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Feel so disgusted and shocked at DS - just don't want to look him in the face.

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StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 15:32

DS is 14 - soon to be fifteen. I knew he had a bit of an on/off "thing" with a girl at school but was reasonably confident that nothing much had happened. He doesn't really get much opportunity to socialise outside of school as he is very involved with a particular sport and he also goes to school in a different town to where we live but occasionally, eg in half terms, he will make arrangements to go off on his own with his school friends for the day.

First let me say I am not a prudish mother, I do not vehemently disapprove of him having girlfriends and a bit of snogging etc as to what I personally feel is appropriate for a teenager of his age. I even feel glad that he is "fancied" and seems popular.

DS and I have not been getting on lately. I catch him out in lies and he has been giving DH and I a lot of attitude which I realise is all in keeping with the normal stuff parents of teens have to go through. However, its been worse lately; he's been rebelling big time over a treatment regime he has to follow for a medical condition and yesterday, in complete exasperation and anger I told him I didn't want to speak to him for the rest of the day because I couldn't bear being spoken to with so little respect and apparent dislike.

When he was in bed and I was putting stuff away in his room I came across his phone and took it out and looked at it. I am not going to get into a debate about the rights and wrongs of that; I don't do it as rule and I realise that even 14 year olds deserve some privacy but I reserve the right to check out what it going on in his life in whatever way I can when I have concerns and we are not communicating well. He is after all, still a child.

I was shocked and horrified by what I found. Texts sent to this on/off girlfriend; REAL adult content, I mean really pornographic descriptions (again I must stress that I am not prudish about such things but I think there is a time for this and it is not at 14 years of age.) It described what he wanted to do to her in explicit detail and in words I really can't imagine him using. (I realise I am denial here, with the last statement, but sorry I just can't take that on board, that he would speak like that and then actively TELL her these things!)

I also found a short porno film, again full hardcore content but with all the sounds and close ups.

I hauled him out of bed, admitted I had looked at his phone and at what I had found. The colour drained out of his face immediately. He attempted a couple of different stories until I insisted that nothing other than the truth would suffice. He said his mates had got hold of his phone some days before he had sent the text and eventually he had sent it to her. But that they weren't his words.

I asked him if he had had sex. He denied it. I asked him if he was aware that having sex with a girl under 16 was a crime, that he (or WE!) could be prosectuted and that HE would be the only one really deemed to be in the wrong, as the male. He said yes but that he wasn't having sex.

I then cried (pathetically) and said I was disgusted and that I couldn't beleive he was either doing this stuff, or at the very least promising to by text, at 14. That 14 is very different to 16, 17 or 18 and that there will be a time in a few years when it really isn't my business but for now it is.

He was so stressed he threw up. Normally this would have appalled me; to upset him that much but it had no effect pn my last night. I just felt disgust and still do today.

He'll be home from school at 5.30 and I don't know how to deal with him. I couldn't speak to him this morning and I don't want to now or even look him in the face.

Biggest point here is I don't know what is/isn't the truth, what he is/isn't up to. He says it's only kissing and cuddling but would YOU believe that after a text like that? (You'll have to use your imagine; I can't bring myself say what it said but it involved much use of the word "pssy", fck, cock and tit w*nk, and what he wanted to do "all over her." ) (At 14 years old!!)

I am aware I may possibly be over reacting. But I can't help the way I feel. Please tell me what you think about how I should handle this.

By the way, DH was there and fully backed me up but I do feel that this is much less of a "big deal" for him. A "bloke thing" obviously.

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StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 22:47

Well I can only do my best Squirrel. I have told him that I and yes I did mean it. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.

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KerryMum · 13/06/2007 22:49

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HuwEdwards · 13/06/2007 22:52

ok, I never said all girls are/would be innocents - I just suggested I am - I would be if my DDs received a text/film like this.

But SMom, I think you've done a damn good job and will be asking you (and the esteemed Custy) for all your advice when DDs get to teenage years.

themildmanneredjanitor · 13/06/2007 23:07

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Heathcliffscathy · 13/06/2007 23:17

have only read OP.

every now and again it is worth listening to 'bloke things'

you are MASSIVELY overreacting and i feel sorry for your son.

meandmyflyingmachine · 13/06/2007 23:18

Read on.

Tortington · 13/06/2007 23:22

for what its worth i think the "privicy" for teenagers brigage are full of shit ( love you all) but so naive. i check my DDs text messages occasionally. it is after all my job to keep her safe. not so long ago i had a shit fit becuase some guy from bolton was travelling down to see his 14 yr old GF ( my dds friend) and bringing a friend with him.

all this gleened from text messages. without my knowledge my daughter could have gotten into an awfull frightening situation becuase she didn't think it through - that boys don't travel 300 miles to "visit the effing pier dear"

StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 23:23

Thanks Sophable

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Heathcliffscathy · 13/06/2007 23:24

I have. sorry was harsh. but like www I had sex aged 15 in a relationship (which incidentally lasted 3 1/2 years) and my mothers' reaction scarred me for life. seriously so.

fortyplus · 13/06/2007 23:25

Hear bloody hear - well done Custy!

My son is 13.5 and was shown pornographic images by a 12.5 year old when he was just 12 himself.

The guilty boy's parents grounded him for 3 months.

StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 23:28

It helped Custy You are wise and funny at the same time.

Seriously unlikely to have to worry about the "nappies" scenario.. but the condoms are entirely relevant anyway. Thanks.

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fortyplus · 13/06/2007 23:29

StifflersMom - if it's any consolation, when I was about 14 one of my friends and I used to write our own pornographic magazine! We were both virgins until we were at least 17

Heathcliffscathy · 13/06/2007 23:30

custy what....WHAT a post.

am humbled.

sorry stifflemumorwhateveryourpseudonymis.

it hit a sore spot.

easywriter · 13/06/2007 23:32

Cor Custy! I'm a MN-er with wee ones rather than teenagers but what you say makes pretty good sense.

SM, please let everyone know how you get on, it'll take a while as I can imagine this will take time to blow over but I'm sure it will.

StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 23:33

40+ we used to do that too! And the stories we used to write would get photo copied in the sixth form common room and passed around school!

If you weren't 40+ I'd think you were "one of my crowd" from school..

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AbRoller · 13/06/2007 23:33

well said custardo - ok so I havn't been here long but by far that was the best post I have read. I'm printing and keeping and hoping MN will still be going when I need your help with my teen (few more years)

It's made me smile.

heading to bed. nitenite

mozhe · 13/06/2007 23:38

You have overeacted.
You should not help yourself to his phone. Respect his privacy.
He is a teenager and experimenting....doesn't mean he is doing all that stuff. In fact unlikely.
Perhaps you should apologise ?

fortyplus · 13/06/2007 23:38

StifflersMom -

Another few years & I'll have to change my name to 50+!

Tortington · 13/06/2007 23:39

fortyplus10

minorityrules · 13/06/2007 23:39

Absolutely Custado

My points were over the trust issues and the contempt that was shown in your OP, you can't complain that people went ott over it. I gave you an example of how 1 episode can ruin trust in a daughter. It is similar however much you deny it. The only thing I will never do with my mum is trust her with anything private, like my sex life. I will talk to her about emotions and everything else. I have a good relationship with her but with one thing missing

Knowledge, openness and frankness, from mum and then maybe teen will follow is what I go with

I was concerned over the initial episode, cos if that isn't sorted, that boy will be terrified to come to mum

I am the mum of teens (ranging from 12 to 18, So I do speak with experience about the joys? of parenting young adults

He didn't stab someone, he had some porn and wrote bad words, it isn't the end of the world. It doesn't mean he is having sex or thinking of having sex....just means he is thinking about sex full stop. He is just learning to cope with sexuality (it is a new thing remember)

He is living with an illness that by the sounds of it, is a very hard thing to live with. Maybe he is going overboard with the "I am normal! and will live a normal life"

Puberty is foul for all concerned, he needs guidance and it sounds like you are now going to give him that after your initial shock.

BrothelSprouts · 13/06/2007 23:46

Custy, you are effing brilliant!

StifflersMom · 13/06/2007 23:48

I have always given him guidance Minority, I have not suddenly had an epiphany!

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UCM · 13/06/2007 23:59

Only going to add, I was up to no good at this age. My parents could not have stopped me. It was my choice.

The only good thing that came out of it was my father marching me 'down the road' for a termination. Lots of you may not think this, but believe me I think it was the best thing for me at the time. I couldn't have forseen my life at that age.

I will never ever let my DD out . I may let her go buy me some fags from the corner shop when she is 17.

auntyflorence · 14/06/2007 00:00

Stifflersmom: I just want to say that I think that you have handled this well. I am not at all surprised that you reacted with shock originally but you seem to have mended bridges well since then. I think that you are perfectly entitled to express your distress to your son, why do people seem to think that he is the only one who is allowed to have feelings about this situation?
I am appalled by those who are condoning sex at aged 14. It is too young and you should be encouraging them to wait a while yet (or, better still, try to engineer things so that the situation cannot arise).

Minorityrules: I really don?t understand you. Due to inexperience, your first sexual experience was date-rape at the age of 16 and yet you seem to think that 14 year olds are mature enough to handle this stuff!? You talked about how badly your mother handled the situation but you are the one who has not forgiven her and has been holding a grudge all these years. Who has the problem in this relationship?

Well said, Custardo. MNers should be parents to their children, not try to be ?best mates? with them.

minorityrules · 14/06/2007 00:12

before my date rape, I had just started dating and had about 3 boyfriends. The last one had got more intimate, we had gone past snogging but not as far as sex. He did a bad wrong thing that confused the hell out of me. It wasn't a violent act, it was a young boy not knowing how or when to stop. My mothers reaction was unexpected. this was my mum, the one person to love me unconditionally. Her reaction took away the trust I had for her. One event. I still think op's reaction was similiar one.

We don't have problem as long as sex isn't mentioned. It wasn't just me, my sister had a rollicking for going on the pill, age 18 with a fiance. My mum had issues where sex was concerned, well her daughters having sex anyway. I adore my mum but I learnt on that day not to go to her about anything sexual. I don't have a problem with it and it isn't something I usually tell people (after all shouting about being raped, as proven on here, just means you get shite reactions or it even put in italics, like it didn't happen)

I have never said underage sex is right, it isn't. But it is normal for teens to want to learn about it and experiment, mostly in secret or with peers. That's what I have been saying all along but unless you are well known on here, you just get ignored or get a dressing down (even if others have said the same thing)

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