Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Constant detentions for skirt length

522 replies

Falcon1 · 05/10/2025 08:36

My DD is 13. Since starting year 8 she’s had weekly detentions for rolling up her skirt and has been on report. She was also on report twice last year for the same thing. I keep getting emails from the school about it, but really - what can I do? This last detention we’ve said enough is enough and have grounded her but she is entirely unbothered. Her take is that she wants to wear her skirt the way she likes it and will keep doing so, and that the teachers should stop being so obsessed with her legs being on display. I kind of agree to be honest, particularly as she is doing fine academically. But I worry she’s going to be in detention her whole school career and it’s making her hate the school.

any advice most gratefully received!

OP posts:
EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 05/10/2025 21:03

She sounds dreadful OP. I know you have her down as some sort of feminist icon but to my mind she just another entitled kid who won’t follow the rules. Most workplaces have a dress code. You’d be doing her a favour if you took away all screens until she stepped collecting detentions.

Tiswa · 05/10/2025 21:48

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 05/10/2025 21:03

She sounds dreadful OP. I know you have her down as some sort of feminist icon but to my mind she just another entitled kid who won’t follow the rules. Most workplaces have a dress code. You’d be doing her a favour if you took away all screens until she stepped collecting detentions.

Edited

She sounds normal like many of the girls I see in my area!

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/10/2025 21:51

Tiswa · 05/10/2025 21:48

She sounds normal like many of the girls I see in my area!

Do you have a teenaged daughter?

sundaychairtree · 05/10/2025 21:56

My kidss secondary school hS s summer dress. The girks wear a belt with it and pull it up through the belt to shorten the skirt!

Allseeingallknowing · 05/10/2025 22:03

Franpie · 05/10/2025 13:12

Complete nonsense. Girls dress for other girls. They want other girls to think they look nice, not for the male gaze.

My DD couldn’t give a shit about what the boys think she looks like. But she cares massively if other girls thinks she looks like a dork or fat or ugly or frumpy.

I’m not too dissimilar. If a friend says she loves my outfit, it makes me feel a lot happier than if my DH does.

You are deluding yourself if you think girls don’t do it for the male gaze! No one walking about with bare backsides looks nice

LizzyEm · 05/10/2025 22:10

Falcon1 · 05/10/2025 08:52

I’m torn between thinking let school deal with it and coming down hard at home - I really don’t know what the right approach is. She feels disrespected at school and generally she responds much better with rationale for why she should do something rather than punishment. She is very stubborn when she wants to be so I’m concerned about potentially making things worse!

Teach her she has to have respect for herself before other people will respect her too....

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 01:44

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

thirdfiddle · 06/10/2025 01:45

I don’t understand why they want them so short to be honest.

It's just bog standard boundary pushing in my opinion, only the boundary has shifted. Schools didn't want to police knee length and parents didn't want knee length policed, so they let the acceptable length shift up. So now the boundary pushers in order to push boundaries have to go to obscene instead of just mini.

Tiswa · 06/10/2025 02:17

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/10/2025 21:51

Do you have a teenaged daughter?

I do as I have said she doesn’t wear it that short but she does roll it up. As I said went to Grammar Straight A student now moved to sixth form with a uniform. Her school let the year 11 off last year but really cracking down now and it is getting worse in terms of doing a another roll.

She has moved to an all boys school who let in girls in sixth form which still has a uniform and they do roll but not the final roll so it isn’t obscene
DS is at a different school (obviously as DD was all girl grammar) and it is rife there systemic I would say the ones who don’t (again as I said before) really do stand out.

Do you have one @MrsSkylerWhite because it is standard - it shouldn’t be and I agree it shouldn’t be particularly the fact that over DD times it has gone from one or two rolls to two or three but to say this is someone just the OPs daughter seems naive and wrong to me

PreciousTatas · 06/10/2025 07:17

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Ew.

Pedo vibes.

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 07:32

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

PreciousTatas · 06/10/2025 08:06

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

And why exactly are you talking to your therapist and 'many professionals' about the behaviour of young school girls?

And why are you friends with a group of people who have extensive experience with young girls behaving sexually?

CrispieCake · 06/10/2025 08:25

Lots of teenagers are entitled and think they're at the centre of the world. Most learn otherwise eventually. It's not something to worry about.

One piece of advice parents of children of all ages are given is "Pick your battles". When schools are zero tolerance and make everything a battle, I think it's all the more important that parents take this approach. I'm not saying condone it, you can tell her that she's being very silly. But if everything else is going ok, I wouldn't put any effort into coming down hard on this at home. The school can do what they want.

You'll have chucked out the skirts, bought trousers and started researching new schools, and then your DD will have moved onto winding you up with something else.

XiCi · 06/10/2025 08:27

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Traumatised and have personality disorders? Histrionic? For rolling their skirt up a couple of inches? They are not 'showing their bum' they are making a very unflattering below knee skirt a little bit shorter because they are at that age where fashion becomes important. Your posts are disgusting. All of them. Easy to see how you, as a man with these views, happened upon this thread.

Poppingby · 06/10/2025 08:37

XiCi · 06/10/2025 08:27

What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Traumatised and have personality disorders? Histrionic? For rolling their skirt up a couple of inches? They are not 'showing their bum' they are making a very unflattering below knee skirt a little bit shorter because they are at that age where fashion becomes important. Your posts are disgusting. All of them. Easy to see how you, as a man with these views, happened upon this thread.

The whole thread is like it. 'whore-length skirts' and 'know exactly what they're doing' and descriptions of young girls' bodies. It's fucking disgusting.

estrogone · 06/10/2025 08:43

FrippEnos · 05/10/2025 08:48

If she isn't bothered about the detentions then let her continue.
As you say there is nothing you can do to stop her from doing it.

I really disagree.

A parent's job is to actually parent. There are rules. Her options are obey them or accept the consequences. You know the rules of the school OP - you too get a choice, or must face the consequences.

Your DDs consequence is detention and sanctions from you.

Your consequence is sanction your DD or see her run wild when skirts become ecstasy/sex (insert other unacceptable behaviour in a minor).

Woman up for God's sake and stop being such a pushover. Next detention will result in a day without a phone. I GUARANTEE you she won't be rolling up her skirt any more.

You do understand that schools have rules for reasons other than obsession about your DDs legs.

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 08:46

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Mischance · 06/10/2025 08:50

It is a school matter and the school are dealing with it. End of.

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 08:55

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

PreciousTatas · 06/10/2025 09:06

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

It's a shame your 'strong academics' aren't able to prevent you spewing word salad bollocks or enable you to actually answer a question.

What 'greatness'? Who doesn't have evidence for their suppossed greatness, young school girls?

I doubt very much that women like you, tolerate you to keep the peace perhaps, but the fact you are unable to see how creepy you are coming across makes it unlikely.

Obsessing over young school girls supposed reasons for being sexual with your therapist, 'many' professionals and friends is fucking creepy.

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 09:17

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

PreciousTatas · 06/10/2025 09:26

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

I didn't insinuate 'many good men' were creepy.

I said YOU were creepy, backed up by the evidence of your own, quite frankly, disgusting and ignorant posts about young girls motives/behaviour here.

You can 'not tolerate' it as much as you like.

Just like I won't tolerate illiterate men spewing bullshit about young school girls, attempting to use calls to authority (check notes, their therapist, weirdo friends and 'many' professionals... scoff) to justify their obsession.

XiCi · 06/10/2025 09:26

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

They don't have evidence to support their greatness. Are you talking about the young girls here? Your posts are really disturbing. I think this thread should be taken down tbh

PreciousTatas · 06/10/2025 09:28

XiCi · 06/10/2025 09:26

They don't have evidence to support their greatness. Are you talking about the young girls here? Your posts are really disturbing. I think this thread should be taken down tbh

I agree it is disturbing, but I prefer things like this to remain out in the open.

It is important to recognise that these men walk amoung us, and robustly counter their infantile fantasies.

ByGreyWriter · 06/10/2025 09:29

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.