3 day nanny tue 8pm ch4 s2

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just incase anyone liked this last series :)

The nanny was a stranger to the young children. She would give them nightmares. The 3 day cure does not sound real. It was pretentious.

What was pretentious about it? I can see why some people would disagree with her methods, but I'm not sure why they were pretentious? Or what her being middle-class has to do with anything?

I don't think she was MC or pretentious

I don't see what middle class has to do with anything either, and what is pretentious about managing a child's behaviour? That mum was utterly clueless and she had a 3 year old who was due to start nursery in a few months. She simply could not carry on with endless messing about at dressing time when she had to get him out of the house on time. Not to mention the yelling, hitting and spitting behaviours.

Actually yeah I would as a child rather have a parent who is firm and in charge, doesn't let me manipulate them and lets me explore my emotions and learn to calm myself rather than quickly pacifying and distracting me from them.
Of course as a child I wouldn't know that I would prefer this, ask a child and they will choose the indulgent no boundaries parent, look at the child with that sort of parent and you will see a miserable one.

He had some REALLY fruity language for such a little boy

Such programmes have an end in mind. And if they dont get it, the series may well not go out.

Producers call the shots. I have observed some such series behind the scenes.

So where did he learn the fruity language ??

Whether the boy learnt the bad language from his parents, friends or walking down the street, if it's nipped in the bud the first time it's said then that should be an end to it and the child will know the parents won't accept it. Now if the parents are using the bad language a lot and the child is hearing it all the time, they'll usually do what they know, especially from their most important teacher.

I'm actually just watching this.

I can't see a problem.tbh.

The dad had zero relationship with the dd something had to be done. She's 18m old not a baby I don't understand why the crying is seen as such a big deal. didn't last long and long term its far healthier fir all of them. carrying around a toddler all day is just ridiculous I'd not have waited any longer for her to just decide she wasn't going to be carried any more

the couple seem nice people and they haven't got long time wise to wait fir more softly softly approaches that haven't yet worked to finally kick in.

I caught it yesterday, had to turn off. The dad did my nut in "he's fine for me, we just play together and joke".
Yes dear,meanwhile mum has to do the daily wrestle into clothes etc.
Had to turn it off. The nanny was so patronising, too.

Shame you didn't watch it all, you'd have seen a really happy family by the end of the programme and nothing like the mess they were in at the start.

In what way do you think she was she patronising ?

She did have a it of a "rolled eye" tone I have to admit but hey she solved the problems so she could say and do what she wants Imo

I think too many people are too afraid of kids crying. IMHO I think short term upset is far less damaging than having no relationship with dad's or extended family as they can't be left.

I agree Giles, people do seem to do anything to avoid a child crying.

I can't see how it's helpful to let it continue. when they go to pre school/nursery/school there will be many other children. unless their need is medical or instant or they are a tiny tiny baby they really do need to learn to cope with sharing people and waiting to be dealt with and that they can't spend entire days on someone's lap or hip.

Giles, could not agree more with your point about parents being afraid of children crying. I often give advice at work to parents of under 5s about reducing screen time or removing dummy or whatever and often the response is 'oh I can't do that -he'll cry!' Yes, yes he probably will but you'll handle it because you're the adult, right?!

kids will always find something to cry about right

you either let them get on with it or you find yourself adding to lists of more and more ridiculous or restrictive behaviours/processes in order to juts get out the door.

Red socks. then it becomes red socks and a teddy. then red socks and a teddy becomes red socks a teddy and stroking the neighbours cat. then red socks teddy stroking cat picking a daisy off the grass etc.

Before you know it half the cuddly toy stash is making its way into the car and there are more clothes on the bedroom floor than in the drawers.

I agree Giles It's not a popular theory tho that dc tantrum because they just do.
It is stupid how people allow their children to make their routines so long winded, and how frightened some people seem of their own children pulling a baby face if they draw the line as an adult.
The worst thing for me was the feeling that I was cruel if I was around a friend or in public and my toddler would kick off because I couldn't even bring myself to fake it that I believed there was something really wrong that needed me to fix it, but people (who I know) are shocked if you don't try. People go into desperate sing song voice mode or start trying to offer things I'm embarrassed for them. I would say 'its just a paddy' but the outpouring of sympathy was enough to guarantee one every time we left the house.

I'm well versed in the under the arm squirming tantrum in toddler manoever.

honestly with some toddlers you breath wrong and they flip out. It's pointless trying.

they Learn pretty quickly and you have a lovely child after.

until about age 7.....

Nothing wrong with mum and dads being kind to their little ones, They are mum and dad and not sgt majors. You seem to have forgot that the Nanny was a stranger to the little children. It was a channel 4 project that most parents would have turned down. Is there no such thing as "private life" any more?

Well, the 'stranger' managed to get the family on a more even keel, the boy to stop hitting his sister, the dad interacting with his daughter, the little girl off her mum's hip and the whole family much happier. I'd say she was very kind indeed .

Absolutely agree about being kind to little ones. But how is it kind to allow a 3 year old to continue spitting, swearing and hitting and refusing to get dressed every morning? A 3 year old who is due to start attending nursery in a few months time

I don't get your point about her being a stranger. The parents were clueless about how to make the situation better so needed professional help

I didn't really like her tbh. I thought that the majority of issues in the family could have been dealt with more slowly and gently. Not if you want to make a programme out of it, but just in normal life.

In my house something like biting and hitting is dealt with firmly, but I didn't like the way she manhandled the DS. I felt that it would have been better coming from his mum. She was a stranger after all and I found it quite intimidating for the child and upsetting to watch.

I also didn't like the idea of punishing the little girl for wanting to be with her mum. I think it would have been confusing and unnecessarily upsetting for her after a lifetime of being on her mum's hip.

I agree that the parents seemed a bit clueless in their own way. I think the mum was just overwhelmed and the dad seemed oblivious to the reality of day to day life with two little ones at home.

TravellingLemon, I agree with you that it would have all been much better coming from mum, but mum just couldn't do it. She couldn't even manage a stern serious voice when her son was hitting her. So she needed the nanny to show her how to handle his behaviour.

I agree with you about the 18 month old - putting her on the step alone to have a good scream was really inappropriate. She should have been allowed to stay near mummy, but off her hip.