X FACTOR Results - Will we see the back of Wagner at last?

[MmeLindt]

Probably not. I fear we are stuck with him.

Even more people will vote for him after Cheryl sticking the boot in.

MuGGGle
I thought that if I offered to send you choc you might refuse (don't ask me why I thought that, no idea) so offered to send your DD some instead. Will get a Swiss care packet together and send you something. Watch your inbox.

I've had a drink, Sue. I'm a LOL a minute when I've been on the electric soup.

cupcakes, last time I checked, MN was open to all. If you don't like my opinion, you can just skip my posts. It's that easy.

Lougle I too came on here to enjoy a thread about the X-Factor and I too was horrified to read a string of foul attacks... I thought I'd stumbled into AIBU by mistake and almost fell behind in the bun fight stakes

If anyones being bullied its Wagner. He's just been booed again on ITV2 plus 1 and nobody is sticking up for him, the presenter is letting people be snide about him (and shit stirring). And he's being a gentleman about it all. It's one thing slagging people off where they don't know but the shit he's putting up with every week is unreal.

Yes it IS open to all. Which includes people who want to be rude about people on the X-Factor.

So we are at stalemate.

Yes, I was horrified. It reminded me of school days when one poor person was ego-fodder for the 'cool kids' and spent a miserable year being slagged off left, right and centre.

The only thing that is worse is the fact that it is adults who know better, slagging off a vulnerable child.

How is it that we can be so kind to parents who post about their child being the victim of bullying, telling them to raise merry hell, because it is wrong, yet do the same to someone in the name of entertainment?

And also, why don't you take your own advice and skip the posts that you don't agree with?

Thanks, KatieKitty. Shame we are in a minority.

If she's not reading this thread (and I'd be amazed if she were an MNer), how is it actually bullying her? Surely for it to be bullying she has to read it and be affected by it?

And 17 IS NOT A CHILD

I've just shared the sperm babies with my friends on FB. Thank you for the link, my life was missing something and now I know what it is. Have to say on first look I thought that they were Jawa sperm and the brown stuff was their little monkish habits...

Because to simply skip the post means that they go unchallenged. Which means that everyone thinks it is OK to behave like this.

Your horrified Lougle yet your still here? I hide threads i don't like....

Lovecat the law states that a person becomes an adult the day they turn 18 years old. She is a child.

"It reminded me of school days when one poor person was ego-fodder for the 'cool kids' and spent a miserable year being slagged off left, right and centre. "

nd there lies the rub. Cher is the "cool" kid. We're just mums on the internet. She isn't poor or vulnerable or being victimised for being different or geeky. She's disliked because she's got an attitude problem.

You wanna look up last nights thread and last weeks results show.... you will simply faint with horror!

Quite right Lougle. Can you just administer a quick group spank and move on? I think somebody was rude about Gillian McKeith in another thread.

I've explained why I didn't hide the thread. Why do people stand up to racism, sexism, homophobia, other prejudices? Why is it OK to pick a girl apart because she is from a lower class and because she is not as polished as other contestants?

"Because to simply skip the post means that they go unchallenged. Which means that everyone thinks it is OK to behave like this."

And that's why I didn't skip yours. Because then everyone will think it's OK to be a pious moron, dictating morals on the interwebs if it goes unchallenged.

That's not why she's being picked on - it's because she's a pain in the arse!

cupcakes why are you resorting to personal attack? I don't think my comments warrant that. It isn't a far-fetched notion to think that personal attacks on a 17 year old to the degree on this thread are out of line.

Imagine allll the peeeeeeople, living life in peeeeace.

I think you are taking this far too seriously. I mean anyone would think this was a thread about the XF, a "singing" competition where a bunch of people are having their say on it, good and bad.

Lougle I wasn't agreeing with you, sorry!

It's not because she's lower class. Most of the contestants are lower class.

You see, when someone conveys themselves as being aggressive/feisty/superior they set themselves up for criticism.

Lougle

Address the rest of my post, why don'tcha? :o

I was living as an adult at 17 and expected to take responsibility for myself. So are lots of other people at that age. I'm sure Cher wouldn't like to be characterised as a child, in fact you're probably being rather patronising to the person you're so keen to defend by doing so.