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Pickofthedocs · 12/02/2014 22:02

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Listmaker · 13/03/2014 12:28

I loved last night's episode but am still not sure about who's done what but am thinking that Denton definitely does have a psycho side - she was really vicious pinning that guy to the wall with the car, the whole hitting the neighbour thing and being very focused and sneaky in getting the dirt on the AC12 crew. So I think she killed Carly Cook and set Dryden up for that bit but...I am not sure she set up the ambush. Someone higher up would have to control the guys who kidnapped her etc surely? So maybe Dryden did that part.

But then if she set Dryden up for the murder of Carly Cook after following him and seeing him with her etc. she couldn't have known she was going to be moved to missing persons and would therefore be able to look into that case and so get Dryden convicted could she? Maybe she had plans to get the focus onto him in some other way before the whole ambush thing happened?

Do we think Dot is still corrupt? Did he plan the ambush?

My brain has been hurting trying to think about all that's happened after the episode last night. Up til then I really thought Denton was going to be innocent and was feeling sorry for her but now I'm sure she's not so have to rethink all the past plot twists!

Great TV though!

Icimoi · 13/03/2014 13:28

I think Hastings is basically on the side of the angels, but was tempted otherwise by the promise of promotion and the worry that his failure to reveal his financial problems would cause trouble. Hence the fact that he had to cancel the cruise because of having to do the 'right thing'.

I can't see at the moment why Cottan would have wanted to murder Tommy as he was in essence his mentor, and in fact I am wondering whether his keenness in relation to the investigation is to find out who did it, either for revenge purposes or to protect himself - as well as covering his own back especially in case anyone gets close to finding out who the caddy is. But of course the reality is that Cottan might be in the pay of whoever did murder Tommy.

I confuse myself more and more every time I try to work out what's going on with this one.

diddl · 13/03/2014 13:40

But if Tommy really was going to give evidence against the corrupt cops, that would be motive enough for Dot to be involved in Tommy's murder, wouldn't it?

Listmaker · 13/03/2014 14:06

I agree - think Hastings is basically a good guy but just really didn't want Dryden to be involved because he was willing to let him keep his position despite his financial difficulties and even offer promotion to get him out of the hole he's in. But once he realised there was no way round it he did the right thing despite knowing his own career could well be screwed now.

And yes diddl I agree that if Tommy was going to start talking Dot would be in trouble potentially? But is he smart enough/high up enough to engineer the ambush and the murder of the guy in hospital and the kidnap of Denton, the abuse in the prison. All that has to be someone with a lot of contacts and clout?

I hope it all comes clear and ends well - I don't want some rubbish ending!

diddl · 13/03/2014 14:21

It seems there's quite a network & that Dot is just a small cog...

WalkingThePlank · 13/03/2014 14:24

My take on the cat is that there was no first cat. Dryden did not ask her to get rid of a cat so that he could move in with her. He asked her to get rid of the baby so that would move in with her. He didn't say it was 'just a cat', he said it was 'just a baby'. She got a cat after the abortion but it was 'just a cat' to her. Nothing could replace the baby and that is her motivation, but not sure what for.

ZeroSomeGameThingy · 13/03/2014 14:38

Absolutely breathless after last night's episode on iPlayer.

I'm certain that at the very end of the last series Dot seemed to "talk down" to Tommy - as if, in fact, he had risen above Tommy in the evil hierarchy. From what has been shown Dot is the person with the most to gain from Tommy's death.

And I'm rather sorry that Hastings wasn't smarter. He surely should have realised that Dryden was only putting Hastings' "issues" on the back burner so that he could use him for his own good. It was never done out of kindness.

SinisterBuggyMonth · 13/03/2014 14:48

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TheWomanWithTheMysteriousLump · 13/03/2014 16:10

Oh I dunno Sinister. I think she'd get some sympathy.

"A few years ago "D"H invested our life savings in a property scheme run by a mate of his, without consulting me. The scheme turned tits up, (surprise surprise), and all the money was lost, leaving us desperately indebted. By desperately cutting back our spending and selling everything that's not nailed down we've finally crawled back into the black, but finances are still on a knife-edge. What makes it worse is that DH insists that we have to keep our financial problems completely secret, because apparently he'd be in trouble with his employers if it got out. What that means in practice is that if I get invited to do anything fun that involves money I have to make crap excuses to get out of it, while he still treats his underlings at work to expensive meals out to make it look like he's the big man.

Last week he took me out to dinner and said that he had good news - he was nailed on for a really big promotion which would finally get us back in a comfortable position. He said that he appreciated what he'd done wrong, and everything that I'd had to put up with, and wanted to make it up to me with a special holiday - he handed me a cruise brochure and told me to take my pick.

This week out of the blue, he announces that it's not going to happen, and I should forget about the cruise because apparently he's "taken a moral stand about something" which means he won't be promoted. He won't give any more details at all about what it is that he's done.

AIBU to be a) fucking incandescent and b) deeply suspicious about whether this mysterious thing that he's done that means he can't be promoted is quite as squeaky clean as he claims?

diddl · 13/03/2014 18:09

In ep 1 when the ambush happened, Denton got out of her car & someone was on the ground on fire.

Did she deliberately do nothing?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 13/03/2014 19:35

Just watched last night's episode. Yikes.

guineapiglet · 13/03/2014 19:42

Hi - didl - not sure that she deliberately did nothing, she was in total shock from what I remember having nearly been knocked out herself by the blast - she kind of stood by rather helplessly, but I do remember thinking that a trained and experienced police officer might have jumped to save and put out the flames much quicker than that - unless she was worried about a second blast, or the heat was too much, but you are right, there was hesitation, could be for legitimate reasons, but.....

guineapiglet · 13/03/2014 19:42

PS it was Akers who was burning in front of her, her colleague.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 13/03/2014 19:46

The time that Denton had a go at her noisy neighbour with a bottle was a indication she had a nasty streak. And lied her head off afterwards.

peppapigmustdie · 13/03/2014 20:07

I am loving this programme, I thought I had watched every minute but can someone tell me when Denton moved from her crappy flat with her noisy neighbour to the terraced house she was taken back to last night?

diddl · 13/03/2014 20:14

Couldn't remember if it was Akers or Tommy, thanks.

Also, why was Denton in a car by herself?

I know it's not real, but are there too many unknowns for Dryden to have set her up iyswim?

BaconAndAvocado · 13/03/2014 21:00

peppa it's always been the same terraced house, there never was a flat.

Just seems that this time the noisy neighbour is quieter.

pipsqueak · 13/03/2014 21:42

thanks Zingy and walking the plank for the cat update - cant wait for next week .

Willemdefoeismine · 13/03/2014 21:47

I think Denton set up one level of corruption/fix.....but there's an over-arching one that goes way beyond....

Although it's a different profession, Mercurio's message about different public sector professions is the same.....corrupt/inept until proven otherwise (and mostly not!)

Really can't predict where this one is going......we'll all be on the edge of our seats!

2rebecca · 13/03/2014 21:55

I thought the neighbour was in an upstairs flat as she walked upstairs to tackle the neighbour I thought, it seemed too rough an area for people to leave their door unlocked.
I don't think Denton is innocent but if she wasn't scheduled to be on that night then she can't have planned the hostage thing. If her superior had answered his phone Dryden wouldn't have been involved so that seems coincidence too. She may have killed Carly because she got to give blowjobs whilst she had been rejected after being persuaded to have a TOP to try and pin it on Dryden but leaving her buried for a while until she happened to be put in charge of missing persons and could lead people to the body seems a bit random too. She also didn't seem to have a good relationship with the Asian policeman who pimped Carly as they tried to kill each other, and Denton had to get him to confess to working for dryden. Denton also didn't have the footage of Dryden and Carly.
I'm sure she's involved in something and suspect Dryden just likes blowjobs from teenage girls and isn't a killer but am not convinced Denton is behind it all either.
I didn't see the first series so don't get all the Caddy stuff and why it matters who the Caddy is.

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 14/03/2014 00:16

In another entirely different series the baddies hid contraband at an old people's home. I wondered if Denton had hidden something in her mother's room which she retrieved that visit.

I was pleasantly surprised Hastings gave the go ahead to bring Dryden in.

ihatethecold · 14/03/2014 06:49

I love the thread Thewomanwiththelump did about Hastings wife.
Brilliant.

fussychica · 14/03/2014 08:11

oooh yes she said to Arnott at the home - "I must have my mum's things back, they were very personal things".

So much going on, so many people who might be guilty of something.

Watched it on iplayer last night - loved it. Please, please, please BBC don't let it have a shit ending like so many other 6 part series.

Abra1d · 14/03/2014 08:16

She also didn't seem to have a good relationship with the Asian policeman who pimped Carly as they tried to kill each other

Snort!

limitedperiodonly · 14/03/2014 09:14

I didn't see the first series so don't get all the Caddy stuff and why it matters who the Caddy is.

The Caddy is Dot. It was revealed at the end of the last series that as a teenager he'd earned money caddying at the local golf club and was taken under Tommy's wing. Tommy was a member and already had a reputation.

Dot revealed (but I can't remember to who, now. Maybe it was in a conversation with Tommy) that Tommy advised him to join the police. It was a mark of Tommy's skill that he was prepared to wait so long for the plan to come to fruition. Bit unlikely, but hey ho.

Dot was grateful because he was aimless at the time and ended up with a good career. Dot knew that Tommy wanted an insider and accepted that he was Tommy's creature even though throughout the series it appeared that his loyalty lay with his boss DCI Tony Gates and the rest of the squad. Throughout the first series he was shown as not very bright. In this series he seems smarter, which is a bit jarring.

All the time you thought the Lennie James character - Gates - was corrupt, then you weren't sure. Then you thought it was the Neil Morrissey character. Gates was a bit dodgy but essentially good. Morrissey was ultra-loyal to Gates and essentially straight too. The real corrupt officer with no morality was Dot.

Dot obviously doesn't want to be exposed. But there might also be a connection between him and Tommy's murder.

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