GAME OF THRONES Season 4

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About a week and a half to go

Who's watching?

Some trailers to keep us going:

there were many wtabf moments esp liked the hound pounding that guys head on the dagger/sword.

NotQuiteNormalTiggaxx

yes I have to say I couldn't watch that bit .

Too many adverts as usual, it interrupts the flow of the programme too much. But, it was fab and I'm very glad it's back. Loved Arya in the pub and how she got her 'pony'.

I haven't watched any of the tv version yet but I've read the books up to the start of Book 4 and got the dvds of the rest on order to make dh watch. I've just realised it may be a disaster because he's got prosopagnosia (face blindness) so he's going to be constantly asking me who everyone is
It was good last night then, was it?

Turnip, it's hard enough to keep track of who is who when you haven't got prosopagnosia! Don't let him watch with you, it will drive you mad! .

Yes it was very good. But now I want next week to be here already.

Tunip not Turnip

I loved the episode last night, but thought Jamie's new hand could have been more functional. They could have shaped a gold fist for punching, or fixed a spike on it, like Merle in The Walking Dead. Or even better, shaped it like a playmobil man hand, so he could hold all sort of things - weapons, cups of tea, tools.

YY my we regularly pause it so DP can ask me who people are and what just happened

As we sat down last night he said "I suppose there will be a whole slew of new characters called Bryn or Brun to confuse me all over again?" (He does love the show )

a playmobil man hand

Genius.

Playmobil hand is fab idea except everything would need to be Playmobil size to fit in the hand, and while that is indeed the case in Playmobil Land, it may not be in Westeros.

Is the gold hand in the books? I haven't got to it yet, but then they've jiggled the order of a few things round, I think.

I do love the way GRRM plays with your head by making Jaime the most hated character of all in the early books and then switching to his viewpoint and sucking you in until him chucking Bran out of the window feels like no more than a minor lapse. I love him almost as much as Tyrion now.

I loved it!

I prefer Jaime's new look. I no longer have Shrek soundtrack running through my head everytime he is on screen.

I thought it was a great start to the season. DP (diehard fan of the books) was not so convinced.

I could watch a whole series of just Arya and the Hound. I love them on screen together. Rory McCann is perfectly cast in that role.

I haven't read this far in the books yet so I'm looking forward to finding out what's happening with Stannis, Davos, Gendry et al. and Theon.

somebody posted this on my FB

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Love that too Tigga

I think my favourite bit was Jaime's little wave with his golden hand.

OMG - that Ben and Holly clip is magnificent.

Zachary I think the idea is that Jaime without a well-functioning hand has lost his identity. Other people think that he defenestrated Bran with that hand, and it is eye for an eye. Not sure about that one. There are two more characters who have problems with their hands, so we see what GRRM makes of that. Alternatively Jaime could just become really good with his left hand. Goldenhand the Just!

Tunip I am useless enough with the books, DH will drive you nuts with so many characters.

Worried I'd say that the answers to some of those are a bit spoilery. I started a thread for book and TV spoilers if you're interested in asking there (or just Google).

Googled this already - as I said the wiki pages just too unlike the show hence question. I thought we knew from watching the show who has Theon I just could not work out who character is.

Sorry I thought this was the spoiler thread as I asked if this was spoiler thread and someone then posted something spoilery after that - sorry if I am confused. [why are you all chatting about episode 4 if this is not spoiler thread - (sorry if this is dense question?)]

off to repost this on spoiler thread when I find it (I did look before posting on here so maybe it is down several pages).

will try and get my above post removed in case it ruins anything for someone.

as you were.

Hi Worried, in answer to your first question (and this was in season 3, so isn't a spoiler from the book), Theon is being held by Ramsay Snow, who is Roose Bolton's bastard son. Roose is holding Theon hostage to blackmail Theon's father to withdraw his troops from the North so Roose can take over. However, Theon's dad is a bit of a prick (sorry, Theon) and has given up on Theon as he now can't father any sons, so is useless. Theon's sister (who sounds like Bob/Kate from Blackadder II) set off to rescue her baby brother at the end of S3.

Jon Snow - Ned bought him back from the war and claimed he was his, but no one knows the circumstances of his birth so there's lots of speculation (amongst the readers, everyone in GOT world accepts that he's Ned's bastard).

Thanks for this. I have the chaps name - Ramsey but who is he. I think I missed who the characters are - did we see Ramsey or his father elsewhere in the series. I could not work out when Theon went to Winterfell and took it with men from Iron islands (i.e. his own people) that turned on him? why? Are they the men that then killed everyone left at Winterfell? Why did they turn him over to House Bolton?

Just looked him up and Roose Bolton is the evil man from the red wedding. So is all this being done for House Lannistar. Not sure where the Boltons suddenly appeared from.

This is more confusing than the plantagenets!

Well, GRRM was heavily influenced by the War of the Roses apparently!

Tunip, search for haute slides game of thrones. Someone had made a map of all of the different people and which houses they belong to and how they connect. DH doesn't have insert that long word I can't remember but he is dreadful with names.
It's stopped many an argument!

The Boltons are from the North and originally were fighting on the Starks' side. Roose Bolton secretly allied with the Lannisters and helped orchestrate the Red Wedding. Ramsey is his bastard, he took Winterfell from the Ironborn (Theon's men) and took Theon captive.

Love the chart, Chopsypie!

I don't remember the bad stuff happening to Theon in the books. His sister has just appeared as a viewpoint character in book 4, though, so I look forward to her storyline.

I watched episode 1 of series 1 with dh last night. He is not yet hooked. But will be....