Game of thrones season 5!!!9 sleeps!

[fireandblood]

Anyone else counting down the days! I actually get nervous thinking about it. I have re watched all series and reading the books to pass the time.

Can't wait to see what they do with Sansa and Tyrion this series. And will we see the hound again and lady stone heart?

You're welcome. I think he's really sweet here when Robert sends him for the Game Of Thrones equivalent of "the long stand"

One thing it does do is spoil that Sansa and Tyrion are unlikely to meet again in the books. Just like when Barristan was killed off. He wouldn't have been if he'd had an important future role mapped out by GRRM.

I'm new to this thread (I've been reading chunks of it this week). I read the books also and noticing how much it departs from those, I wondered if they have the heads up from G Martin (is he involved with the series) as they're changing so much, they must know what he has planned for the characters and what can be changed?

One thing it does do is spoil that Sansa and Tyrion are unlikely to meet again in the books. Just like when Barristan was killed off. He wouldn't have been if he'd had an important future role mapped out by GRRM

Yeah, not sure about this. I mean, Sansa's story in the books is obviously heading in a different direction, given that she's nowhere near Winterfell and Ramsey is married to / abusing another girl. I don't think we can say with any great certainty that she won't cross paths with Tyrion again. I suspect they will both be around for the endgame, one way or another.

Equally, Ser Barristan may yet have a role to play in GRRM's narrative. The show and the books are different entities at this point. GRRM has apparently told the showrunners more or less how he plans to end the series, but how they get there is (I think) largely up to them now.

I like this, because I can enjoy the show without worrying it will spoil the books for me!

I don't see why Sansa marrying someone else would necessitate that she and Tyrion never see each other again.

Ser Barristan was the part resonated with me.

I still think (predict) Sansa and Tyrion meeting again and resuming, or rather beginning afresh, their marriage.

Interesting to see where it's going though

Just watched it, good episode. Looking forward to cersei getting her comeuppance soon!

Excellent post Annarose, agree 100%. Maybe the writers have realised there's not been as much tits compared to earlier seasons now the brothels have closed, so had to make up for it

The Dorne scenes have been pretty underwhelming imo. The jail scene was farcical.

Much as I love Bronn, I hope we'll be spared any more Carry On Up & Down The Sand Dunes.

The Water Gardens look lovely but the Myrcella scene was daft. Come to the Dorne Water Gardens with their conveniently located central pavilion for all your princess kidnapping and/or rescuing needs. Garish robes with matching head covering provided. Bring your own weapons.

Annarose Oh, no. Hope they are continuing with Arya's plotline as major badass Stark-girl. Although she is becoming more mature/sexual in Winds of Winter. I do not mind the show deviating from the books (and using Saint Tyrion and Sensible Cersei), but please, don't ruin Arya as they did with Jaime.
Barristan's death is widely expected in the books as well, as his arc is complete. Or so people think.
Book-readers! You have an idea what else is coming. Do you think the show-runners will finish this season as bleak as it looks now? I mean by the end of book 5 nearly all major (book) character is in major peril or AWOL. Surely they need to give us a glint of hope at least on tv? Am I clutching at straws now?

Well they've changed things so much its getting impossible to tell. Sansa's story has been completely changed, and Tyrion, and Jorahs. So God knows, tbh.

Whereas the Kings Landing stuff is fairly true to book. But that storyline is rapidly getting to the end of the written material so after a couple of more episodes bookreaders will be as none the wiser as everyone else.

Re: Tyrion/Sansa. What I meant was that plainly their marriage is not relevant to the endgame of the whole thing. They're obviously not going to meet up again and have a kid or anything, as their marriage is now finished. Sansa has married someone else.

So if they meet again in the TV series it'll be as two unmarried people, surely? And since there was nothing between them except a bit of mutual politeness, I don't see why they need to meet at all.

It does seem really odd that GRRM married two people just to abandon the plan a couple of chapters later, and there has been speculation amongst bookreaders that since their marriage still stands in the books, it may show its relevance at a later date. But since the TV show threw it away so easily, I doubt that now. I guess it was just a bit of dramatic filler.

I can't believe Sansa would have really married Ramsay. Little John hints at some kind of revenge she can have of she marries and so she relents If I remember rightly.

I've gone a bit Robin Hood there Littlefinger not Little John!

Actually I think Lord Bolton say "I'll take your word for it" or something?

In the books it would still have to be officially annulled. Tyrions childhood marriage was officially annuled by Tywin and the High Septon and it was only because of that he was free to marry Sansa. You can't just say, well I feel like not being married anymore so lets just say we never did it and arrange another marriage for tomorrow!

But thats TV for you, I guess!

Just caught up with the last two episodes.

On the Sansa bath/hairwash - I connected it to the scene with Arya washing the hair of the corpse. The exact same squeezing out water into a bowl, and these two events pretty much bookended the episode. I hope it's not a foreshadowing for Sansa...

Oh shit.

Good spot lovereading

Whoa...that is some scary foreshadowing, if so.

Aren't they assuming that Tyrion is dead or something?

But I don't see how a little bigamy would bother the Boltons that much.

They wouldn't be assuming that Tyrion is dead. Cersei is paying a bounty on dwarf heads in the hope of getting irrevocable proof that Tyrion is indeed dead.

I am mid way through season 3 and have a question.

A few times I have felt like giving up watching, because it's so dark. Not dark as in story-line dark, (well it is that of course), but dark as in I can't flipping see it half the time, especially when it involves anything in the 'North'.
The lighting is terrible.
The second last episode of Season 3 (ships invading), I had to have the subtitles on - the screen was pitch black most of the time.

I'm persevering at the moment, because I'm hoping that by the time I get to Season 4, the producers will have realized that they need to use better lighting. (thinking of Jamaica Inn and the complaints that had)
I don't care about it looking authentic and 'atmospheric' , or whatever, I just want to be able to SEE it.

Does it improve?

Second last episode of Season 2 (ships invading)

I don't have an issue with this, so I wonder if the settings on your actual TV are too dark? Do you know how to play around with them?

They just assume Cersei is too far to have any power in the North and Tyrion is as good as dead.

Never thought of that Saga. Off for a play around. Thanks.

We've been finding the darkness a particular problem for the current series, watching on an iPad. Driving us nuts!

Not just me then.