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Parenting teenagers has its ups and downs. Get advice from Mumsnetters here.

Holding on to the end of the rope; life in the bunker with the Po Ts, where parenting a teen is having an adverse effect on our mental health

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Pegsinarow · 13/05/2019 08:31

With thanks to Billybagpuss for inspiration for the title and to Ticklingcheese and many other parents of teens who are emerging from the worst, or currently going through it, this is a support thread for parents who are being driven to despair by their teens. It is a continuation of this previous thread where many of us clubbed together to exchange experiences, possible strategies and understanding of what can be a very draining, isolating and distressing time for all!

Tin hats on everybody for round two! Smile

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Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 08:09

Good morning Po Ts! Sorry to have been absent from the thread for a bit.

Hello to all the newcomers! Just going to grab a cup of coffee and catch up ... .

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Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 08:21

Oh I meant to add that we have just had the most hideous weekend with dd who was monosyllabic and surly when we left her to her own devices, and a ball of fury, anger and resentment when spoken to. She was miserable when left alone, and miserable when I took her out one-on-one for an ice cream and a walk in the park (which was her suggestion). Can't win!

To quote MrsBlondie I don't feel I can cope with the hatred either Sad Feel like crying tbh.

And yet when she went off to school this morning she seemed quite cheerful and happy as if nothing had happened Confused Utterly bemusing!

She may be walzing off to school unburdened, but I feel totally drained frankly!

Right, sorry, having vented got that off my chest Smile to all of you who understand Smile, BBL when I have caught up! Have a good Monday morning everyone (if that is humanly possible atm!) Brew

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mcmen71 · 03/06/2019 11:53

pegs welcome back sorry you had such a miserable time
Things are alot better for me when I say no she listens for a change.
Bank hol here today in roi so off to cinema with ds
My 2 dds at school in ni so no bank hol for them.
Nice peaceful day planned ☺
Hope all well with everyone else.

Tinkobell · 03/06/2019 13:19

@Betty.....I do like your rational answers to the outbursts! I think that makes them just look like total plonkers, which of course they hate - stick with it! If can cry then at least laugh, that's what I say.
@Pegs - that's a shame, the cold shoulder treatment is awful, we've had that many a time and it ties your head in knots, and, just at the point that you're about to burst into tears, they waltz out the house smiling and oblivious. I honestly think I'm going mad here sometimes!
We have A Levels and GCSE's here this week - Joy! Just trying to keep the tempo calm, no big tiffs, I'm determined. This often involves me having to kick DH under the table as he has a natural tendency to be 'picky' and then matters rapidly escalate. DD is carrying on with counselling and it's doing no harm as far as I can tell, I'm just urging her to try and talk. So that's us. DS anxious about GCSE's so late night meltdowns are a regular feature of life in our house, which works wonders for my ongoing battle with anxiety and insomnia. I'm trying another self help guide and hemp oil this week.

Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 14:00

Thank you for the welcome back McMen71 genuinely fab to hear the positive news that things are so much better with you and yours [yay!] That's really great! Smile

And again, a warm welcome to all newcomers!

Thank you Tinkobell as ever, it is extremely comforting to be able to share on here and realise that the same pattern of exchanges are being played out in other households and not just ours! Very best of luck to your dc for their exams this week (and good luck to you too Grin!) [Passes over tin hat.]

Huge sympathies Xerox with: "and worst of all he says it’s because his life is so shit living with us. Objectively this is nonsense but I can see he believes it and just moans all the time about how much he hates us Sad.

I know all the books say that it's no good arguing objectively, if they don't feel loved, or can't feel it perhaps, then there is no point banging on about how you go to great lengths to alter your life to accommodate their needs and wishes, and how much you adore them etc etc, because they can't comprehend it. But hell! How far down that rabbit hole are we supposed to go with them?

I know its outside of her experience but dd has a hugely better life than I did at her age. I don't want her to grow up thinking "oh woe is me" because frankly she is bloomin' privileged and I want her to appreciate that fact and yes, call me old-fashioned, show a smidgeon of gratitude. Anyway, material things aren't really the point here, she has had so much more attention and focus and time from me and dh than I did growing up. And yet "everything is crap" apparently, we are crap parents, and everything ( in comparison to her friends' lives) is crap. [sigh]

It's so damned depressing ... and yet, and yet, we're meant to model remaining upbeat, calm and relatively cheerful Confused

Here's hoping it is a very short phase MrsBlondie Smile Not sure how much more I can stand atm tbh [stand] her attitude casts such a dark shadow over everything. And you have my total sympathy re: the harsh language. It is so bloody hurtful!

I know similar things have been said on this thread but I need to print out BettyBishop's wise words "For everyone experiencing sheer nastiness and vitriol, your children do not mean it I guarantee it. They are angry about something else but can’t express it effectively or politely- they love you and need you, at least that’s what I choose to believe" and stick it under my pillow". Hear hear to that! (And I hope things are calmer in your household soon.)

Glad you are feeling a bit better off the migraine meds Tarrara Thinking of your ds today! I hope he isn't too upset with exam stress Flowers And well done re: running!

Ledkr noted about reconciliation gestures!

Please don't feel awful MrsEffington you sound like such a wonderful mother Flowers You have recognised the issue and have sought help for your dd. I hope she will come through this experience stronger for it and you will be out of the tunnel soon Flowers

I hope this exam week is not too stressful in your household Fleetheart hang in there!

Oh you must feel so stressed and worried Neversaygoodbye Flowers Brew Cake. Remember you are doing your job by being there, holding on to the end of the rope, by worrying, by questioning, by arranging the therapy (glad to hear that is proving helpful btw) and yes, by being uncertain about how to help and what to do sometimes. We are only human. It's like teetering on a high wire sometimes isn't it (it's all about the " boingy thin line" as referenced by 8FenchingWire) ? One never knows if one is taking the right step or not. But that's all part of it I think. I think we need to accept that we are allowed to be uncertain and that we don't have all the answers. It's uncomfortable but that's how it is.

How are you RJnomore1 ? You are going through hellish times and I can't imagine how hard it must be for you and your dd. Glad to hear your dh is a good source of support but I hope you won't hesitate to reach out for more for yourself if you haven't done so already Flowers Oh and grrrrr to tosser bfs!

Fwiw Ledkr I think your solution to the holiday money conundrum is really wise and sensible.

Waves to Cobblersandhogwash, Mogloves Nutcutlet Billy Tickling Whattodoffs BigSandyballs and anyone else I have inadvertently missed! (So sorry if I have missed anyone out btw - can't scrolll very well on this particular device - and feel a bit muddled/foggy in my head today after such a stressful weekend!). Suffice to say, there is so much in all of these posts that I have been nodding away at and thinking "oh yes, we have that too" and "yes, that is so true"!

And last but definitely not least, Tinkobell you set a very good example to us all having acupuncture! We all need to do something similar (or equivalent) to protect ourselves from stress - as Billy says it's so easy to get consumed by trying to fix everything - and we forget ourselves in the process. Also, it's great to be able to vent about our teens' behaviour on here but it also would be good to focus on what we are doing for ourselves to combat the angst too!

Be kind to yourselves Po Ts!

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Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 14:05

Oh and here's a happy thought ... even though it doesn't seem like it ... things could be even worse. Having just watched the news just now, we can all take a breath and be thankful we are not Melania Trump!

Grin Wink

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Ticklingcheese · 03/06/2019 15:00

Ewww pegs re. Melania, just goes to show, money is great but it can come with too great a cost.

Close your eyes and think of your country the money 🤮.

Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 15:23

Tickling Grin

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shadypines · 03/06/2019 15:42

Just a quick hello from a newbie, (another menopausal mum of a teen and a 20yr, does that make me a MOTT aswell?!) I have lurked quietly in the background for the last few weeks trying to catch up with the original thread and now this one.

May I say all you PoTs show the most amazing strength and character day in and day out, doing the world's toughest job. Let's face it if this was any other job (we had to apply and train for) we'd have all been issued with hard hat/full suit of armour and an instruction manual as thick as all 32 volumes of the Encyclopedia Britaninica! The salary would be off the scale, at least 6 figures! The level of support given on this thread is totally amazing.

Mine are 17 (DD) and 20 (DS) and I've been through 'it' the most with DD to the point where some days I could have just walkout out and not returned. More settled now with the occassional 'blast from the past' but they are just a constant worry with one thing or another. And it may have been Daintytoes that said 'phones are the root of all evil' and I couldn't agree more. My goodness you only have to look around at the number of adults addicted to them aswell as teenagers, it's depressing.

On a lighter note, was Donald (Trump) falling asleep? His head was certainly nodding! Grin

Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 15:55

Good to "see" you *Shady! Gosh yes about the salary, although I'm not sure people would take the job on if they knew what was involved, even with the promise of six figures! Grin Congrats on "reaching the other side"! 🏆

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Neversaygoodbye · 03/06/2019 16:00

Thank you for the welcome. My heart goes out to everyone struggling through these teen years, it's a wander anyone survives and comes out the other side...but clearly they do, so I'll be hanging on in there and hoping for happier times. I've got a 12yr old DS so I'm trying not to stress about what he may have in store for me, all calm waters on his front at the moment, long may it continue.

Ticklingcheese · 03/06/2019 16:18

shady hi 👋
Really haven't got anything meaningful to say today, re. Donald think all toddlers need their naps 😁.

shadypines · 03/06/2019 16:19

Ha, thanks Pegs but I don't feel like I am 'on the other side' yet, perhaps when they reach middle-age (and I'm in my 80's.....) I'll relax a bit Grin

Xeroxarama · 03/06/2019 18:51

Minor win here today when I announced I would not be buying random new clothes until manners significantly improved. Pleasantness has broken out, if only briefly!

Pegsinarow · 03/06/2019 19:48

Bravo Xerox Enjoy it while you can!

You too Neversaygoodbye! Hope the waters remain calm. Smile

That's a terrifying thought Shady! Grin

Heavens yes re: Toddler Trump Tickling Grin. Or impulsive teen perhaps?

G'night all!

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Ledkr · 03/06/2019 19:56

Mine is going away with her friends family on Thursday.
She also has college work to finish by then.
She has done no packing and is currently wearing the new clothes she has bought for it.
I am working all week so will be doing no washing so she will have to take it dirty.
She isn't feeling too well but is currently planning to go into town to meet friends I suggested that she might be better off resting so she's not ill for her holiday
I of course got ignored and snapped at.
I cannot tell you how much I am looking forward to the break without her.

littlebillie · 03/06/2019 21:37

I have started walking each 40 minutes to 1 hour - it's good not to have a teen around. My MH has improved immensely

Tinkobell · 03/06/2019 21:43

Tonight I'm trying an early night and slow breathing in bed. Had a very sweaty menopausal night last night that was not good.
DD18 told me "Love Island" starts tonight and she must watch it. I said it's a load of women in high heels, sticking their chests out and wearing fluorescent thongs and baby-oiled blokes. Maybe there is more content than that ....am I missing something? Still. If it keeps her happy. I did gently enquire about revison for tomorrow's A level and was told she'd be up all night and neck a few Pro Plus before the exam...sarcasm.
Welcome all newcomers, you're in great company here!

Tinkobell · 03/06/2019 21:44

@Ledkr ....do share your mums respite plans! Have you got some nice treats in store?! make the most of it!

Ledkr · 03/06/2019 22:23

Tink. I am actually going to a wedding at the weekend in Scotland. Just me and dh flying up and staying two nights. I'm so excited.
Does anyone remember getorfmoiland? Well. She's an old mum netter and it's her wedding.
The rest of the respite will. Be spent like a normal person and working etc but without the rudeness and stress 😜

MrsBlondie · 03/06/2019 22:36

@ledkr enjoy the tern free time! Jealous!

@xeroxrama tonight we've had "you're crap parents" etc too. "Hate my life living in this family".
Must admit Im getting better at not letting it get to me now.

MrsBlondie · 03/06/2019 22:38

And Ive just had "of course Im not alright, you're here". FFS. He really knows how to be mean.

Pegsinarow · 04/06/2019 06:48

Good morning! Hope you had a better night Tinkobell!

I hope you have a really lovely time away Ledkr! (Great that it's a Mumsnetter's wedding btw!) And I hope your DD feels better and has a good time with her friend and their family too! Maybe we should all follow you to Scotland on the grounds that it is sufficiently far away from our shouty teens? Grin Wink

LittleBillie walking sounds good!

Sending you strength and Cake MrsBlondie . Could you take him at his word a bit
maybe and be strategically "unavailable" at a moment inconvenient to him? It might get him to think a bit more about what he is saying.

Things have calmed down a bit here thank heavens. Actually had a civil (ish!) conversation last night which was a pleasant change!

Have a good day Po Ts and again, good luck to all exam candidates! 🍀

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Tinkobell · 04/06/2019 10:46

@Ledkr....oh you do enjoy, I'm well jealous! @Blondie - what a charmer he sounds, so unpleasant. He sounds angry inside and that's coming in your direction....v unfair. @Pegs - may the civil ways continue! X

shadypines · 04/06/2019 11:25

Littlebillie that sounds great, I don't drive so I walk a fair bit but my therapy to relax is craft/stitching. It's so important to have some time for yourself to do something other than battle/worry/stress/argue with or over our teens. It's important for them to see that we have a life aswell and we are not just put on god's green earth to take the flack off them 24/7.

Saying that I don't get much time to do it in peace!