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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Have your teens effected your mental health?

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2girls76 · 07/02/2024 15:09

Just that! My mental health is at its worst because of struggling to cope with my teens behaviour and their mental health. The rollercoaster of emotions, constant worry and anxiety and the mum guilt is horrendous. Have accessed loads of support for them but nothing for myself. Did try antidepressants but I didn't need them, I wasn't depressed just so burnt out with dealing with my teen. Struggling to see a light at the end of the tunnel and worried this might be our lives now.
So just wondering how everyone else copes and what help there is out there for parents?

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DarkChocHolic · 10/09/2024 11:14

I got DD 121 cross fit sessions and bribed her with clothes vouchers.
Still didn't work.
She just isn't ready. Adhd and asd so much harder to motivate

TISSHA · 10/09/2024 22:04

@SheUltra good to hear that you had good results with a personal trainer, it’s something I’ve been thinking would do him so much good as well. Now it is getting him to get on board with the idea. Once he’d done one session I think he’d be fine, but it’s making that first step that will be an absolute battle.

SheUltra · 10/09/2024 22:16

TISSHA · 10/09/2024 22:04

@SheUltra good to hear that you had good results with a personal trainer, it’s something I’ve been thinking would do him so much good as well. Now it is getting him to get on board with the idea. Once he’d done one session I think he’d be fine, but it’s making that first step that will be an absolute battle.

Yeah. I hear you. Over on the thread I got the idea from it was a mom with a teen boy. I’m guessing there was something about being a bit aspirational? A fit 20 something with a purpose is more identifiable than a menopausal old mum.

im saying that as an ultra runner with a professional job etc but to my teen I’m not that inspiring!

Anisty · 11/09/2024 10:06

Massively with my eldest DS - at aged 14, and seemingly out of the blue, he walked out in front of a lorry. By massive fortune, he only managed to injure his legs and by more fortune and skill from surgeons, his foot was saved and, physically, no disability remained.

However, the psychiatrists 'couldn't get inside his head' and diagnosed prodromal schizophrenia. He said he'd had hallucinations beforehand. This turned out to probably be a bad reaction to Propranolol, which he was on for benign tremor.

However, when he came home from hospital, i have never been as close to breakdown at any other point in my life. He was discharged with no follow up care. In the end, we paid for a few private sessions for him.

He left home at 18, which was of huge relief to me. I just felt i had got him to adulthood, done my best and out of sight, out of mind.

Especially as he was not good at keeping in touch. Fast forward 15 years, he is settled with a partner, job and DD of his own. We see him about 3 times a year (we are 7 hours drive time apart) He never developed schizophrenia.

He was such an easy baby and adorable little boy. It is hard to comprehend the change as a teen. Suffice it to say, i don't feel as close to him as our other kids. I think, mentally, i have subconsciously detatched from him a bit.

My mum was a suicide when i was a teen - she went to the railway line. DS never knew that - couldn't believe he did something so similar; it was like a family curse. Very, very hard for me to process.

Chrysanthemum5 · 11/09/2024 17:11

@Anisty so sorry to hear that sending you flowers Flowers

TISSHA · 12/09/2024 07:39

@Anisty , what a very sad situation. I’m so sorry. I simply can’t imagine getting through that as a Mum, and how it must have felt for you; you are amazing. I’m so glad that you have both come out the other side.

I’m scared of the prospect of detaching from DS - not consciously, but that the difficulties and endless worry over a long period of time might make me retreat from him mentally in order to stay sane/well/balanced. I love him so deeply, so utterly but I do worry about it so much.

mirabella99 · 12/09/2024 08:24

Yes - my ds,now 19, had severe OCD/anxiety from the age of 15. It almost broke him and the family - and I bore the brunt of it. He is now on medication and it has been life changing - he is even going to university - this time last year we weren't sure he was going to make it through the week.

A few things that helped me. Having a few very good friends that I could tell everything to. A supportive partner. Going out into nature every day for a walk. Seeing my ds's CBT therapist once in a while to off load. Giving support to other people on mumsnet. Volunteering.

How people cope when they don't have access to the above is beyond me - it's so so hard.

ShirtyBertie · 12/09/2024 08:55

Sorry to hear about so many people struggling, although it helps to feel less alone with my own struggles.
I thought everything was fine with my 14yo DD until she attempted suicide. Now we are all in tatters.

treacledan71 · 12/09/2024 09:07

Hi. Sorry not posted or given any support. Mad at work. Well it's started again him not going in. Been told if I asked him why! I don't expect any comments back or support as I am rubbish at giving it. Jusr thought update. I fed up.of it all anyway. Feel teachers think I am mad. Anyway hugs to you all.

Anisty · 12/09/2024 11:58

ShirtyBertie · 12/09/2024 08:55

Sorry to hear about so many people struggling, although it helps to feel less alone with my own struggles.
I thought everything was fine with my 14yo DD until she attempted suicide. Now we are all in tatters.

So sorry to hear this - there's a thread 'parents and carers of anxious teens' where a few of us are in the same boat (i posted on this thread about my DS1 but i also have DD2 who was in a bad place last year and took OD)

School stress mainly (it was a cry for help, she didn't actually want to die)
We are in a much better place now as she left school but it is a shattering event for sure.

I think it's more common than reports would suggest as 'failed attempts' are lumped in with 'self harm' And there is an epedemic of teen self harm rn.
Still a stigma though that makes you question all your parenting decisions.

Anisty · 13/09/2024 01:45

Thanks @TISSHA - sorry i never noticed your post earlier on. Yes, i quite amazed myself getting through that time tbh - esp as at that time i had 5 kids - ranging from 3 yrs old to 17yrs, and one of my other DS has autism with cognitive disability too (ironically he himself has been a dream to parent though i did have a fair few battles with school staff over support; another story!)

I do have a great DH though and i think, when that happened with DS1, initially we both must have gone into a shock reaction as we were so calm. He was in hosp for 2 months having reconstruction on his foot.

But the toughest time of all was when he came home with no MH support at all. His behaviour was very concerning; he was doing some weird religious stuff and of course with that schizophrenia mention, we were worried sick. Locking the door at night and removing the key. The psychiatrist at the hosp had told us he was not suicidal but that did not put my mind at rest one bit!

Of course this is how i spent my teen years with a suicidal mum; just could not believe it was all happening again. He wasn't depressed, his behaviour was more bizarre. He didnt drink or do drugs at all. We had 18 months very extreme worry. Then, when he met the online partner he did seem to stabilise a lot.

As i said before, once he left home, life was soooo much more relaxed and of course i had 4 others to busy myself with.

DS 1 has been with his current partner 5 years and lived away so long now, he's a proper adult with his own family so we don't worry about him at all. He's really settled down but i think he is probably autistic spectrum and under stress, could act oddly again. He never self harmed again to my knowledge (and hadn't done prior either)

There was just no warning obvious, even in hindsight. He did his paper round as normal that morning. When we saw him in hosp later than day he was calm as anything, laughed and said "oh yeah, i think i was trying to kill myself"

He repeated much the same thing to the psychiatrists. To this day, we (and he!) don't know what went on in his head that day. Thank goodness he didn't end up with life long disability or brain damage. Or dead of course.

We have had a subsequent incident with DD2 last year when she took 8 paracetamol. But nowhere near the worry of DS 1. She was crying straight away, saying she'd made a silly mistake and she'd never do it again. It was school stress. Now she has left school, she is happier already. We are waiting on a private autism asst for her as she struggled with the social aspect of high school, not the academic.

I will say to all of you struggling - parenting is MUCH harder now than it was 20 years ago when DD1 went to high school. Esp since Covid. I blame social media and poor discipline in schools. DD1 sailed through, no make up, no phone. Easy. Same school as DD2 but it's a different ball game now.

Even i have become a bit of a helicopter parent to DD2 as i have more time on my hands. DD1, eldest of 5 grew up without my noticing really! Fully capable, mature and independent by 18. She was very mentally stable always.

So, let's not blame ourselves at all. This is a combo of genetics and modern life.

TISSHA · 13/09/2024 10:45

@treacledan71 argh, I am feeling it with you. Them not being in school just consumes your thoughts All The Time. What to do? How to help? If not school, then what instead? And all the time the fear of time slipping away and the prospect of things getting harder for them. Hugs.

@ShirtyBertie - cannot imagine the absolute shock and horror of what you have been through, I have heard so often that nobody sees it coming. No one can fathom what that situation looks and feels like until you are in it. I’m so sorry.

Found a thought experiment that really resonated with me, of how to hold calm and balanced in times of difficulty, will post below in case it helps anyone else.

TISSHA · 13/09/2024 10:48

It’s slight odd, but weirdly comforts me!

Happiness isn't earned, it's noticed. You can put a lot of energy into getting to a position where happiness is easier to notice. But if you've ever felt underwhelmed about an achievement, you know that the happiness isn't automatic. Instead, you need to practice noticing happiness around you. It's actually a rather common and accessible emotion, we just usually tune out most of the sources for it because they are trivial.
Every rock around you has a story, has an architecture, has a texture. Will those details ever matter in the bigger context of your life? Probably not. But that's no reason not to enjoy them anyways. Pick up a rock and look at it until you find something you like. Then drop it, grab another, and do it again. With just a little practice, you'll build an entire little system in your own head for appreciating rocks, and pretty soon you can get a little bit of happiness just looking at a rock.
That extends to everything. Flowers, trees, wind, clouds, knots, cars, rain, rural diners, children's sports matches, library bathrooms, parking lots, garage sale signs, everything. The universe has an infinite supply of detail, and there's no good reason not to learn to appreciate that. When you do, you gain this kind of superpower where you can find small joy in any situation. The only reason most of us don't learn to practice this skill is because we were told it's a waste of time by people who never figured it out.
With a lot of practice, this can even help you out during times of intense grief, sadness, panic, or pain. When your mind is drowning in a negative experience, it's a very powerful trick to be able to say "Wow, this sucks in a neat way. How interesting that a person can hurt like this. What a world!" It doesn't make the bad feelings go away, it doesn't fix whatever problem caused them, but even in the depths of despair you can shine a little light and remember that your mind is yours to orchestrate.

DarkMilkChocolate · 15/09/2024 09:33

Hi, thank you for starting this thread. It has been really helpful to read everyone’s experiences and not feel so alone and I’m sorry to hear how much everyone has been through. Spent around 10 hours in a and e at the weekend as my son went out and bought drugs as he just wanted to stop feeling things, a cry for help rather than a suicide attempt I think but it was a lot of drugs.

I can’t believe I missed he was struggling so much. He has had problems in the past including psychosis and risky/impulsive behaviour, it things had settles down and i was just thinking how everything seems to be getting so much better this year!

My daughter is being assessed for neurodivergence and has been through a lot since moving to her high school. Feeling like a terrible mum, just naive and I’ve no idea how it all got so bad. I thought I could be a good mum but I just feel I’m not and they just deserve much better.

Chrysanthemum5 · 15/09/2024 09:49

@DarkMilkChocolate I think we all feel like we are terrible parents at times on this journey. And I'm pretty certain we are not, but the lack of support means we are all doing this on our own and trying to find a way through.

That's why this thread is so helpful because you can see all of us struggling so you know it's not just you

lavenderlou · 15/09/2024 13:52

Sorry to hear do many sad stories. Everyone sounds like they are doing the best they can. I am a couple of years into the journey and am so worn down that I know I'm not always as supportive to my DD as I should be.

I wish there were more mental health support. I believe some decent, autism-friendly therapy could help my DD. I filled out a questionnaire with GP surgery recently to review DD's melatonin prescription. They rang up and asked me to come in as her anxiety sounds so bad. The appointment was pointless. We've already had a CAMHS referral rejected. The GP basically told me to look privately. She's already seen a counsellor privately for months but needs something more specialist which is hard to find and is costly.

Wishing everyone well.

ShirtyBertie · 16/09/2024 22:14

My heart goes out to you all. We're all trying so hard and it's so shit.

Just sitting having a quiet cry. I know that feeling of being too worn down to respond as you'd like to.

TheBers2024 · 16/09/2024 22:20

You aren't their friend. You are their role model.
They learn from you and hopefully they know you love them unconditionally. But you don't have to be friends.

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RhinestoneCowgirl · 17/09/2024 04:31

I'm awake because I'm worrying about a CAMHS meeting with 15yr old DD later today. She attempted suicide two weeks ago as she couldn't face going back to school. It was a total shock as although she is on a waiting list for an autism assessment, I naively thought that we had suitable accommodations in place that were helping. We saw CAMHS last year after a previous crisis ('only' self harm) and they discharged us as she didn't meet their threshold for support. We arranged private art therapy for six months and a variety of other things to help her. Turns out it wasn't enough.

This stuff makes you feel crazy. I had sleeping pills prescribed by GP last week, but they are locked in the car because I'm too frightened to have them in the house. Our kitchen knives are hiding in DH's wardrobe.

It's shit, and I feel so sad that so many of us are in this position.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/09/2024 06:47

Good luck with the CAMHS meeting RhinestoneCowgirl x

We went through a phase where we had to have the kitchen knives in a locked box. He is doing a lot better now.

TiredTiredTiredTiredBloodySoddingTired · 17/09/2024 06:57

I'm sonreassured by this thread. I've just sicivered my 15 yo dd has been watching porn. Ffs.

And she hates me because I found out.

I'm exhausted, but I don't support her, apparently.

RhinestoneCowgirl · 17/09/2024 07:08

Thanks Countess, I know the reality of it won't be as bad as I'm imagining. And it's good to be reminded that things change, I'm still hyper vigilant and have to keep reminding myself that it's such early days.

GlassLampshades · 17/09/2024 15:43

Just found this thread. Please no judgement. I'm going through an enormous amount in my life at the minute.

I have a 12 Yr old and a 15 Yr old. Both boys. Both are OK on the surface. 15 Yr old seems genuinely OK after tough years in primary. They are ethnic minority in a very white place and have struggled with racism etc.

12 Yr old sailed through primary however is now a great worry. Basically I worry myself sick all day every day. Work is my safe space but if anything happens with either of them I just spiral. I really struggle to be resilient.

I was a nightmare teen in the mid to late 90s with severe mental health issues, very defiant, dishonest, selfish and a nightmare who self harmed. I'm doing great now, university degree, lovely husband, house, good job, love my boys, have friends and hobbies. I don't know if that's comforting at all.

12 Yr old is scarily similar to me in so many ways. Won't speak, closed book, hides everything, has been in serious trouble at school last year and also has brought the police to our door over a silly incident (criminal damage - not minimising but just meaning it wasn't assault or anything) So he is waiting for a decision from youth justice on how he will be dealt with. Now today I've seen messages where he's been attempting unsuccessfully to buy vapes on Snapchat.

He doesn't have a phone currently but uses mine for Snapchat and tiktok. Hence me seeing the messages. I'm reluctant to confront him as he is likely to shut down even more. Getting him to open up at all is a nightmare and I'm trying to keep the lines open if at all possible. There's intense sibling rivalry as well as the 15 Yr old sees the 12 Yr old as the golden child who sails through life and seems to hate him which is also very damaging.

He's very bright but uninterested and unengaged in school as it bores him. He is very sporty and that keeps him interested in school as he is picked to play for the school team etc.

He seems to gravitate to friendships that really concern me. Had a lovely group of friends in primary but moved to secondary and became focused on being cool and seems to hang about with troublemakers. He has an overwhelming desire to fit in. I think he lacks confidende and self esteem but comes across as arrogant. We are very strict, especially since he was in trouble with the police. He rarely goes out, and spends all his time online gaming with online friends he has never met. He doesn't game with real life friends.

I miss my beautiful, sensitive, clever light of my life. I think he probably has ADHD, as do I.

I just feel like it's such a roller coaster and so hard to keep going and keep the stamina up. I feel like I'm so unqualified to navigate all of this and I didn't agree to work as a 24/7 emotional coach and unqualified therapist to my children. I don't know who to turn to as I'm so scared of being judged as a bad parent. The mental toll is enormous.

RhinestoneCowgirl · 17/09/2024 18:20

You have a huge amount to deal with @GlassLampshades , no judgement here, and I'm sure other posters would agree.

"I didn't agree to work as a 24/7 emotional coach and unqualified therapist to my children." This very much resonated with me. It's so intense and I am always wondering if I'm doing/saying the right thing. Also some of my DD's experiences are uncomfortably similar to my own teen years. I thought I would be ready for this.

On a practical note about tech/phones, we took DD's phone away completely for first week after she was discharged from hospital. She hated us but we'd found her secret YouTube channel and there was some pretty disturbing stuff on there. She now has the phone back with some very strict rules in place. It stays downstairs at all times, and she can only have access between certain times. CAMHS advised us on this and she will earn more access as we build trust again.

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