Game of Thrones series 5 - winter is here!

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As the last thread was full...

just pitching in as I've finally seen season finale and need to talk about things with folk. :-) My facebook chums havent all seen everything, so this seems like the best place!

the last few episodes have been very exciting with big set pieces (white walkers vs wildings/nights watch) and shireens unexpected and harrowing death. The season finale annoyed me for overindulging in cliffhangers Theon & Sansa dead or not dead? Stannis Dead or not dead? brienne? dead? Jon snow, dead for a bit or not dead or dead for a very long time?

|Jon Snow, I am in absolute denial that JS is dead , prefering the warg/ghost/red woman theories. My son cosplays as Jon snow. so my household has been immersed in theory - Although Kit has said he isnt back next season, that doesn’t mean he won't be coming back and although I'd read the books and knew that he 'died' I found the telly depiction very harrowing. bastard traitor crows.

Cersei, I just bloody love. she held her head high and got on with it. Lena hadley was amazing (as was her body double) and I wouldn’t want to be on her shit-list. I am looking forwards to whatever she does in revenge.

Theon, I knew Theon was in there somewhere and a very gratifying 'splat' for Ramsey Snows archery woman.

Going to read back now. I imagine you've alreday all raised my points and many more. :-)

I don't think she can expect to drop a ring in the middle of nowhere and expect ser Jorah to find it. I think its symbolic and plays into the Sansa player vs pawn theme, Dany isn't waiting to be rescued by Drogon or her suitors she is getting ready to face the dothraki and that ring wont be helpful to her as a former Khalessi.

"The dragon was a bit weedy I thought."

He's not much more than a baby though! He'll toughen up as he grows.

True, Zakken. I did admit I was possibly being unfair

But if Dany is Dothrakiing around, there's no one to feed/free the other two. Imagine Tyrion & Varys, "A city to govern, Slavers' Bay in uproar, 9 thousand Unsullied, the mad Harpy lot to subdue and now we have to deal with her puberty-enraged fire-belching dragons?"

Widows of khals are all supposed to go live in the ... shit, what was it called? Too long since I read that book. She did not want to stay there and grow old with all those widows. I'm guessing the dropped ring would identify her to the dothraki and they'd cart her off to that place. If anyone who's read the books can explain that better for me, feel free!

The dosh khaleen?

Well, according to the showrunners Dany drops the ring because "she's smart and that ring is a sort of breadcrumb that's going to point in the direction that she is being taken and somebody down the line hopefully who means her less harm than the Dothraki will notice."

See I assumed she dropped the ring because she didn't want to be identified as a widowed khalessi and end up being carted to the dothraki city (vaes dothraki?) to live out the rest of her days with rest of the widows. I seem to remember her making quite a big deal out of the fact that she would not end up like them.

I didn't think it was her wedding ring. I was sure she wore it before she was married, and I think it was on her right hand.

Here's a thought that occurred to me today as I was invigilating an exam...

Is something going to happen when the Night's Watch burn Jon Snurr's body? Re: R+L=J, or old Misty Bits and Azor Ahai?

See I assumed she dropped the ring because she didn't want to be identified as a widowed khalessi

Well, TBH, she's pretty identifiable isn't she? There aren't many platinum haired, mother of dragons are out there.

I watched the Sansa bits, muttering to myself "ffs girl, stop waiting for someone tto rescue you and eescape! Run!"

I don't think sStannis Iis dead.

And Dany? Her face just seemed to show an eexpression of "aAw, bollocks, not all this again. Back to the horse gangs again"

The best out-of-context edit I have ever seen

and yy, give poor Drogo a break. He is only used to fighting sheep!

Drogon!

I agree. He needs to be trained in killing people and fighting in battles.
How was he to guess people would throw spears at him?

Exactly

Definitly a breadcrumb, like Marry and/or Pipin dropping an Elven-made cloak brooch.

That's brilliant charity. Though terrifying to think what can be done with a bit of careful editing.

I'll never scoff at those disgruntled rejects from Big Brother ever again.

But it also shows how abusive people can present themselves to others who only see what happens outside their homes...

Finally got round to watching (avoiding spoilers and this thread!) and here’s what I thought:

After a slow season, it really picked up the pace but felt like they were leaving lots of cliffhangers.

Jon Snow – noooo, I knew he was a goner when Olly called him to come out, but where was Ghost?! Maybe they did lock him away but think that should have been showed. I think if in the books his last word was “Ghost” and it wasn’t in the series, then I don’t think that will be part of the storyline. Agree it may be the Red Witch that brings him back, or maybe he is just gone for good…

Stannis – thought it was a bit silly that every one else was dead and he somehow was still alive. Normally GoT is not that predictable…we didn’t see him die and I think that means he is still alive as they are never normally shy of showing gory deaths, and thought they might relish showing his after what he has done. If he is still alive, then why would Brienne spare him?

Dany – I thought she got rid of the ring as it showed she was wealthy/important and she wanted to appear a nobody, at that point did she know who was approaching (as I didn’t work out they were Dothraki). She’ll be okay, but how far away is she?! The landscape looked very green – didn’t seem like Dothraki country.

Sansa and Theon – I cheered when Theon “came back” and got rid of Miranda! Think they will be okay as it was deep snow and they gave each other a look of “yes lets jump, we can do this”.

Cheered too when Arya attacked Meryn! Nasty old paedo…not sure what is going to happen to her and found that whole stripping away the masks creepy.

Cersei looked hot, body double or not. I actually felt a bit sorry for her and thought the scene was really long but I suppose it was to show her complete humiliation. Where the hell is Tommen though?! Why is he not doing anything about any of this – he is the king ffs! Cersei will sort it out for herself though with the help of the Mountain.

Marcella – barely even noticed her death tbh, she is not a major character in herself but what she represents in terms of the prophecy and how Cersei will blame Jaime is important, and also how it affects relations with Dorne.

Arrrgh, the memory of that episode is almost fading, that's it for another year isn't it? What am I going to do with my time!
Actually I have started obsessing about Penny Dreadful, and True Detective will be on soon, so I guess all is not lost...

Hello everyone, new here. I have just spent the last two months avidly watching the GOT series 1 to 4 box set. I love it! I haven't seen series 5 yet, just saw the last episode of series 4 today, but I am an impatient sort and have read thr spoilers.

So, during s4 ep10, the men at the wall are burning the bodies of the men killed at the battle. Stannis and Davos had arrived previously. Jon Snow sees Melisadre through the flames and she gives him a significant look. Could this be foretelling her role in his ressurection? or during series 5, were there any other significant scenes between them? (during s4 ep8 there was a scene with Mel and Selyse, discussing whether to bring Shireen to the wall, flames in the foreground).

Anyone else think that Gendry will be back?

I also think Sansa & Thon will survive. They seemed relatively confident about jumping from that spot. So I reckon either the snow will be deep enough or, having grown up in Winterfell, they know something about that particular spot - like it was where Rickon's trampoline was kept or something.

I hope it's not too spoilerish to say that in the last book Stannis' death is reported in a letter but it's not clear if the sender is being truthful. So I wonder if it's important to the plot to have Stannis as a bit of a Schrödinger's Cat at the moment!

Sansa & Theon*