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It's nearly Game Of Thrones Day - the countdown starts here (with spoilers)

498 replies

TrampyPanterNoster · 30/03/2013 11:49

Just over 57 hours to go...

I really can't wait. In fact, I'm going to nc in a bit to honour the return of Tyrion, Robb, Jon Snow, Brienne and Arya.

Anyone else practically wetting themselves in excitment?

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ygritte · 03/04/2013 21:38

Expat...are you insinuating that the other male is Robert Baratheon? Therefore Jon Snow could be???
I thought the crown was not a real crown but a metaphor, hopelessly confused. How did she die?

peachyglow · 03/04/2013 22:15

I would love Jon Snow to be king, the more I think about it the more I am convinced Ned wasn't capable of having a bastard but the stark looks in Jon point to him being Ned's nephrew. His father must have been pretty important to make up such a lie to keep him safe ;)

And what ever became of Uncle Benjen, who was never seen again after going beyond the wall? I think I have a pretty good idea but am probably way off

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 22:16

Which other male? If it's around Sansa, then no.

How did who die? Lyanna? You never really know.

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 22:17

She had a fever, the room smelled of blood and roses and she was 'in a bed of blood'.

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 22:18

Uncle Benjen is still missing.

peachyglow · 03/04/2013 22:22

I thought he was expat but I think it's significant and there are some clues

OzmaofOz · 03/04/2013 22:27

I think we will meet Uncle Benjen in TWOW, GRRM has said we are going further North than before so maybe in the land of always winter.
Seeing as we are doing conspiracy theories, does anyone think Syrio could have been Jaquen ?

OzmaofOz · 03/04/2013 22:28

Sorry Jaqen

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 22:30

Who was Jaquen in King's Landing to kill? Hmm, could be he was Syrio but he was there a long enough time training Arya. It's possible, though. How did he wind up in the dungeons with Rorge and Biter, though? Yoren seemed to know he was a Faceless Man, and so did Rorge and Biter.

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 22:34

The fee for getting the Faceless Men to assassinate someone varies, and Littlefinger mentions that to hire one to kill Dany Targaryen would be more than even the Lannisters can afford. But obviously he was there for a job.

OzmaofOz · 03/04/2013 22:36

Yes it would be interesting to find out more about him.
We are never told if Syrio is actually killed, was it Janos that went in to capture Arya ? I wonder if he escaped and got bundled in to the dungeons then changed his face. He uses a lot of the same phrases Syrio used when they are in Harrenhall. It could just be me over thinking things or a red herring, but I would like for him to be alive.

OzmaofOz · 03/04/2013 22:36

A yes, I had forgotten about that.

peachyglow · 03/04/2013 22:39

Jagen is a faceless man so could have changed into other people including Syrio, what was he doing to end up a prisoner? It is a bit suspicious Oz

TrampyPants · 03/04/2013 22:46

I think J was Syrio too, tbh. He certainly has a link to Arya. I think that BenJen is coldhands, the blood of the first men means that he isnt a proper white walker. He wears the black too, iirc.

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 23:04

It's certainly possible because Jaquen was in King's Landing for one reason or another.

LittleDirewolfBitJoffrey · 03/04/2013 23:10

I think that, too, about Syrio/Jaqen and BenJen/Coldhands

expatinscotland · 03/04/2013 23:12

The Onion Knight also knows that Rickon is still alive and travelling with what we know to be Osha.

peachyglow · 03/04/2013 23:19

I think Benjen is coldhands too Hmm

Gingerdodger · 04/04/2013 06:40

I never thought of J being Syrio. I wonder how many of these things will be resolved or just left to the reader's imagination. I feel like I could just constantly be rereading the books and still never work some of it out. I have just discovered who Reek is!

I think the series was right to reveal Ser Barristan early on because TV can't just drop little clues along the way and then have a big reveal like the books can.

OzmaofOz · 04/04/2013 12:03

Yes I think Ben could well be cold hands, the cof said he had been dead for a long time though - how long has he been missing for ?
Yes I couldn't see another way they could have done the Selmy introduction, shame though because my jaw dropped when I found out it was him. Where was Ben ? Hope he is in it.

EmmaGellerGreen · 04/04/2013 22:15

I feel like a trespassers here. On behalf of my DH who is a huge GoT fan, is there a site where this series can be downloaded as we don't have SKY Atlantic.

Trills · 04/04/2013 22:50

I've read on the internet that some speculate that Mad King Aerys was in love with Mrs Lannister (Joanna, I think) and is Tyrion's real father. I think that's a bit silly though.

Very much enjoyed Margaery doing her "Come to me, directly to me", because she wants to be the Queen.

Joffrey is clearly very impressed with his new betrothed - Cersei not happy about this.

Trills · 04/04/2013 22:57

expat the timing of baby Aegon's birth relative to Dany's is irrelevant, it's about being the son of the firstborn son of the king rather than being a subsequent child of the king. Prince Andrew is older than Prince William but William is next in line to the throne after Charles.

There was no way that the series could have the Arstan/Fat Belwas subplot with Barristan the Bold because we'd recognise him, so it made sense to cut that.

Trills · 04/04/2013 23:00

(but in general that was some very good explaining!)

expatinscotland · 04/04/2013 23:57

'expat the timing of baby Aegon's birth relative to Dany's is irrelevant, it's about being the son of the firstborn son of the king rather than being a subsequent child of the king. Prince Andrew is older than Prince William but William is next in line to the throne after Charles.'

I was referring to something else and two males, but not wanting to give out too many spoilers to those who hadn't read the books. I'm perfectly aware of how primogeniture works, thanks, although as pointed out it does not apply in Dorne, where Ariane is heiress rather than Trystane.

Aegeon is older than Dany, of course, but he is the son of who he is and that's what counts. No telling about Jon, it's entirely possible he is Rhaegar's and Lyanna's and that she was second wife to him in Targaryen fashion, hence the whole Tower of Joy, 'Promise me, Ned!', her bed of blood and that she was heard screaming as Ned and his 6 men approached Ser Dayne and his two companions.

A possible problem might be that people don't believe it is really Aegeon, especially because Varys was the one who orchestrated the escape and many don't trust him, despite the earnestness of Connington, who may be dead soon enough, or the other witnesses.

If you believe the Maegi then all Cersei's offspring are toast even if the latter doesn't succeed in killing off Robert's remaining bastards (Ned unwittingly gives away the most current whereabouts of nearly all of them to her in the first book, resulting in the death of baby Barra) in time before her badly kept secret is revealed.

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