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Torchwood is coming back to the BBC!! Such joy!

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 29/04/2011 23:04

just seen a trailer with the gorgeous Captain Jack and Gwen. No idea when it will be shown bit I'm so happyyyy. We really thought they'd killed it off with the last series.

Anyone know when it's coming??!!

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Dumbledoresgirl · 15/09/2011 14:15

Jack's identity is not clear. Discussion about whether he is an alien further down this thread. He is from the 51st century, but whether an alien or not is not clear (IMO and I am no sci-fi expert).

Yes, he is friends with Dr Who, has occasionally travelled with him.

The other Torchwood members died in the line of duty. HTH

LadyMontdore · 15/09/2011 14:21

Thank you! Do we know if he has a 'purpose' - been sent back in time to make things better in the future. Or is he just stuck in the past doing his best?

RustyBear · 15/09/2011 14:39

!!!! CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR DOCTOR WHO AND TORCHWOOD!!!!

I'll try not to put too many in though, so it'll be a bit cryptic in places.

Jack is (probably) not an alien; he is probably a human from an earth colony in the 51st century.

He lived in the Boeshane peninsula, planet unknown, which was at some point attacked by aliens who abducted Jack's brother Gray and killed his father. Jack (or whatever his real name is) was the first person from his community to join the Time Agency, which is where he got his wrist strap device (the Vortex Manipulator), and became a poster boy in his hometown, known as 'The Face of Boe'

While he was working for the Time agency, he woke up one day and found that two years of his memories had been removed, presumably by his employers. This led him to leave the Agency, steal a Chula warship and start a new business conning Time Agents into buying worthless space junk - that's how he met the Ninth Doctor and rose, as he mistook them for Time Agents, and tried to con them into buying an old space ambulance.

After the Doctor had dealt with the problems this caused (see DW series 1, The Empty Child and The Doctor Dances) Jack joined the crew of the Tardis and was eventually killed by Daleks (DW S1, Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways) Rose had been sent home for her own safety, but she opened the Tardis, absorbed the Time Vortex and came back to destroy the Daleks. She also resurrected Jack, but she couldn't control the Time Vortex and it made him 'immortal' - although later events seem to show that Jack can 'give away' the Vortex energy inside him (Torchwood Series 1, Ep 2 and DW series 3 Gridlock)

The Vortex energy was killing Rose, so the Doctor took it out of her into himself, which triggered his regeneration from Nine to Ten, but they then left the space station leaving Jack behind.

Jack then used his Vortex manipulator to try to find the Doctor, aiming for the 21st century, but he got it a bit wrong and landed in 1869. The Vortex manipulator's time travel function then failed leaving him stuck in the 19th century. It apparently took hom until the early 1890's to discover he was immortal, and he then lived through the entire 20th century waiting for a version of the Doctor he could contact (ie after he had initially been picked up) During this time he got involved with Torchwood as a freelancer, and eventually took over Cardiff in 2000 - the implication is that he didn't agree with what the Torchwood in London was doing and after that one was destroyed, he 'remade' Torchwood in the Doctor's honour.

Eventually, the Doctor came back to Cardiff to refuel the Tardid at the rift, as Jack had anticipated, and Jack tried to rejoin the Tardis, (end of Torchwood series 1) but the Doctor saw him and dematerialised. (DW s3 Utopia) Jack clung on to the Tardis which tried to escape him and in doing so took them all to the end of the Universe. The Doctor then explained to Jack that he had abandoned him because of a gut reaction to Jack's Time Vortex-induced immortality, telling Jack that he was a fixed point in time, which he and the TARDIS automatically rejected.

When they got back to Earth, Jack decided to rejoin his team at Torchwood, instead of travelling with the Doctor.

The team then consisted of Gwen, Ianto, Tosh and Owen. During S2 of torchwood, Owen was shot, but Jack used a resurrection glove to bring him back to life - they thought temporarily, but he actually stayed 'dead', but animated. He eventually sacrificed himself averting a nuclear catastrophe, and at the same time Tosh was killed by the person responsible for the threat.

Ianto died during Series Three of Torchwood, Children of Earth, of an alien plague.

HarrietJones · 15/09/2011 14:41

He was a time agent who went rogue (con man) IIRC. Travelled in time a bit. Travelled with the Dr. Rose made him immortal. He got left somewhere in the future. Made his way to Cardoff bay & joined Torchwood 3. Had a couple of trips in the tardis while he was there.

HarrietJones · 15/09/2011 14:43

X post with a lot more detailed Rusty!

ExitPursuedByaBear · 15/09/2011 14:53

Wow Rusty - thanks for that. I love Dr Who and I am struggling through TW, but your precis has sorted out a lot of things for me.

Dumbledoresgirl · 15/09/2011 14:55

Glad to see, by watching Loose Women on catch up, that JB is still gorgeous in real life, even if Jack is looking a bit haggard in Torchwood.

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:00

DH and i can't wait. I think it's mostly so we get our lives back on a Thurs evening Grin .... the pain will soon be over.

I am cooking Captain Jack's Pork Surprise for tea .... the surprise is it has nothing to do with his nethers for once

As an aside - what age do you think would be suitable for this series? I was surprised that two of DS1's classmates were watching it - he is 10.

teejwood · 15/09/2011 16:03

Love rusty's precis - great job!!! although it was never confirmed that the face of boe is actually the face of boe iykwim and therefore we can't say that jack was actually part of the gridlock story, imho.
i may be wrong but it's one of the things that RTD has never confirmed - bit like whether it was the doctor's mother covering her eyes in End of Time Pt 2

teejwood · 15/09/2011 16:05

port we have told ds that he can see it when he is mid-teens at the earliest Wink

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:07

a sound move teej Grin

RustyBear · 15/09/2011 16:09

You're right of course, but I like to think it's true....

So edit that to:
although later events seem to show that Jack can 'give away' the Vortex energy inside him (Torchwood Series 1, Ep 2 and DW series 3 Gridlock if Jack really is the entity the Doctor knows as 'The Face of Boe'*)

The Torchwood episode does definitely show Jack 'giving away' some of his energy to Carys, who had been possessed by the alien, though of course at that point we, and presumably Jack, don't know what the energy is, as this episode predates the DW episode Utopia, where jack finds out what happened to him.

teejwood · 15/09/2011 16:10

port we can't run the risk of him trying to find something with which he can try and retcon his dad and i into thinking he has no homework Wink

teejwood · 15/09/2011 16:14

rusty completely agree - I loved that bit where doc turned to martha and went "noooooo!"

and no need to edit that brilliant post - i'm just being a geek re the endless debate about "is jack is or is jack ain't the face of boe"?! Grin

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:22

I'm guessing the 'why is it that at the beginning folks were still alive even if just burnt heads or walking with their necks on backwards but later only have to be shot once and fall down 'dead' question won't be answered.

But i reeeeeally hope most of the questions are.... (Aitch don't break my heart)

AMumInScotland · 15/09/2011 16:26

portblack I'd say 10 was pretty young, though I know some DC that age get to watch almost anything. There are some quite gruesome bits of violence!

I didn't let DS watch series 1 when it started, and he was 13 at the time, because episode 1 apparently included a rape, so I decided it wasn't something we'd be watching as a family....

AitchTwoOh · 15/09/2011 16:26
Grin
PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:30

Oh god - i'm going to be back here tonight / tomorrow going Confused Confused Hmm aren't i?

teejwood · 15/09/2011 16:33

aitch - is that your code for pissing yourself laughing at the thought of us thinking we might get the answers we want out of this episode?! Wink

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:43

AMIS - i agree 10 is too young - it never ceases to amaze me what some of his friends watch and the games they are allowed to play.

I don't remember the rape - i remember the glove / the sewer creatures / the torchwoodian woman who became a baddie / how Gwen got into it etc. - that's really bad Blush i'm genuinely Shock that i wouldn't remember that ...

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 16:50

Sorry to derail thread ....

RustyBear · 15/09/2011 17:44

Don't think there was a rape shown in episode 1, but there was an implication that Owen was effectively raping the girl in the bar (and possibly her boyfriend too) by using the spray that makes him irresistible.

There is also a sex scene in Ep 2 that didn't leave a lot to the imagination, and on the first showing, the first two episodes were shown back to back. That was the scene where the alien-possessed Carys shags a guy in a bar, who explodes at the point of climax, leading to Jack's comment as they watch on CCTV - "He came... and went"

RustyBear · 15/09/2011 17:47

WARNING - don't read the Wikipedia entry for Torchwood till after you've seen this evening's episode. It gives away a pretty important fact... Angry

PortBlackSandWitchIsThere · 15/09/2011 17:58

Shit Shit Shit - sorry if it was my question made you look Rusty Blush

RustyBear · 15/09/2011 18:05

Don't worry about it, Port!

I had a vague memory of reading somewhere that there had been a rape scene deleted in the second episode (where alien/Carys goes out to get revenge on some boys who raped her when she was younger) so I googled 'deleted rape scene' & the Wikipedia entry came up. But I should have remembered that some people have already seen the US version and were quite likely to have updated Wikipedia, and shouldn't have clicked on it.