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Criticism of holiday choices - fed up!

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Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 10:26

I have teenage girls aged 16 and 19. My 19 year old is at university so still comes on holiday with us, and besides, her younger sister wouldn’t be happy really to come away without her.

I spend a long time every year coming up with holiday ideas that won’t break the bank. We are supporting DD1 through university, which has included buying and insuring a car for her as well as paying all of her living costs. She costs us about £15k per year. We will embark on doing the same for DD2 in 2027, so we are constantly saving.

Despite this we’ve had great holidays - last year a Mediterranean cruise and this year two weeks in Greece. We also manage some city breaks in between, mainly to do something specifically cultural, for example we went to Germany when DD2 was studying German and we’ve been to Rome and Florence to look at art/archaeology for my elder daughter.

I have booked everything, always.

i personally love France because I speak French however we never go there because the rest of the family prefer other destinations, so I go for a long weekend to France every autumn with a good friend instead.

the reason I’m posting is because I’m constantly criticised. So for example I usually start looking for holiday inspiration around September time, and I try looking for perhaps an air bnb within budget, with air con and a decent pool. I read reviews to make sure the wifi works, I check that the property looks comfortable and there are things to do locally. It takes me ages to find something - usually because the price point isn’t right.

the criticism starts from the family because they see me ‘on my phone all the time’ and they accuse me of ‘looking at mumsnet and Facebook.’ In fact I’m often researching a holiday property for the following year. This is especially apparent if for example they are watching a film and they think I should be watching the same film but im
not interested so I start ‘scrolling my phone’ looking at air bnb.

they also accuse me of ‘looking at X or Y because you’re obsessed with that’ ( things related to my own interests) and yet they have their own interests that they are obsessed with, and this appears to be fine.

and then the arguments start. So this year I was planning Italy but my husband said he didn’t want to go there because the food is samey. I replied that our very fussy younger daughter would at least eat pasta and pizza, he scoffed. He offered no alternative suggestion because he has never, ever researched holidays. So we came to Greece and now he says it’s fine but maybe Italy would have been better. The property we are staying in is not within walking distance of the town, so if we go out at night then he has to drive, and he’s a bit sulky about that because he likes a drink. I don’t drive abroad, I don’t feel confident driving on the right.

last night we went for dinner as a family and left under a cloud after a disagreement on next years holiday. Both kids really want to
go to the Alps - which I’m really keen on - but I know they will also want to laze by a pool as well, and the alps doesn’t really fit with that.

So - I suggested a week in the alps followed by a week in an air bnb with a pool - in an adjacent country which will likely have hot weather. My suggestion was to fly in and out of Geneva as a base and spend the second week somewhere like Annecy. This led to a big stink about how ‘you always want to go to France and you’re just trying to get your own way.’

we have not been to France as a family since 2015 when we took the kids to Disneyland paris, which would not have been my choice.

I honestly felt so fed up last night. I don’t mind whether the second week is Italy or France or indeed Germany, but I think Annecy would be wonderful as it’s so pretty. My 16 year old announced she wanted to go to Germany because ‘why should we go to France just because you speak French? I speak German so let’s go there.’

I should add that 3/4 of the family speak French, it’s just that I’m most proficient. Nobody but DD2 speaks German.

DD2 also said she could ‘easily find an air bnb’ in Germany. Frankly, I’ll be astonished if she finds this ‘easy’ once I give her the parameters, so WIBU of this very fed up mum to give her a list of said parameters next month and tell her to fill her boots? I think it will stress her out, but perhaps she will learn a lesson and stop being so bloody ungrateful?

this is not the first time I’ve felt
fed up that my hard work is criticised - I think every year I tend to consider not booking anything for the following year - however I then panic that we won’t have a holiday. Last year’s cruise was a result of that!

sorry for the long post and thanks for reading. I feel like a travel agent who cannot seem to get anything right - and who books holidays for others which aren’t really the holiday she would choose for herself. How long until we can send them off together on some sort of package holiday? Does DD2 need to be 18?

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Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:01

Well. I love travel and I spend a lot of time thinking about it. And when we are on holiday, we always tend to think whether we’d come back next year.

so we did cruises two years running because, at the end of the first cruise, we were saying ‘let’s do this next year!’

then of course on the second cruise it was ‘oh we wish we had a private pool, and we wish we didn’t feel so rushed on the stop overs.’

and hence the discussions began about the 2025 holiday…and here we are in ‘not Italy’

the reason for booking in advance, and thinking in advance is that (in my experience) the good accommodation gets booked up quickly. We are in a beautiful villa right now that cost £3k when other similar property locally was £5-6k. So I’m that early bird that catches the worm, which has been important in the last few years when we’ve been saving for university and cars.

Im looking forward to them both being adults.

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Malariahilaria · 11/08/2025 11:03

I think you sound lovely, like you've tried so hard to be fair and have everyone input so you get it right for everyone and everyone is happy. However, this has now led to children who pay for nothing thinking they can make the decisions rather than input a bit. Yes 'somewhere with a pool and wifi', no they don't choose the whole country ffs. My teen has requested his own room as he got older because his younger brother drives him up the wall so we accomodate that but explain it might be a bit further out etc but he doesn't choose the country! I do think you need to overcome the driving issue tho, then it opens up the whole experience. Not having a drink on holiday can be a bit dull for some.

wolleywool · 11/08/2025 11:04

Im looking forward to them both being adults.

The eldest is an adult....

bengalcat · 11/08/2025 11:04

You sound absolutely delightful OP - ungrateful whiney bunch you have to put up with - time to openly talk about and plan things with others I’d say

wolleywool · 11/08/2025 11:06

I do think you need to overcome the driving issue tho, then it opens up the whole experience.

or get cabs

Twistedfirestarters · 11/08/2025 11:08

You do sound like an absolutely lovely, thoughtful mum @Mintytoothpaste1 . You are also completely unappreciated. Sometimes the more you give someone the less they appreciate it and the more they demand.

You would be doing these young ladies a huge favour by giving them less. Your oldest IS an adult. Your youngest will pretty much be one too by next year. I'm not saying don't take them on holiday but YOU dictate where you're going and they either go or not.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 11/08/2025 11:08

wolleywool · 11/08/2025 11:00

Why are you spending 15k on your eldest dd? Does she have a job?

This.

At 19 I had not been living at home for 2 years and had bought a house.

You need to get their “entitlement” sorted out before the real world eats them alive.

Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:09

The question of why we are spending 15k on our daughter is irrelevant. Yes, she does have a job, but we pay all her living costs and she’s on a course that doesn’t give her much free time.

she doesn’t have any maintenance loan. Again, totally irrelevant to the topic here and personal choice.

on the subject of driving - I suppose it’s selfish that I refuse to drive abroad, but I’m just not confident. I have an eye condition that means I avoid driving at night in the uk unless the road is well-lit, I’m not about to start driving at night abroad on the wrong side of the road and with a steering wheel on the wrong side!

We are currently staying in a location where ‘central’ accommodation tends to be apartments with shared pools. My husband actively wanted a private pool and was willing to drive. There’s the compromise he agreed to. There’s a local restaurant we can walk to, been twice, kind of exhausted it tbh.

im liking the idea of just telling them where we are going. Not sure how we stop taking my elder daughter if my younger one wants her to come.

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wolleywool · 11/08/2025 11:11

The question of why we are spending 15k on our daughter is irrelevant.

It isn't in the context of wondering why your dc are behaving spoilt & entitled...

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 11/08/2025 11:12

At this point I believe you should take a stand on their attitudes, next year no holiday for either of them.

They will need to show appreciation

Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:12

And I’m very happy that the person who posted that they had a house by the time they were 19 had a house by the time they were 19.

most young people today do not. Especially if they are at university. Both mine have a deposit for a house and will be shown how to use it ASAP!

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thismummydrinksgin · 11/08/2025 11:12

God this is my family dynamic with my husband. He puts zero effort in and then criticises me because I’ve booked somewhere near a beach, which he doesn’t like apparently.

Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:13

is that why mummy drinks gin?

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wolleywool · 11/08/2025 11:14

There is absolutely nothing wrong with supporting your dc even when they are adults. My parents helped me and I will help mine. But there is a problem when your dc are ungrateful

Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:15

Cruises are good, you know - we got to see lots of places and the girls could bugger off on the ship and do their own thing, eat their own thing etc.

But having done that twice, kind of feel like we’ve seen the med and the Adriatic. But there’s no driving on poorly-lit roads is there?!

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turkeyboots · 11/08/2025 11:16

The Alps can be hot and sitting by thr pool is totally doable in high summer. But thats not your problem.
Have a chat when you are home that you are no longer going to plan holidays if they complain. Youngest can stay with Granny or the eldest can mind her. You and DH could go away, or just threathen to go alone. Mine are the same age and while I won't book something I know the'd hate, I am making the decision and they can come or stay with relatives.

FrenchandSaunders · 11/08/2025 11:17

It is annoying when DH has such little input, mine is the same. He says he's busy but then spends hours online looking at bloody car auctions or similar.

I don't even expect him to find villas/hotels/flights ... in the past I've said could you do a bit of research in this particular area and find a decent restaurant or somewhere to visit .... nothing. He doesn't complain though to be fair ...

WonderingWanda · 11/08/2025 11:17

They all sound selfish, lazy and spoilt. Book your own holiday and leave them to sort theirs op. I couldn't tolerate that level of ungrateful whinging from grown up teens and adult dh.

Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:19

I might just go to France on my own. Fuckers.

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Mintytoothpaste1 · 11/08/2025 11:20

(Also thanks for input about the alps, I assumed that would be a non-starter for a pool holiday, I’ll keep that in mind when I’m on my solo trip to France….)

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BeaLola · 11/08/2025 11:23

I would be booking a 10 day- 2 week holiday to France alone (or with the friend you go with in the Autumn) to treat yourself and to have a holiday that you would love as a reward for all your tireless organising

Let your DH and DDs sort out next years trip themselves ....

EuclidianGeometryFan · 11/08/2025 11:27

Two things:

Stop thinking about next year's holiday when you are actually on holiday now. Their complaints about you being on your phone too much may be valid.
You need to live more in the moment, and enjoy their company while you still have it.

As soon as you are back home, tell them that you will not be doing any planning for next year. Go on strike. They need to plan it, and DH needs to work out the budget. Then just go along with whatever they come up with.
It may be that next year's holiday just doesn't happen. That is a win. They learn a lesson about taking you for granted, and you save the money.

You can of course take yourself off to France (or anywhere) whenever you fancy.

SimpleBitch · 11/08/2025 11:30

At 19 I was married with my own baby

kids these days are too babied and spoilt😂

TheaBrandt1 · 11/08/2025 11:30

Don’t do sumner in the alps if you want the sunbathe thing can be very erratic I know of what I speak!

Goldbar · 11/08/2025 11:36

Book the holiday of your dreams for next year and tell the three of them that it's entirely up to them whether they come or not. No negotiation, no discussion.

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