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Teenagers

Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Just a friendly hand hold for any other mums of teens

964 replies

Pleasegivemeyourwisdom · 01/10/2022 22:25

I've 3.

It's a 'journey'.Confused

Just in case anyone wants to know another trying her best mum is thinking of them Grin

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Dysregulatedmother · 24/10/2022 11:45

Haven’t been on mumsnet since DD15 was tiny. Found it invaluable then. Had to call the police out to her last night as she’d trashed her room. All because I’ve dared to ask for my Tiffany necklace back that I know she’s taken and now can’t find. She was dumped by her first boyfriend just over a week ago and seemed to be handling it pretty well. My autistic DS12 called them as he couldn’t cope with the arguing. She’s destroyed lots of things in her room and kicked me so hard I woke up every time I turned over last week. She’s had one other similar incident in the summer but it’s unusual. She has private counselling I stump up for to help her with frenemy issues. I’m at wits’ end and needed that kind outstretched hand. This is so hard.

AlwaysSomethingWithTeens · 24/10/2022 12:32

You can tell I'm in the same boat as the rest of you with my username...

One DD spending loads of time revising so trying to make sure she doesn't go over the top.

Younger DD (probably defining herself against her sister) getting into minor trouble at school, stroppy, hates doing anything with us (makes me so sad). Lots of little battles all the time.

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 24/10/2022 12:46

FlowersFlowersFlowers for us all. We deserve them.

Snuggleworm · 24/10/2022 14:19

When does it realisitcally end though?

Have been through the mill with our one and only 18 year old DD. Still going though it. She has an eating disorder but on the mend.Dropped out of school but decided last minute to do her leaving cert exams. Got a place in college and has now dropped out of college after 3 weeks. Left her part time job. Broke up with her boyfriend and is now back with him.
Won't speak to a counsellor but expects me to be one at all times. But then pushes me away also. I am going through the menopause too so it is difficult.

Please tell me it gets better? Or should things be easier already now that she is 18?

lechatnoir · 24/10/2022 16:11

RomeoRomeo1 · 23/10/2022 12:53

It’s so hard, currently sitting here waiting for my daughters friend to be collected having just had a mouthful for embarrassing her in front of her friend by daring to knock on her door and ask her what her plans were. 🤷‍♀️. I can never do anything right, despite spending the vast majority of my life walking on eggshells around her and doing everything to try and not rock the boat. It is so hard to not feel so miserable all the time. It’s like being in an abusive relationship that you are stuck with 😫. Hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel often.

It really does feel like that sometimes doesn't it.

I can't see how DS & I will even have a good relationship again and that's heartbreaking. I know everyone says they'll grow out of it, but we just don't talk anymore and have grown apart so much, there's really nothing to come back to 😔.
I'm just leaving DS to do his own thing this half term which he's delighted about - I just haven't got the energy to argue over washing, cooking or being on the Xbox all night - I'm working FT, my dad is in hospital awaiting likely cancer test results and I'm just about to start HRT so can barely function without adding any sort of teenage drama. Shit parenting but needs must. (oh how I would judge me 5 years ago!!)

lechatnoir · 24/10/2022 16:17

Snuggleworm · 24/10/2022 14:19

When does it realisitcally end though?

Have been through the mill with our one and only 18 year old DD. Still going though it. She has an eating disorder but on the mend.Dropped out of school but decided last minute to do her leaving cert exams. Got a place in college and has now dropped out of college after 3 weeks. Left her part time job. Broke up with her boyfriend and is now back with him.
Won't speak to a counsellor but expects me to be one at all times. But then pushes me away also. I am going through the menopause too so it is difficult.

Please tell me it gets better? Or should things be easier already now that she is 18?

We all pin our hopes on this magic "it's better by 18" but I guess in reality they all develop and mature at different rates and yes you could have another year or so of this. BUT, if her ED is getting under control that will be a massive shift and hopefully if she can find some focus in life whether that's work or college. Boyfriend drama is never helpful and whatever you say is likely to be wrong. Sorry nothing helpful to add but understanding and empathy

shmiz · 25/10/2022 09:38

Oh goodness
really feeling it this morning !!
15 yr old DD
friendship issues
calls from school yesterday - she’s out of class upset, panic attack
trigger is her ‘friends’ laughing at her
this morning going into school she’s feeling sick / anxious
stressing about her skin make up etc
asking if she can stay home
thoughts of self harming
I wish that would resolve it by keeping her off
but I know it won’t
she’s got other friends and needs to build on this
i feel powerless and broken
I know I should be supportive and empathic and I really am, but when she’s hurting I’m hurting too !!! I don’t know how to regulate my emotional response so that we aren’t both broken !!!
just really feeling the stress right now - work, money, etc. and the emotional rollercoaster of teenage relationships is a massive stressor ….
just needed to vent !
thanks

BorryMum · 25/10/2022 09:56

Thank you @Pleasegivemeyourwisdom for starting this thread. I've seen so many where people all say 'I wouldn't let my child behave or act like that' and when I had younger kids I might have judged a bit too. Walk a mile in my shoes is so true and when you have difficult teens it can be a very lonely place to be. Just reading all the posts and realising I'm not alone has helped so much, keep going everyone x

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 25/10/2022 10:30

Some really hard reads in here

For my own sake I do the following on those days when it's really hard

1.swim or take exercise that helps you. It does help

  1. Talk. I talk to my friends or dh I do t tell my mum a lot as then she would
Worry too
  1. Gently steer child to help if they will accept it. We had to go private. But it's massively helped all of us as she is calmer.
  2. School. Talk to school and tell them what's happening if your getting school refusal. They can and should help.
  3. Do things for you. I listen to a book in my headphones or a podcast. I enjoy 5live.
  4. Try to remember nothing stays the same for ever. Parenting doesn't get easier it just changes.

❤️

Mindthegap725 · 25/10/2022 10:53

shmiz I think you raise a really important point! I did it all wrong at the start of teen hood and followed my teen girls down a rabbit hole of stress and anxiety and it did not do them or me any good in retrospect. It’s hard when you have a close relationship and one day you suddenly realise that you are feeling happy because they are happy, or are feeling stressed and depressed because they are too. Added to that you feel hurt, bewildered and rejected by them too. It all creeps up on you!

Much better to take a slight step back emotionally and model self care, resilience and cheerfulness (without being a Pollyanna about it) and pursue some activities of your own, because teens in particular do what you do and not as you say.

Still keep the lines of communication open of course and be available for all the important things, but don’t forget yourself in the parenting process. Teens aren’t always the most unselfish of people and you can end up feeling really drained and weary if you are always available at every given moment on their terms only. They have to fit in with you sometimes! Not least because life with teens is very up and down like a rollercoaster, and you need to be the person who is the stable, even anchor point among all of the angst! It’s really, really hard not to feel beaten down at times though.

Snuggleworm I have found that things have improved massively at eighteen but it is still very much a work in progress. This adolescent period of brain plasticity is meant to continue until 24 or 25 years when their frontal cortex meets up with their limbic system (or something like that!). Hang in there, it will get better! I promise!

Sorry for the long rambling post but that’s the main message I want to get across to lechatnoir and others who are worried that their relationship with your child won’t ever be the same again. Speaking about myself and most cases of friends and family, relations have all returned to normal after a few years! Sometimes it takes the teen being away from home for a while to appreciate it properly! Your relationship will be slightly different as they establish themselves as an independent adult, and as long as you respect that as an adult, your relationship will improve, so keep strong! In the vast majority of cases, it will be ok!

I found it all easier once I had properly grasped what a teenager is, which sounds pretty obvious, but it is confusing when you are in the middle of the storm. Snuggleworm describes it as going through the mill and it’s just that. Teens, by definition, are twixt and between. Ready to do exams one minute, then dropping out the next. Ready to commit to a course, then dropping out again. In other words, they have adult ambitions, but are sometimes not fully equipped emotionally or physically to fulfill them, and it sometimes takes a period of stepping back three times before stepping forward once. But with a bit of guidance and support, most teens make it through.

And despite us parents feeling horribly helpless and frustrated, don’t underestimate the power of you just being there as the parent who weathers the storms. A solid presence. Someone who will hold on to the emotional hot potatoes when they get too hot for teens to handle. And handing them back to them when they feel stronger. Sometimes just “being there” and standing by in the sidelines, in a supportive way, is the most helpful thing of all!

Mindthegap725 · 25/10/2022 10:55

Really good advice from HeBeaverandSheBeaver

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 25/10/2022 12:35

@Mindthegap725

Alway wise words

AlwaysSomethingWithTeens · 25/10/2022 12:53

Thanks for the encouraging words @HeBeaverandSheBeaver and @Mindthegap725 - much needed

I came back here today for a bit of handholding because I really struggle with the rejection. I know they aren't going to want to do things with me like they used to, but they just don't want to do anything - even away from the main bit of town. I really struggle to hide how rejected it makes me feel.

I've left them to it and come out into the sunshine. But it still makes me sad.

shmiz · 25/10/2022 12:58

@Mindthegap725 you are my new hero ! such wise, helpful words !
And thank you to all of you for being here -
its such a hard, emotive, draining time that also brings so many laughs and highs too !!!
thanks again :)

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 25/10/2022 13:23

I miss days out too. Dd will come shopping or for food or coffee sometimes but she has her friends and will ditch us for them.

Ds won't come out or if he does makes is unenviable be moaning the whole time. Last time he came out was a car show and he was actually pleasant company. He is coming up for 15.

Dd is nearly 17.

Mindthegap725 · 25/10/2022 15:06

Thanks Shmiz and Alwayssomethingwithteens I wish I could say that things were calm and perfect here but they are quite far from that today as it happens! 😀 But overall, things are gradually improving. I will have considerably less hair, and a much plumper midriff by the time my dds fully emerge as young fully independent adults (insomnia + stress eating) but we are getting there!

Agree though, it is a very emotive time and it’s good to be able to vent a bit!

HeBeaverandSheBeaver I have a feeling that we may have met on a previous teen thread 😁.

Alwayssomethingwithteens* sorry you are feeling sad today - it is a lonely time - but well done for getting outside 💐

steppemum · 25/10/2022 17:13

Hi all,
I just want to encourage you all.
My dear brother was a horrible teen. He hated my parents, he kicked against the terrible borgeoisness of their lives. Simmered through Christmas dinners etc.
He left home aged 17 and went to uni in London, and came home as briefly as possible for the next few years.
He once said that he would never have kids as he wouldn't want to be the recipient of all that hatred.
He was a big weed smoker, to the extent that I wondered if he would ever stop

Age mid twenties I remember him having a long heart to heart with my mum one night over a glass of wine. He said then that despite everything he said as a teen, the fact that they were there at the end of the M4, always stopped him from doing some of the worst things he might have done. It was really important to him that he knew he could turn up on their doorstep at any time and that they would be there if he got into trouble.

He then met an amazing lady (now my SIL) who told him weed or her, so he ditched it. He is now a fantastic Dad with 3 teens of his own.
And he is really close to my Mum and Dad and loves them, and sees them loads.

So there is hope, however horrible they are now. x x

steppemum · 25/10/2022 17:23

BorryMum

I have a 19 year old ds. Nowat uni, but in his last year at home he often smoked weed in the garden.
I asked him not to 100 times etc.
In the end I exploded. I told him that when he owned his own home he could do what he liked, but it was our home and we had some rules that were ours whether he liked them or not. One was no weed on our premises at all, not house, not garden, not even in his car on the driveway. No smoking, not weed stored in his room nothing.

Our reasoning (apart from the smell and smoke) was that we both have jobs which would be adversely effected by a visit from the police.

We told him if he would not comply with this rule, he would have to leave.

I think he was shocked by the ultimatum and the firmness of it. But since then I have not smelt it in our home.

So yes - your home, your rules, don't like it then leave. There does come a point when you need to say that I think.

BorryMum · 26/10/2022 14:20

@steppemum I really appreciate your advice and your experience. I have told him he will have to go and his response was 'call the police then' so it's going to be a rocky ride. We have written a firm but kind letter asking him to find accommodation and move out which we will give him in the next week. I'm really hoping it turns out like your brother in the end but only time will tell

steppemum · 26/10/2022 16:01

Borrymum - my ds is in second year at uni.
Living away from home has mad ehim more independent but also more appreciative and we can see that he is becoming a grown up.
he is quite nice to be around mostly now!
Leaving home is a good thing for most 18 year olds I think

Pleasegivemeyourwisdom · 26/10/2022 19:59

Sending you all a glass of virtual wine / drink of choice tonight!

I’m lying on my bed with my fake oodie on feeling like life ran me over today. Not depressed. Just knackered. Just doing basic life. Just making it all happen (or not!)

I am pooped but your Handholds help me no end, as I know there’s no judgement here and we can cumulatively take the highs and the lows when we know we are not alone and can vent without being jumped upon.

thank you!

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Mindthegap725 · 26/10/2022 20:58

Tough week but it is ending on a better than it started!

Very encouraging posts steppemum :)

Cheers to Pleasegivemeyourwisdom and everyone else on here!

Mindthegap725 · 26/10/2022 20:59

A better note that is !

megletthesecond · 26/10/2022 21:14

Today my 15yo DS is pissed off I won't let him go to sleepover of boys and girls. Give me strength......

Starlightstarbright1 · 26/10/2022 21:24

So glad i found this thread.

My Ds (15) has no interest but if i ever go out seems to be a backlash..

I went out last weekend. Followed by Sunday all hell breaks loose.. He want s to live in a normal home - apparently this is one without rules.🙄

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