We hope it's not The Final Problem. Sherlock - 9pm Sunday - BBC1

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I thought it might be an idea to start a new thread for The Reichenbach Fall since The Hounds got its thread up to over 200 pages since last Sunday!

Non-spoilery vague preview description: "Sherlock and John lock horns with their old enemy in one final problem that tests loyalty and courage to their very limits. Sherlock must fight for his reputation, his sanity and his life. But is he all he claims to be?"

BBC link for The Reichenbach Fall

Take note of the later start time of 9pm. Get your deerstalkers and spiffy pocket magnifiers ready!

Have you still got it? I'll give you real money for it! Plus I'll be your new best friend forever!

Pleeeeeease! You KNOW how much I want that pipe!

The thing about the shoe, that's definitely in a Poirot, can't think of it in a Holmes book though.

I thought his hair looked lighter this episode, did anyone else?

The only out of character thing that I can think of without re-watching it, is that just before he jumped Sherlock threw his 'phone away. Would he not have kept it in his hand or put it in his pocket? I have no idea if that's relevant or not.

Will continue with re-watch tonight.

Scatter - thank you so so so much. You're completely right, it was in a Poirot. Sorry for confusion.

Disclaimer: in no way am I comparing Sherlock with Poirot!

YOU CONFUSED SHERLOCK TO PALTRY POIROT??????? How very dare you!

It was just the shoe thing! Honest! Nothing to do with detection/deduction skills.

I'm going to sulk in the corner and have to log off anyway because I'm at work until you erase the black mark.

That you even watch Poirot is bad enough young lady!

Apparently I just found out that this Michael X geezer (a big name porn guy who likened himself to Malcolm X in the '70s) who was somehow involved in the Royal pictures that were nicked during the Baker Street robbery had a few cards up his sleeve that kept him out of jail. He held information that made him untouchable. So classified is this information that his file is Top Secret and not to be made public until 2053. Which makes you wonder..........

Rhubarb, no, sadly. But we were very privileged to able to borrow it over a weekend so my dad could show it to me and my brother.

But the Poirot was years and years ago. I was young and foolish. It meant nothing to me.

Really do have to go now.

Oooh, I've heard of Michael X- yes, the British Malcolm X, I've seen him called.

Hmmm, Prey you'll have to come up with some Sherlock facts to prove your dedication.

LeBOF - he was quite an infamous figure and it was suggested that he owned those photos and quite a few other things by the sounds of it. No-one knows what happened to the pics, I think they were destroyed by the government.

ScatterChasse - I don't know about Sherlock's hair being lighter but I thought Mycroft's hair was darker than usual in The Fall; unless it was the Diogenes Club lighting!

It's always fascinating when Top Secret files are declassified and you find out the bizarre range of things that were once considered so dangerous; as well as the genuinely juicy information. Roll on 2053!

Why was Moriarty Irish? I couldn't take him seriously as a bad guy with that lovely Irish accent of his.

Moriarty is an Irish name, so it makes sense that he could be Irish. I think he's been played by an Irish actor before in one or more of the older films (might be imagining that bit acutally).

'actually'. Doh.

Yes but it's not right that he has that lovely accent - it's offputting!
He wasn't Irish in the books, he was older than SH with a big head, thin and with rounded shoulders.

Making him good looking just distracts me!

I guess the writers wanted to confound expectations and put a fresh slant on things. They don't have to be slavishly faithful to the books. And it's quite a young enterprise overall in terms of the cast, so it might be odd to have an older, professorial Moriarty. I think it's interesting and refreshing to have a young, highly energetic (diabolically so sometimes) uber-villain. And Andrew Scott is quite simply brilliant. It'd be criminal if they'd passed over him for the part just because he was young.

and I don't think he's good-looking either

Just watched the last fifteen minutes. He was visibly shocked that Moriarty shot himself and seemed lost as to what to do next.

Also the laundry truck was too far away for it to be viable for him to have jumped in it. The pavement was too wide he would have missed

Well, that's what I can't decide about ? is he genuinely shocked or was he expecting that? I can't be sure what I think without re-watching it ? I do seem to remember thinking he looked visibly shocked, but in hindsight wonder if he saw it all coming and was acting.

Re: the truck, I'd put that down to dramatic license.

Andrew Scott is Irish. TheRhubarb I am intrigued you think he is good-looking,because my thread saying he is rather nice got all negative replies!

I think that even if you were expecting it, it would still be a shock!

Lexilicious - thanks for the help. Might be back later if I still can't crack it

Pan - thanks for the history lesson. I am of an age where I remember "alighting"

The on-the-floor and ball-bouncing struck me (and several million others!) as un-Sherlocky.

Also throwing his phone away. I wondered if he'd arranged that Molly or someone else would pick it up. No idea why he'd be so attached to it though. With his super-brain it can't be that there were lots of numbers he hadn't got around to scribbling on Post-Its and the backs of envelopes.

I agree that Moriarty was brilliantly played. I thought it was inspired to cast such an unassuming, almost fragile looking, actor. When he shouts he does look utterly insane and I like his sing-song style of speaking, it lends itself well to a madman!

The Tube announcements still say 'Alight here for mainline rail services/the Tower of London/the museums' etc, which I think is delightful. I also love the signs on the old tiled walls with a big arrow, saying 'To the Trains'.