New (final) 'This Is England 90'. Who's watching?

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I saw a massive poster for Sunday night's new season, just as the tube train arrived. I let my train home go so I could stare in detail at the characters' new looks. Who are the two blokes on the far left - have they been on before?

There is a This Is England characters catch-up documentary show on Channel4 tonight (Friday) after new Gogglebox, so prob 10pm.

"Promises were made, Combo."

He is older than woody im not sure how they were friends really it was never explained

I think it was through the music scene connected to skinhead culture, then Compo got into the National Front. The two things were closely connected by the mid-80s, but when it started, skinhead culture wasn't linked to right-wing politics.

DP is five years older than me, and he's just said he remembers it evolving out of ska, which was obviously very much a black AND white scene, which would explain Milky wearing the braces and boots etc, and also being pals with the group.

Here is Shane Meadows talking about growing up in that scene.

I enjoyed this in lots of ways but found the ending really problematic. We saw the poisonous NF scene in the original film, but then Combo was redeemed on an individual level through taking the blame for Lol's father's murder - like if you do something for love, it cancels out everything else. And there was a really uncomfortable sense of the white people telling Milky he should forgive because Combo was 'a changed man' - everyone seemed astonished he didn't want his black daughter in the same house as the man who a) had been in love with her mother and b) had beaten her father nigh unto death in a racially motivated assault!

Too much white people telling black people to get over it, while black people harbour unreasonable grudges, I felt.

Bitoffun of course it was the music i was being a bit dim not to realise that was the whole point of the film the move from ska music for some skinheads duh me

In the film combo and Lol have a conversation in his car about a night they had together before he went to prison (for 3 years). She says she was 16 when it happened so in the film which was set in 1983 she was 19. In the first series (1986) Lol talks to milky about why woody isnt ready to marry her and says "its been 8 years" she is 22 so she has been with woody since she was 14 (clearly a break of some description at one point if she was with combo) so probable woody an combo have known each other at least 6 years since Lol was 16. I think woody and milky are similar age to Lol, smell is about 3 years younger. Harvey was at school with shaun but i think a but older. Gadge said he was in the year above shaun but that he is a slow learner so maybe indicating was held back a year or two? So maybe he is same age as harvey? Possibly same age as kelly who is younger than Lol.

One of the TIE characters is a nasty man in this short vid warning about trafficking.

He has a very menacing face!

Actor, sorry. George Newton who plays Banjo.

Not sure what age Combo is. He went to prison in 1980, and that he'd fallen in love with Lol before going into prison

It says on wikia that at some time before that he was beaten by Lol's dad when he was 17 and that lol took him to hospital, it was after this that they slept together. Seeing I (stupidly) re watch i can't recall this but then I discover whilst watch '90. I've forgotten a lot!!!