Educating Yorkshire C4 9pm

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Am looking forward to this, RL Waterloo Rd?

But if a woman is being abused by her partner (which includes verbal abuse) on a regular/daily basis and lashes out at him most people would have some sympathy with her. Why is it different because a boy is being abused by a girl and lashes out?

Get rid of bullies and these children will have no reason to lash out.

I don't think people do think that way though

Although of course they SHOULD..you make a very good point

That was quite tough viewing in a way - horrid reminder of being bullied at school. I felt that Jac-Henry was treated unfairly but I suppose part of growing up is realising that life isn't fair and that he needs to learn to control himself. What a great bunch of mates though.

I think Georgia's problem is she's been brought up to believe that nothing is her fault, it's always someone else's, and therefore she hasn't made the connection that her behaviour has consequences. Shame, because with 13 GCSEs she's obviously bright!

She might not have got good grades though - she can say she has 13 gcses even with all grade g

Seems school are having to adopt the parent role if the parents fall short. .a scary responsibility

I think Georgia's problem is that she has a big ego and thinks she's funny/clever/pretty/popular/wily enough to get away with her behaviour.

she reminded me very much of two teens I know (one very well) and there is this overwhelming sense of ego BUT- they need their cheerleaders to reinforce the 'Georgia is awesome' (one of her friends actually said something like that tonight) stuff both to others and to her. without their friends doing that very regularly they fall apart- it's actually a sign of a massive insecurity.

Georgia clearly believes her mum is part of her cheerleading squad and will back her no matter what against the school (ive seen that too with the teens I know) she phoned her mum straight away both times she was in trouble.

That was a bit close to home as ds (Y8) came home tonight in tears complaining about being bullied. Apparently started a week ago with him being sent to Coventry by a former friend and it escalated into physicality today with some hidden shenanigans at rugby . He had a egg-sized lump on his head (which has now gone down but is still tender).

To give ds his due, he'd raised it last week with his pastoral care teacher (and not told us "because it was just not talking " ) and is adamant he is going to see not just his pastoral care teacher but also the Head of Year tomorrow - and is going to take a friend along as a witness (this boy is friends with both of them). Doesn't want us involved at this stage.

It'll be interesting to see how the school deals with it compared to "Educating Yorkshire".

When it said Georgia got 13 GCSEs, that would have meant A* -F wouldn't it?

Actually he can change his mind re exclusions - head can do this between the decision and the governors meeting (if held) - pedantic

Uncomfortable viewing tonight, I felt very sorry for Jac Henry. I may be being unrealistic but I don't think any kid should have to cope with goading and provocation, he should be enjoying these years not constantly defending himself. I question what I would tell my boy to do in that situation, what is the solution ?, the school advocate finding a member of staff, but are staff on standby on all occasions to witness this behaviour?. How many years do you put up with something before you finally snap ?.He just seemed such a decent lad who did not want to lash out but could not stand it any longer.

Glad the Head did not back down over the prom.

There seems to be a major problem with the width of the school's corridors, far too much traffic.

how do they have time to do 13 GCSE? I did 9 and found that tough going- (well the week before exams was anyway )

I think Georgia came across as a nasty little cow. Problem is she's got her little fan club who seem to be totally in awe of her, I'd imagine this was due to her manipulative dominating personality.

Some of her comments abut the so called geeky kids were really spiteful. I think she hasn't come up against someone capable of taking her down a peg or two. I would lay blame at her parents door as I don't think that having only one of 5 sisters who has managed to avoid expulsion is just a coincidence, especially when the mother is clearly involved with what is going on at the school.

I really didn't like the stereotyping by teachers/programme about 'loud' or 'quiet/geeky' kids. Of my 5 DC, 4 are massive extroverts, they do well in school and don't bully. My quietest DC is actually the one who has issues at school because he's always daydreaming. I hate the all too easy vilification of anyone who's a bit gobby but otherwise nice, loud doesn't have to equal some intimidating thuggish yob.

Jac's not socially awkward. He seems fab and at ease with who he is. Needs to manage himself but he's doing that a whole lot better than Georgia who has a monstrous ego. We all knew people like that at school - she obviously thinks she's cute and funny. She's not going to get away with it in the world outside school and that's why they have to help her wind herself in.

I agree- jac seemed very self aware for a boy of his age.

Watched this for the first time- think the school was very brave letting the cameras in to do a whole series.

Get the impression Georgia's mother doesn't do her any favours by being ready to take Georgia's version of events as gospel & threatening to complain to the LEA. With her older sisters being excluded in the past, the family obviously have the belief the school has a vendetta against them rather than any fault lying with them. So glad she didn't get to go to the prom, wish she'd had some punishment for the altercation with Jac though.

Totally gobsmacked she got 13 Gcses since she came across as pig ignorant!

yes Georgia actually said the school were targeting her!

I actually love Jac. Just watching his behaviour now (am on ch4+1) where he insists he should take his punishment. He is cool.

What a thoroughly depressing episode. Jac gets punished and stigmatised for being bullied and Georgia gets a few chats with the head (who seems a little in awe of her), has more than a few issues with honesty and knows that a loud mouth can trump a decent discussion.

Thank goodness Jac is out of there now and hopefully is finding college more agreeable.Best of luck to Georgia's Health and Beauty teacher

Agree campion Just catching this on 47

Jac has experienced bullying and then classic victim blaming.

Jac lashed out because he was being bullied Why doesnt the school sort the ones who are responsible for the provocation out. And as for saying "if you let someone wind you up in society the police will be called."

Well we all know about the history of victim blaming culture that runs through some of these institutions.

I love Jacs friend....the boy in the green jumper.

I think he said something like "if you punch someone" as opposed to "if you let someone wind you up"

which is quite fair really- if you punch someone it is very likely the police will be called.

"I cant isolate bullying"

He seems to have no problem isolating uniform infractions.