille saw him from the bus. So presumably he's come back before, before the current lot did. He seems to know an awful lot more about the returned/Julie/etc than anyone else. Maybe his original resurrection, after his murder at the hands of Milan, was the reason for Lucy coming back then too?

When did the dam break, btw? I missed when that was supposed to have occurred. 10 years ago? 15?

Sorry, I'm getting a bit into my Victor theory

The dam broke 35 years ago when all the flashbacks happened, didn't it?

def something about victor/louis and seems weird that milan was scared/wanted him dead

first dam flood/returns are 35years ago and thats when lucy and victor died

victor returned again 4years ago to cause the bus crash so 31 ish yrs ago

then others returrned from the crash now

peirre may just be the leader, of the circle, but maybe hes lost a child as well

I need some sort of timeline diagram of when everyone died and returned!

Wasn't Pierre Camille's stepfather? Also, I think he just had some sort of (self appointed) leadership role in the community.

He was seeing Claire who got divorced after camille died

Oh balls, I've just realised I missed the last one. Although yay! More to watch.

When the old lady talked about Milan looking after the town I thought she meant in a Mafioso kind of a way. Some people would prefer that to a complete breakdown of law and order so might still describe him as a good man.

Me too ghoul, or that he appeared respectable but was secretly doing the weird cultish stuff.

Wish it was Friday!

I don't think Pierre has lost anyone, just that he is the leader of The Helping Hand and had organised the session groups with the parents of the dead. I could be wrong though. Would be interesting if he has lost someone too.

The dam breaking has to be 35 years ago at least as Victor died after that. In season 1 you see Victor's mum and Mrs Costa helping in the fall out of the flood and both Victor and his brother and Toni and Serge are shown.

Have there been any returnees of people that actually died in the flood 35 years ago? I don't think there has. Mrs Costa died of starvation after the flood. Lucy and Victor and his family were murdered by Milan after the flood.

I don't think Milan has ever been a good man. I don't really know what they are alluding to though. That he is a religious vigilante purging the town after the flood? I think he has made Serge what he is and the whole eating the stomach/liver thing makes it seem satanic. Why is Lucy so scared him, both 35 years ago and present day?

Oh, and Pierre and Milan's history is that Milan was the leader of the vigilante group 35 years ago. Milan was in the car with Mr Costa and the young Pierre and it was Milan that sent Pierre and the other guy in to Victor's house the night they were killed. Pierre was reluctant and didn't want to go and after they had got out of the car Mr Costa said something like "they are only going to scare them aren't they?". Milan was very definitely the leader 35 years ago. I think present day Pierre is repeating history and becoming how Milan was back then.