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The Missing BBC1- thread 2

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EauRouge · 27/11/2014 14:18

Original thread here, disappearing scarves, grey-haired doppelgängers and twin theories abound. Has anyone done a spreadsheet yet?

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LineRunner · 30/11/2014 22:50

Yy, it was very 'out damn spot'.

I wonder why when Emily and Tony spoke on the phone just after, she didn't tell Tony that Mary Garrett had called her 'Mrs Hughes' without being told her name. All she really said was that Mary practically threw her out.

CrapBag · 30/11/2014 22:53

Sinking the boat crossed my mind too. I think its the only plausible explanation given we know Ian has been missing and presumed dead in the present day. I wonder what will happen to the tapes?

I agree that Mary knowing Ian is a paedophile and turning a blind eye is what made her break down?

I thought the mistake comment regarding Mollie meant her being born but I'm not sure that will be the case.

I want to know how Tony knew Ian was a murderer as well. Was that actually on the tape?!

Wellthatsit · 30/11/2014 22:59

Crapbag, I think you have nailed it re Mary and Mollie.

Tony has also sunk the boat.

Also agree the hoteliers are likely suspects now...

Ohmygrood · 30/11/2014 23:01

Maybe the tapes will be destroyed in the process of tony covering up his own crime, but by doing so he loses his chance to find ollie?

BelleateSebastian · 30/11/2014 23:10

im thinking the hoteliers too Wink

CrapBag · 30/11/2014 23:11

I genuinely don't think Ian had anything to do with Ollie and wouldn't be on the tapes.

Wellthat'sit what have I nailed? Xmas Smile

AuntieStella · 30/11/2014 23:17

Oh yes, we still don't know anything about Tony's busy job, or anything about his life before 2006, so it is possible he would know how to scuttle a boat. But he wouldn't know how deep the water was near the mooring so how would he know where it would be safely deep enough to do so? And how would he get back ashore? Dingy? Would he have to hide/burn it? And what about getting back to his car?

ArsenicSoup · 30/11/2014 23:25

And how would he get back ashore? Dingy? Would he have to hide/burn it? And what about getting back to his car?

He'd have needed help from someone else.

Might explain what Malik said to Emily.

CrapBag · 30/11/2014 23:30

Oh I definitely think Emily helps Tony and that is what Malik waas referring to.

I think the guilt of that is ultimately what splits them up. Plus I think she does secretly blame Tony, she did say it in one episode.

reem1 · 01/12/2014 00:34

Well I'm starting the investigation from the different angle Grin - two people that I have always considered crystal clear are Julien and Laurence, I still can't see anything wrong with Julien but looking at Laurence now....

First thing is that she recently had a child and explained to Julien and Tony that now she felt ready to start family (maybe it's to do with Ian declared dead???) she speaks very good English - it's probably nothing but maybe she is MOLLY...... Ian always painted Molly as a little child but some photographs show her a bit older and I had impression that she run away from the house, let's say when 14 years old. Maybe Ian never even abused her but she discovered who he was and didn't want live pretend life like her mother.

With some help from friends, long distance relatives etc. etc. she ended up in France. Became policewoman to fight crime, abuse.....

Now she doesn't want contact with her parents, feels sickened by her mother covering for Ian and never wants to see them again.

Ian loves Molly and wants to find her, starts searching (maybe that's why he sympathises with Tony when he starts his search and offers money for reward). Finds Molly now Laurence and they somehow manage to rekindle their relationship (blame it all on the mother...) and Laurence starts to support Ian ( which might explain his contacts in police station) and maybe cover up for him....

Not sure what else......Grin. and how it all links to Ollie.

ArsenicSoup · 01/12/2014 06:27

Well I'm starting the investigation from the different angle

Oh goodness that sounds so professional, I'm going to have to up my game and get a notebook Grin

Laurence is Molly!? Have you got a timeline for this reem? Wink It just so happens I was wondering about the date of Molly's childhood photo when I rewatched as I was trying to work out Mary and Ian's ages. I decided early 1970s, does that sound right?

WastingMyYoungYears · 01/12/2014 07:01

I just wanted to point out that Julien seems to know that Tony killed Ian - Julien talks about regrets, and looks at Tony, who then asks What do you think I've done Julien? Julien doesn't answer.

I bloody love Julien Grin, but he clearly isn't above using people (even putting them in danger) when it suits him.

LillianGish · 01/12/2014 07:14

I'm going back to basics - Ollie was taken to that house (picture in basement, video evidence) which points to a degree of planning by a local. Romanian cleaning van man was seen outside the house the following morning (video evidence) and the basement had been cleaned (or am I remembering that wrong). Cleaning van man was see watching the search in a suspicious way - not seen since. Dodgy policeman picked something up out of drain (we don't know what and we still don't know why he is in prison). Ian is a paedophile by his own admission and seemed to be involved in some sort of ring - judging by his video collection and police links. Tony bludgeons him to death because he thinks he is involved (though don't really understand if that is the case why he didn't try to find out where Ollie was - heat of the moment, short fuse?) This is quite soon after Ollie's disappearance - he must then spend some time covering up what he has done which I presume we are going to see this week. But then something must happen ( we don't know what yet) to indicate to Tony that Ollie is still alive - otherwise why would he resume the search. Wouldn't he be worried his own crime would come to light - we know he gets away with it because Ian is missing presumed dead. Why isn't Julien wondering what happened to Ian and investigating - surely his disappearance would make him number one suspect? They've looked at Vincent again and they know his links with Ian - small child missing, known paedophile missing - churches la paedophile! We won't have all the pieces of the jigsaw until the last episode I'm sure- that what is so brilliant about this series, we keep being given different bits of the puzzle. I just hope the last piece isn't too far fetched and that all the ends tie up. Have invested so much time in this!

LillianGish · 01/12/2014 07:16

Sorry - autocorrect - that should be cherchez la paedophile!

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LineRunner · 01/12/2014 08:17

She didn't really explain the meeting to Tony, though, including Mary's bizarre persona and inconsistencies. I don't know whether it's significant or just meant to be a quirk in Emily's personality or dodgy writing.

Bakeoffcakes · 01/12/2014 08:39

BAPTISTE KLAXON

he's being interviewed on BBC1 breakfast before nine this morning.

I'll be watchingGrin

LillianGish · 01/12/2014 08:46

I think she did explain to him - obviously we didn't hear the whole conversation. What that scene shows to me is that at that point Emily was totally invested in the hunt for Ollie (travelling to England, following, leads, working with her husband) - unlike in the present day where it seems the hunt is driven by Tony and she has given up,for a quiet life with her substitute son. I did think that made her more suspicious than him, now I think that she was convinced Ian was to blame and once Tony had murdered him (imagining we'll find out she knows about this in the next episode) and explained all his paedophile discoveries she was sure Tony had got the right man and accepted Ollie's fate (well not accepted exactly, but didn't think there was any point looking for him). Actually I find it much easier to imagine their marriage breaking up in these circumstances. I imagine her slightly wooden, weird behaviour stems not just from the loss of her son, but also having been party to that crime. If it now turns out Tony got the wrong man and Ollie might still be out there somewhere there is no wonder she is feeling and looking uncomfortable.

ArsenicSoup · 01/12/2014 08:47

Have I missed it? He is rather lovely.

Iwantacampervan · 01/12/2014 08:50

On BBC Breakfast now (8.48) - I wonder if he is doing the round of shows this weeks?

ArsenicSoup · 01/12/2014 08:52

Oh bugger, I put BBC news 24 on by mistake.

Bakeoffcakes · 01/12/2014 08:52

Oh la la!!

LineRunner · 01/12/2014 08:53

Lillian, yes, that is good thinking.

I still wonder about Malik's book being subtitled 'the ugly truth'. Will he reveal the Ian connection?

FayeFruitLoop · 01/12/2014 09:26

Maybe police chief disposes of Ian and boat after discovering what Tony has done, and knowing that if anyone discovered Ian's body, the boat or the tapes then the paedophile ring would be exposed and various town officials incriminated...

So Tony can't be done for murder because too many people don't want him to be? In case they are revealed

LillianGish · 01/12/2014 10:19

That all sounds feasible and consistent with what we've seen so far, but I still can't work out why Tony has taken up the hunt again. I keep hearing his voice saying "I've found something" in that phone call in the first episode.