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Humans - Tonight (Sun) @ 9pm on Ch 4

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Valsoldknickers · 14/06/2015 10:31

OK, after freaking the bejaysus out of me with the weird trailer / advert I am intrigued and looking forward to giving this programme a viewing.

(I will have to record and watch later as I will be watching Messrs Strange and Norrell.)

Anyone else looking forward to it and hoping it lives up to the hype?

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038THETA · 21/06/2015 23:15

or dinosaurs?
channel 4 really dont have much imagination!

messyisthenewtidy · 21/06/2015 23:16

Is it weird that after watching it I become a big robot like and mechanical and start walking in a straight line Hmm?

Italiangreyhound · 21/06/2015 23:48

Rummikub you said....Then humans will become subservient?

That is exactly what happened in The Matrix!

Italiangreyhound · 21/06/2015 23:54

mistymeanour Re ...wondered if it was more of an allegory about all the people (and recent arrivals) who do the jobs we are told "no one wants to do". Do the well off see them as not being the same as them,dehumanise them and not consider that they have feelings and past trauma?

I think programms about robots who are like humans are often about how we see ourselves. Data in Star Trek doesn't look exactly human but he is shown learning human emotions and Sonny in iRobot is shown learning human emotions too.

Italiangreyhound · 21/06/2015 23:57

OhYouBadBadKitten re Wonder what was going on with the half human half synth hint with Leo. that's another nod to iRobot because Will Smith had a robotic arm in it, isn't it!

Timri · 22/06/2015 02:47

Agree with PPs who said it's very much like Black Mirror (which I loved), that's the first thing that came to me when seeing trailer, and what made me want to watch it.

I think it's going to have similar themes to Black Mirror, especially the Christmas one, where they had the clone things in the eggs, and they didn't realise they weren't real, and the one where they had the punishment theme park where the woman couldn't remember what she'd done.

So looking at human cruelty, is it acceptable to tray them in demeaning ways because they're not 'real', looking at issues such as paranoia (the wife, although she is right, Anita will make her look crazy, a bit hand that rocks the cradle-esqe) but also examining human compassion (man who wants memories of his wife).

I'm enjoying it so far, I hope it doesn't get too mental, and goes with subtle and thought provoking themes

Nameforsexboard · 23/06/2015 20:17

Just watched episdoe 2. Im wonderung where its going to go, yes the sex synth killing and usingnthe hand!

MadeMan · 23/06/2015 20:31

I hope it doesn't end up all being a dream inside a snow globe or something.

Furball · 24/06/2015 09:11

Watched episode 1 last night and thought it was really good, will watch 2 tonight.

I've not seen any of the similar progs/films mentioned so can't compare type of thing.

Just googled it and 'jen' only had a baby 4 weeks before filming

trills - I'm on google chrome and have the cast button on the top bar on my page, so cast the whole pc screen rather than the 4od programme. But blooming heck to all the ads on 4od.......grr. They've unfortunately woken up to ad blocker

mrs2cats · 24/06/2015 13:22

I've just recently seen the film 'Ex Machina' which is about Artificial Intelligence. Made me think about how much of our information is available and whether it can be used to create AI.
I found this an interesting article
www.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/movies/alex-garland-of-ex-machina-talks-about-artificial-intelligence.html?_r=0

TheLastPickleInTheJar · 24/06/2015 14:02

It also reminds me of the Black Mirror episode where the grieving wife ordered a 'replacement' of her husband. It's that look-human, act-human but not-quite-human thing.

Usernamesarehard · 25/06/2015 08:51

So we were right about the murder and the hand!!

My newest theory is that synths start off as humans.

Italiangreyhound · 25/06/2015 09:35

mrs2cats I really want to see 'Ex Machina', but the DVD is a tenner so I will wait until it comes round on telly.

Re the article....

"So I was dismayed when after submitting the script, I discovered I wasn’t alone in writing an A.I. movie. There was “Her” (2013), which tracked a love affair between a man and his computer’s sentient operating system. Next was “Transcendence,” in which Johnny Depp uploaded his mind to the Internet. In “Automata” and “Chappie,” servile robots acquired independence. In “Big Hero 6,” an A.I. befriends a boy. And in “Avengers: Age of Ultron,” out next week, a robot tries what we all know they’re secretly planning: the destruction of mankind.

Among filmmakers there was an A.I. party going on, to which we were late. Worse yet, someone else had shown up in the same dress. Another film had freakish similarities to “Ex Machina.” It was called “The Machine” and also starred a female-presenting A.I. named Ava."

Aside from the fact AI was the most depressing film I have ever watched it is interesting that all (almost all) of the films mentioned are about men, sometimes with a 'female' robot, who sometimes becomes a love interest. A bit like dear old Ridley Scott's Blade Runner. So our obsession with machines seem to be less 'our' obsession and more men's obsession and sometimes that obsession spills over into making machine's in 'female' image.

Which is, of course the great strength of 'Humans' because the really key figures we are almost all talking about are the female robots, one the archetypal mum and home maker and one the sex object. Not sure what it all means except that maybe men are a bit predicable! And that it seems to work well to have female characters who can be bossed around and objectified and no one seems to mind, except dear old Leo, who we almost want to view as a robot because of his associate with them (or at least I do, not sure what was going on in the loo there with the electric current in his leg!).

Timri Black Mirror just sounds awful, so glad I missed it! Wink

TheLastPickleInTheJar · 25/06/2015 10:26

usernamesarehard that's what i thought right from the beginning.

TheLastPickleInTheJar · 25/06/2015 10:26

usernamesarehard that's what i thought right from the beginning.

BlueKarou · 25/06/2015 11:06

My newest theory is that synths start off as humans.

Yes! They have to; what with the weird 'memories', and the fact that they all look different. If they were mass manufactured then it'd be like cars with say a dozen models, rather than each one looking different.

Also totally agree with those likening it to Black Mirror - a fantastic series.

Definitely looking forward to next week.

Rollergirl1 · 25/06/2015 12:52

Just watched the 2nd episode of this and thought it was really good.

So William Hurt's character obviously had something to do with the design of the synth's which would explain how he seems to know how to fix his old synth. I wonder if he is the "father" that the rogue synths have been talking about?

EmNetta · 25/06/2015 13:07

Of course, Rollergirl, and probably started synth-making to replace /improve his wife as she aged...

MadeMan · 25/06/2015 18:06

"My newest theory is that synths start off as humans."

I think the Cybermen in Doctor Who started off as humans too.

CremeBrulee · 25/06/2015 18:22

My theory is the normal synths are just plastic but the rogue group were humans who died in tragic circumstances (like Anita drowning after a car accident) and were brought back to life by the 'father' figure. Leo isn't a full synth as wasn't dead but needed a heart transplant so is now powered by electricity.

MadeMan · 25/06/2015 20:16

"so is now powered by electricity."

Like the Duracell bunny.

Usernamesarehard · 26/06/2015 03:47

Yes!!
I'm still finding the series to be quite slow paced.. Will still watch but it's missing something..

Housemum · 26/06/2015 22:31

When the robot in the poly tunnel in episode 1 said he couldn't lie, was I the only one saying smeeeegggg-hhhgeeeaaadddd like Creighton? (Red dwarf)

MsInterpret · 27/06/2015 23:01

Just caught up with ep2 this eve and thought it was a lot better than ep 1.

Still slow though.

What did the blonde synth remove from her neck covered in blue 'blood'/slime before leaving the club? Some kind of monitoring chip?

Italiangreyhound · 28/06/2015 17:43

it's on again tonight!!!!..... so excited, I love it!