Educating Yorkshire C4 9pm

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Am looking forward to this, RL Waterloo Rd?

It's always easier to obsess about a kid's tie than to start unpicking the reasons why a situation such as Jac's has arisen.

YY Campion.

i watched this open mouthed last night
i thought the scholl handled the whole thing badly

i think the head teacher is too matey matey and he obiously doesn't have the ear of his senior leadership team.

Last week, I had serious misgiving about how the HT handled Kamrrem. I thought his determination to ensure pupils like this finished their education, was at the expense of other students.

Now, I'm convinced of it.

The bullying of Jac-Henry was clearly and ongoing issue. And no matter how many times the HT said they were taking it seriously it absolutely was not being dealt with. And how could it be when the HT was so committed to pupils like G and K? In the end J-H took matters into is own hands. His friends saw this as having no choice in the matter...

yes-i know we only saw edited highlights but making jack do anger management but not making georgia do anything about her bullying? excluding her 6 times? chance after chance after chance??????

I found it terribly sad that Jac though that Georgia's popularity was more important than his. She obviously has a tight group of friends, but his friendship group was awesome. What a cracking bunch of kids.

Absolutely, jenny

i felt that whilst jac clearly did need support with managing his anger, Georgia should have had some sort of consequence. It did feel unfair that he was being punished whilst she got away scot-free.

My DC love the HT. He is a total contrast to their HT.

Jacs prefect friend was a good lad, and a good friend.

He didn't just simper in awe of him like georgia'a mates did, they actually were practical and helpful.

I think the boy/girl thing blurs the issue too much. He obviously gets on okay with normal girls, Georgia was just so spoilt,U have a rela. very similar,and was v. shocked to hear how only one out of five kids made it through, her parents must be so proud.

i thought the scholl handled the whole thing badly

What would your solution be to children such as Georgia and Kamren(sp?) from the first episode?

Genuine question as I don't think there's any easy answer.

I like the attitude of any school which is determined to work with difficult kids rather than to chuck them out when the going gets tough. We're actually one of the few countries in the world that uses school exclusion - teachers elsewhere seem to manage without, and it would be interesting to know how.

It's easy for us to sit behind our computers and judge the headteacher.
One has to remember that schools are under pressure not to exclude students like Georgia . The students are aware of this and therefore do what the hell they want.
I have friends who are teachers and they have told me that there are certain students who do not respond to teachers who are too strict and therefore i can understand to an extent why the HT comes across as almost pandering to the whims of Georgia. My main problem with the HT, was the fact that he appeared to be punishing Jac , in an attempt to prove that he was in control. However, he allowed Georgia to get away with some truly awful behaviour. I thought that this was unfair.
The problem with Georgia, is that she has this sense of entitlement, which is probably due to the fact that she has not been brought up properly .
I actually pity Georgia, because i can see the direction in which her life is going .

Jac responded well to the tactic taken with him - he needed the anger management course and it seemed it make an impact.

When the HT was dealing with Georgia, the tactic taken with her ("sorry, I can't let you go to the prom") also worked well. She was punished in a way that truly mattered to her, and that punishment was delivered in a way that didn't provoke a worse event. If she had lashed out at the HT, well, what then?

I'm intrigued as to what makes people like Georgia become the way they are. I wonder if her mum and sisters are bullies too given the way she was speaking about them. I remember girls like her at school though, this has got me wondering about what they are like now.

I did feel sorry for Jac and at least he is getting some help to control his anger.

I think the only way the school an deal with it is to isolate the bullies from their friends which is what they seem to be doing.

I'm a teacher and cannot bear the apologist approach to dealing with atrociously behaved bullies. Apart from the fact that Georgia - appallingly - got away with goading Jac-Henry, she told a teacher to fuck off and was then 'reasoned' with. It should have been at that point at the very latest that she should have been isolated and told she was not going to the prom.

I would be mortified if it were my daughter sitting next to Georgia, brown-nosing and being influenced by her.

Jac-Henry took his patronising punishment well but frankly he deserved far better support than the guff he got. Poor kid.

Missed the beginning, is Tom ADHD?

Don't think it's been mentioned DameEdna but i can certainly see traits in both the boys featured tonight.

They didn't say so - its really making me cross already

feeling sorry for the poor kids sitting next to Robbie and Tom

God she's harsh

why is tom in school if his step brother just died!!? recipe for disaster!

I see my ds (7) in those boys. Especially the inappropriate noises, and he has just been referred for adhd and asd testing. I must say though that i have done all the work myself, school were totally crap.

School corridors are far too narrow - bad deisgn.

Poor teacher - what an unfortunate surname 'Uren'

Nobody is thinking Tourettes / ADHD / ADD? Especially in the case of the younger boy.

I was wondering about Mrs Urine.