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Torchwood is coming back to the BBC!! Such joy!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 29/04/2011 23:04

just seen a trailer with the gorgeous Captain Jack and Gwen. No idea when it will be shown bit I'm so happyyyy. We really thought they'd killed it off with the last series.

Anyone know when it's coming??!!

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TashHag · 15/09/2011 23:38

He was a member of one of the Families - but the Families could be aliens - if there is a series 5 we might find out...

teejwood · 15/09/2011 23:46

tash and lissie you mean that wasn't just an overdose of hollywood plastic surgery/botox?!
Wink

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 16/09/2011 07:58

"3 - what did they find first - bleeding/dying Jack in 1940s NY or the vagina?
vagina"

I thought they only found out the vagina after technology let them do the death statistics - i.e. relatively recently....

whatkungfuthat · 16/09/2011 08:30

I thought that too Port. I'm confused about giving it Jack's blood as they said something like out of kindness it replicated it and made everyone immortal, but they weren't like Jack otherwise anyone injured would have done what Rex did at the end - come back after a few seconds and be instantly fixed. Instead they became category 1 and comatose etc. Confused

QBEE · 16/09/2011 08:41

What! No aliens!!!

AitchTwoOh · 16/09/2011 08:45

well exactly. and honestly, did no one in the flipping super-sleuthy CIA or Torchwood think anything of the fact that every other cat 1 on the planet died except Rex? nuh? oh no, we'll think about that when he's shot by an evil lesbian.

TashHag · 16/09/2011 09:24

Wasn't it 1920's NY, not 40's? Prohibition was repealed in 1933.

Did they say they only located the Blessing due to modern technology? - so did they already know it was here somewhere , so they took Jack's blood in case they found it?
Whenever it was, did they keep Jack's blood in a freezer or something until they located the Blessing?

AitchTwoOh · 16/09/2011 09:43

well technically the blood is immortal (now, never having been so before) so, as with breastmilk, one assumes it can be 'left out on the counter' in perpetuity. Grin

why no aliens? WHY? or at least aliens behind the families? yes, there still may be, but because of the just-downright-weird motivation of the families as currently (oh yes we are super wealthy, have people everywhere and control information which uh huh is really what counts these days - see News Int/Bilderberg knicker-wetting - but what we REALLY want, all of us, is to, er... have a big bunch of dead people hanging around indefinitely) they are unlikely to get the opportunity to further explain.

what if no-one dies? ye gods, it is a LOVELY idea. am flabbergasted that this is what RTD did with it. i wuv his big poofy brain SO MUCH, why didn't it come up with a story?

teejwood · 16/09/2011 09:44

whispers - and didn't it take oswald quite a long time to die while everyone was popping their collective clogs? quite handy given that he had that bomb waiting for his handgrip to relax Hmm

actually port and kungfu think you may well be right about them having jack's blood first and then finding the blessing - it was just the way scarey facelift woman said "we had one artefact" and looked at the blessing and then said "and then we found another artefact" -and looked at jack. so it was a bit confusing....

teejwood · 16/09/2011 09:48

i probably got it wrong due to the Wine but thought they found the blessing and only realised what it could do once they could crunch the numbers via technology??

re RTD - again loved the "what?" "what?" "what?" at the end (echoes of 10) and the "I'm so sorry" (ditto)

Ormirian · 16/09/2011 09:50

Well that was quite odd.

teejwood · 16/09/2011 09:50

Tash Jack and Ratty happened before the great depression so you'd be talking pre-1929.

teejwood · 16/09/2011 09:54

{aside - aitch you don't need to be a bilderberg-conspiracy nut to think news int was out of control and disproportionate in terms of its influence. not saying the daily fail isn't similar in certain respects, mind you....}

TashHag · 16/09/2011 09:56

Yes tee, that's what I thought, it was someone else who said 1940's

Actually I think the caption said 1927, but I could easily be wrong about that

Ormirian · 16/09/2011 09:58

I did miss some episodes but why did they burn the category ones? Can you kill someone who is immortal?

teejwood · 16/09/2011 10:05

tash yy was agreeing with you Grin

teejwood · 16/09/2011 10:10

orm it was their way of acclimatising people to the idea of incinerating vast tracts of the global population. they start with the cat 1's, get everyone to agree they are dangerous and a drain (drug resistant bacteria, not enough medicine to go around, they are effectively dead anyway etc) and the world is better off if they are turned to dust.
then they moved on to the cat 0's - people who should really have been dead/don't deserve to live - like Oswald.
no doubt they would have moved on to other populations too before they were done....

AitchTwoOh · 16/09/2011 10:17

BUT WHY? if they had that level of influence what is the motivation to get their hands dirty with genocide? what would they stand to gain?

and you knwo if i was really going to be prickly about the character of oswald i would say that it was a. markedly distasteful for rtd to have a child rapist come off sympathetically (which he did, pullman's was imo the best character in it, bar jilly) and b. super-duper-distasteful for them to try and weasel out of it by having him die with a hard-on for his victims. Hmm

Ormirian · 16/09/2011 10:20

Ahhh... I see. Thanks

I did miss out a lot then!

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 16/09/2011 10:22

Agree Aitch - the comments about little girls in hell was very distasteful.

Did like Jilly's line about making him in charge of a bomb and then showing him his soul though - glad she survived ... she'll be watch able if they do make a next series.

AitchTwoOh · 16/09/2011 10:54

jilly was sensational, i thought. utterly brilliant. let's have the jilly show. Grin

teejwood · 16/09/2011 10:59

aitch - there were so many things that were unexplained (particularly when they had so much padding time to do so Wink) so we're having to make up quite a bit, aren't we?
my perception was that from their perspective they wanted to be immortal, to do this they had to make the world immortal, but they also decided they would need to do something to clear out the diseased/unwanted - hence the genocide. and of course they were never directly to blame for that - it was the governments who decided on the final solution (albeit we can assume that it was the familes who pushed for this to happen...)

also agree port and aitch that RTD/the team went over the top with Danes at the end - OK they wanted to remind us he was scum, not some hero saving the day (he was going to die anyway ffs, and he knew it) - but as with quite a few elements of this series it was overkill and struck the wrong note...

port - yy gilly had some great lines throughout the series. if we have to have another series with the family as the big bad then she might help to make it bearable!!

teejwood · 16/09/2011 11:06

shit - know someone who's "gilly" so keep mis-spelling. grrrrr.

AitchTwoOh · 16/09/2011 11:08

okay, so they wanted to be immortal, i get that, but that is all retroactive plotting, surely? they had a giant fanny that told you what a cunt/super chap you were, right? for eighty or so years that's literally all it did, until they crunched the aging data and realised that it also represented the median age of death.

meanwhile they had jack's blood, also for eighty years or so.

so they sat on BOTH of these things for eighty years before doing something? no-one just transfused themselves a la rex back in 1929, to see what would happen (which as we now know is immortality)? no-one got told by the blessing they were actually a bit of a shit and decided to Do Something Good Instead like help the poor of the Depression or some shit? nup.

did hugely like the 'the most terrestrial thing of all' line, now that i come to think of it.

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 16/09/2011 11:20

I am also most amused that the OP's last post on this thread was on Sat 16th July - just after the first episode aired Grin