TENNIS Thread! The French Open is coming- will it be #RG10 for Rafa?

[Raahh]

or number 1 for Djokovic?

given recent form, things look less than great for Nadal-but he likes the big stage and slams are a different beast to other tournaments.

So- new thread to talk ( mostly) about tennis- though it's not compulsory., and we all have different favourites and respect that others might not love our favourites as much as we do.

so...a week to go. May Murray be less tired, Rafa more confident , and a happy tournament be had by all.

Vamos

Obviously I meant neither will forget that match in a hurry.

Oops.

I don't understand football. and dd2 has nicked my laptop, so I'm posting on my new phone. that I cannot work properly.

and my dryer has just gone kaput.

you can tell it's the holidays.

I don't know anything about footie. MrsV, hope things improve for you. You can rant here if it helps.

I'm out of step with you all - a Castle fan (although I am very selective as to who I share that info with) and a Djok fan. Maybe it's my age?

Tsonga romping through.

I think it is time Djokovic lost in the early rounds to someone relatively unknown. it's his turn .

won't happen though, but would shake things up a bit.

Selling Harry for a large sum this summer is inevitable, MrsV. Levy's got the £ signs in his eyes already, I bet.

Tonga's breezed tnrough the first two sets 6-1, 6-2. Ivanovic has lost the first set but is 4-1 up in the second.

And my scores page keeps crashing, whichnis mildly annoying.

Thanks, Rafa. I like Tsonga. Blardy Levy should bog off, I think we hate him just as much as the Liverpool fans dislike Rodgers and Newcastle hate Ashley !

Raahh That is a lovely thought. Stranger things have happened, but can't see it, unfortunately. Then people would say Rafa only won cos he went out.

No point ranting, Juan, it wont change anything. Just having to fight and try to wade through nonsense that is not fit for purpose. I have to try to be chipper, cos if I start to rant or cry I don't know if I'd stop.

Its just all really crap and really unfair and it wouldn't be so bad if it made sense, you know ? Doesn't help when people 'in the know' also express how utterly ridiculous everything we are going through is, how nonsensical and how we have been treated unreasonably and harshly.

Also doesn't help when you have a lead Consultant who appears to waffle the same twaddle at every meeting and who seems to be hoping doing everything but the recommended treatment will magically make everything better.

That, combined with having to explain our situation to several people a day is becoming very wearing.

Someone kick me, quick. Ffs. What a whinger I am.

It sounds like you have good reason to whinge MrsV. Not that I think you were. Can you either change consultant or impress upon him/her your dissatisfaction? Dh has a chronic illness and is now in the happy position of having a consultant who he respects, likes and trusts. The feeling is reciprocated and it has honestly made the world of difference. He has had to spend a lot of time over the years though arguing and having to demonstrate to many docs that, though he may not be a medic, he is an intelligent man with an opinion which should be heard and respected. The man he has now is amazing but there have been many of the old school "I-am-God" types, and just as many of the "young- whippersnapper-I-know-everything" types.

Anyway, whatever you're going through very best wishes. And rant/whinge away if it helps.

Juan

Funny you should say that re the 'I am God' consultant ! I told DH off this morning when he finally told me he is unhappy about his Cons latest suggestion, and told him he should have spoken up when we saw the Cons on Friday.

I've told DH to ring and express his dissatisfaction and ask for a second/third/fourth opinion....

DH Cons really does seem to think his word is gospel, but he's been spouting the same nonsense since last September, and actually admitted on Friday that at the last meeting in January he had misunderstood DH which was why he sent DH for a treatment that was never going to work.

DH having finally admitted he feels like he's just being brushed off, helps, but it does fall to me to nag him now to ask for other/better help from others if necessary.

Never mind all the other crap that goes with it.

Very. Frustrating.

Oh it is very frustrating, I completely get it. What ever makes some of them think that their time is more important than your time? And that your opinions are not valid? Obviously they are the ones with the specialist knowledge but that doesn't make them infallible. Dh has spent long periods in hospital over the years. On one such occasion two large hospitals had amalgamated, and every Monday there was a new consultant in charge. There were so many that dh never saw the same one twice. Nine out of ten of them had no idea of dh's circumstances, which since they were complicated and involved, took some time to explain every week. And then invariably every week there would be conflicting advice - eg, drink more/you're drinking too much, take this tab/don't on any account take this tab etc. It was so incredibly frustrating and seemed to demonstrate to us that the medics had neither take the time to read up about dh, nor cared.

And also (sorry - on hobby horse now!) tell your dh to question orders if he's unsure. There have been at least 3 occasions which spring to mind where if dh had done as told by a doc he would be dead now - honestly, I'm not exaggerating. Dh is in the lucky position of knowing a lot about his condition, and of having the type of personality that doesn't blindly follow orders but rather questions them. Me - I'd be saying "yes doctor, of course" (despite my own df being a consultant) and would probably have popped my clogs as a result. Any good doctor will encourage you to ask, won't be offended and will listen.

Massive apologies for derail and big rant but this is something I feel so strongly about.

Bless you, Juan. You've got it spot on.

Don't think DHs Cons will take kindly to him asking for another opinion, but hey ho. He was very rude and dismissive to me too, until he thought we had deferred to his superiority and he apologised as we left. I refused to shake his hand. Git.

I don't think DH has got any option but to question orders, as it could have huge ramifications for him/us if things don't go the way we expect them to.

We have made plans to follow orders but I suppose DH would be allowed to suspend plans until a second opinion has been sought ?

Rant away, lovely. Raahh does say in her op that this thread is for mostly tennis talk.

You've managed to make me feel we/I are not being unreasonable to question the Cons judgement, so heartfelt thanks. Very much appreciated.

No such thing as derailing the tennis thread.

So long as we manage to get a few results in, the rest of the time we talk about pretty much anything.

for everyone who is going through rough times.

No need to thank me and you and your dh are absolutely NOT being unreasonable - this is your life and your future these people are gambling with. Your current consultant shouldn't have any qualms about second opinions at all (unless time is of the essence, and even then, if you want one, he should help expedite it) as, in theory, he should welcome another opinion and not feel threatened - esp if the advice he is giving you is the correct advice. Definitely get a 2nd opinion if you are the least bit unsure. It will delay things inevitably but if you can spare the time then do it.

I feel I should say at this point that I think the nhs is amazing and certainly my dh wouldn't be here without it so we will forever be grateful. His current consultant and the nurse who he has the most dealings with are wonderful dedicated people who I can't praise highly enough. But they're not all the same.

I really hope you can work this out MrsV - I will be thinking of you and your family.

In the past dh has refused to let a particular surgeon near him, having suffered at his hands previously.

Thanks for all your advice, Juan, its really helped. I've read it out to DH who has also realised he shouldn't feel bad about asking for someone else's opinion/take on his care/treatment.

I've also got to say that the NHS is fantastic, and the initial days and weeks of DHs care was brilliant. It seems it is only since it passed solely to this current guy its gone a bit flat.

I dread to think where DH would be, had his initial care not been so outstanding.

I just frightened him by asking if he would be happy for his Cons to perform surgery on him.

I guess it can't hurt to ask for another opinion.

Lots of calls to make this week !

Sorry for derail, Raahh.

I thought Rafa was playing tomorrow, but his first match is Tuesday, isn't it ?

More all day tennis tomorrow though so not complaining.

I'll come and say hello, hopefully some of you will be around ?

Did you say your DCs have 2 weeks off, Raahh ? I thought it was only 1 this half term ?

Oi, MrsV- no need to apologise.

The dds are still in primary (well, dd2 is nursery), they get 2. Ds gets 1. then in the summer the dds get 5, and ds gets 6.

It's making my head hurt.

You're more than welcome MrsV, really no need for thanks. Good luck this week.

Hope to watch some tennis tomorrow and Tues, but off to Wales on Wed to Friday - will be scattering df's ashes on Thursday :(

Rog not very happy apparently about the young lad getting onto the court at the end of his match. Do you remember year before last when some flares were let off and some bloke got on Court when Rafa was playing?

Raahh ooh, that's annoying.

Juan I'll be thinking of you, lovely. ((((hugs))))

That was pretty shocking with Roger though, and the lad wasn't a little kid, who didn't seem bothered that its not the right way to get a photo. Rude and potentially dangerous, if its that easy to get to a player, especially on PC.

There's always some sort of problem. You'd think the public would know how to behave properly and with respect.

Not fair on the players. Must be unnerving.

Even though it is a long time ago- the Monica Seles incident must still haunt a lot of players. It was horrible- and when players see random people on court, it must be quite scary.

The security does seem lax- despite claims to the contrary. I'm not surprised Fed was annoyed, really.

Oh Juan . Thinking of you too.

Doesn't bear thinking about, Raahh.

Perhaps they're not able to do much about the security because of the way the court was built.

I'd imagine the new court will have a better system in place.

Although you would think they have staff to prevent people getting on to court ?

I completely get Roger's anger. They made it sound like "poor kid just wanted a selfie" but I don't think you can be flippant about it.

If he wanted a selfie (grrr I hate selfies) then he should have waited, with everyone else. I'm sure Fed, as much as anyone, appreciates his fans. But you can never be too careful.

Quite agree, Raahh.

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MrsV - My late Dad was also a consultant & he was always happy for someone to get another opinion - he always said that there were many different treatments available & everyone had a view that should be heard & weighed up.

And, on a lesser note, I am 100% with you with the no love for Rosberg & Novak.

Especially Rosberg - what a slimy little git he is!

Juan - sorry to hear about the sad trip to Wales - I hope the sun shines as you scatter the ashes and that you feel better for that happening. When I scattered my Mum's ashes I remember feeling a certain finality, which was so sad but also good by that stage of things.

Will be thinking of you.
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Thank you, magi, that's reassuring.

That F1 was horribly 'convenient' today, wasn't it ? Wtf were Mercedes thinking, Lewis didn't actually need to come in to pit. Surely also at that late stage the 1-2 was better and more important for the team ?

Its almost like someone didn't want Lewis anyone to have a reasonable lead in the drivers standings.

It was that slimy sods 'whooping' as he finished too, can't say win, because he didn't.

The man just cannot 'do' gracious either, can he ? "Er, I was lucky today, Lewis was better all weekend but that's racing".

No, Nico. Lewis IS better, full stop. Because Lewis is a racing driver. Not an arrogant sod who thinks he's good because his Daddy was.