Educating Yorkshire C4 9pm

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Am looking forward to this, RL Waterloo Rd?

I'm just catching up now and I agree that Robbie Jo just seems very young. I work in primary and I see a lot of little boys like him that just aren't ready to Go Up - whether that's to the next year or to secondary school.

I think the teachers there are doing a good job with what they've got. I don't mind the matey matey approach, I think it is in line with the expectations people have of teachers these days, in that we are expected to treat each child as an individual and think about their individual needs.

I think that it is also a good thing that a male figure in authority is happy to be seen as approachable and friendly and happy to talk abotu feelings etc without relying on authority and shouting and being, basically, a hardarse.

I have to say, I have cried a bit watching this episode. So many children with such difficult lives and such hard jobs these teachers are doing.

...although I have just heard her say that she would sort Robbie Jo out with some chocolate if he can just behave. That made me laugh and disapprove all in one go

She is obviously fond of him though.

My heart is breaking for Tom because he's just on a road to nowhere and no one is going to be able to help him but himself

Twll did you maybe miss the very end of the programme? Tom was being praised by his English teacher for working hard. He told her he has decided to apply himself and get some qualifications.

[shame face] I posted before the programme ended. But I cried again then anyway

I was surprised. I really hope he manages to keep it up. I was impressed with the way his teacher very matter of factly made the comment that being angry and challenging wouldn't bring his brother back. Very supportive without being too intense or off-puttingly earnest IMO.

Do any of you feel a bit uncomfortable watching the children go through this on screen? I loved it to start with but then felt bad for the kids, the dramas of their lives played out in front of millions. I assume everyone gave their permission, but still it made me feel uneasy...

Extremely uncomfortable. By definition consent to participate in a programme like this isn't informed. I really question the motives of the staff.

I think the staff come over as very caring and dedicated, and seeing the children makes you realise what an amazing job they do, and the kids are amazing too in their way, but surely they should all be able to make ar$es of themselves in private, rather than on tv. I was a bit of a handful at school and am really pleased there isn't any proof of it on film anywhere!

I agree sarf except for that awful woman asking probing for the gory details.
And it's not caring or dedicated to expose the children in their care to the tv cameras.

Wonder what crises the students will have tonight?

I'm hooked on this program

This is appalling as far as I can tell if you are bright in this school you are on your own. All the support is for the lowest common denominator.

Nubbin, that is the reality of most secondary schools. Certainly the one I work in puts all the money and support into a very small number of students

It was the case when I was at school too - the naughtiest/low achieving kids got to go fishing, could earn points that took them to Thorpe park etc if they were good for a bit.

People that were generally good got no incentives/perks.

That it what I struggle with - my daughter is 4 and I was privately educated which I don't agree with from an idealistic standpoint. She is about to attend a state primary which I have some misgivings about. If this school was my secondary there would be no doubt I would remortgage, homeschool, work the bursary system to ensure she didn't go there. Bullying isn't new to any education sector but the lack of support in this school is shocking.

I'm just catching up on this and I am watching it with my mouth open

I honestly cannot believe this is a "normal" level of behaviour in schools. The disrespect is horrific, but clearly it is so endemic the staff have to work with what they have got. I feel very old and very out of touch but I am amazed so much has changed it the 20 years since I was at school

These children clearly don't know any differently and there are some lovely ones on there but............wow. Just wow.

How common is this sort of level of behaviour?

The poor girl her father is a barrister and yet he still sent her to this place.

This school can not help her achieve her potential,why did her high earning and academic family send her to thornhill ?

Nubbin the reason all the support is the lowest common denominator is
that for schools like Thornhill Cs are more important than academic pupils getting As.

I agree soul, her father could afford to send her to private school, but what about Thse who can't!

English teacher. "Il be Gutted for her". We can all be casual to are family
and friends but not when you are on view.

What kind of language is that from a english teacher trying to help a
student improve her english grade from e to c.

What kind of language is that from an english teacher, who is trying to
help a struggling student.

How can they spend any time teaching when they have to deal with this level of disruptive behaviour?

People complain though that parents 'cream' their children off to certain schools or private/grammar etc and this program to me is the reason why - given the treatment of the boy in the previous program jaq? And then this I am not surprised why.

I watched this tonight (first time I've ever seen this type of programme) in open-mouthed horror.

I knew I was lucky with my education. I didn't realise exactly how lucky.

I will do anything and everything in my power to keep my children out of schools like this. Just unbelievable.

What disruptive behaviour? Didn't see much of that in this episode. Do you mean the chatting in class? That's seen as low level disruption and not a huge deal as long as you can get them to be quiet when you want them tio

I'm only on episode 2 but so far I mean

Swearing
Not following uniform code
Talking in class
Mobile phones in class
Disrespecting teaching staff
Fighting

Are they just showing the worst bits in the early episodes and it gets better?