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Threatened w legal action for reporting underage teen party???

171 replies

Debsnz · 02/05/2016 09:35

Hi I'm new here and somewhat gob smacked right now.

Over the weekend, I found that my teenage daughter had snuck out. She wasn't answering her phone, so I rang the police to report her missing and started driving around to try to find her.

I did eventually find her, walking the street with two friends. I told them to get in the car, which they did, and I immediately noticed the unmistakable smell of alcohol. My daughter swore she wasn't drinking, and I checked her breath, and she hadn't been. It was her friends.

So I took them back to their house, and got out the car to walk to the front door - intending to talk to their parents. Suddenly my daughters friend blocked my way and told me in no uncertain terms that I wasn't allowed in. I said I wanted to talk to her mother. She said, smugly, you can't - she's away for the weekend with her boyfriend. At this point I noticed movement in the house behind her; there were dozens of teenagers. Obviously, having a party while mum was away.

I said does your mother know you're having a party? To which she said yes she does and she said its ok. I was doubtful, and not at all impressed with her attitude. I told her that she is underage and it is illegal to drink without parental supervision; she continued to smugly smirk at me. I was shocked at her utter rudeness and disrespect.

I didn't believe her; besides, the police has asked me (on my earlier phone call) to let them know if I managed to locate my daughter. So I pulled out my phone, rang the police and told them the address, that there was an underage party going on with teen drinking and no parental supervision and perhaps they might want to come break it up. At this point, many of the teenagers left - they didn't want to get arrested, obviously.

In the meantime my daughter was crying that I was ruining her life, to which I said perhaps she'll think twice before she ever sneaks out to any other parties, then. I also gave the police the mothers contact details.

Tonight, having calmed down, I sent a text to the friends mother letting her know that I had discovered her kids walking the street drinking, and that when I took them home I discovered a house full of teenagers having a party. Perhaps I was naive, but I did not expect her response - that she had been talking to her lawyers and I would be receiving a letter from them soon, and to never contact her again! All I can think is that her "dear" children must have lied in order to avoid getting in trouble.

I'm flabbergasted. I admit I was very angry - I was worried sick when I discovered my daughter missing, and I couldn't believe her friends would be so rude and disrespectful - but I never would have thought someone would threaten legal action just because I contacted the police. Surely, she should've been grateful that I broke the party up so that her house didn't end up destroyed or anyone hurt (or worse) as is so often the case with underage drinking?

I'm not a complete goody-two-shoes fun police; I just don't think it's safe for kids to be drinking without any adults present, I definitely don't think teenage girls should be wandering round the streets at night drinking, anything could happen to them. Am I just old fashioned? Or is it the other mother with the problem?

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 02/05/2016 10:05

How do you know the mum wasn't there? Maybe the other girl just said that she was away to stop you going in the house to prevent the embarrassment.

dailymailphequers · 02/05/2016 10:05

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Thatrabbittrickedme · 02/05/2016 10:06

The fact you are not in the UK is an important detail OP - some parts of the world this is illegal, some not, and you need to adapt parenting to suit local laws. If I'd had a 16 yo while living in the Middle East, I would have different rules to in the UK.

Honestly your DD is 16, and has enough self control to not drink when her friends are - she seems pretty trustworthy. She should not have snuck out, but I feel a blanket ban on going to parties on a non-school night at 16 is somewhat harsh. You could have arranged to pick her up at an appropriate time, and be training her in personal safety such as not walking the streetsin the dark (assuming it was dark).

CuntyMcCuntface · 02/05/2016 10:06

When I was 16, and still at school, I was trusted to come and go as I pleased. There was alcohol, boys and cigarettes involved, true, but they're part of the process.

The party isn't the shocking part of the thread it is the way you treat your daughter. We all want to wrap them in cotton wool but it is very dangerous to do so. IME friends with the strictest upbringings were the wildest when set free.

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GlitteryShoes · 02/05/2016 10:07

There are sex offenders everywhere. Most are well known to the young person. Helping your daughter manage her safety by communicating with her will be your most helpful route. If she could trust you she would have talked to you about the party and you could have discussed how to keep safe.

Jeremysfavouriteaunt · 02/05/2016 10:08

It's okay, I just went to the NZ gov website and found this;

There is no age at which it is illegal to drink alcohol in New Zealand

So there you go.

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Lightbulbon · 02/05/2016 10:09

What country is this?

I can't imagine it's anywhere in Europe.

I had a mum like this.

I left home young then went to lots of parties

Biscetti · 02/05/2016 10:09

Apparently alcohol is allowed at home for under 18s in NZ. I'm assuming you spoke with all the parents to establish that they had or had not been informed. If it's the former, then it's perfectly legal. If it's the latter, dodgy ground, but hard to wade though, I'd imagine.

DoreenLethal · 02/05/2016 10:10

Oh dear Debs, looks like the sheeple have got the barbecue lit for you!

Her daughter is 16. Not 6.

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DailyMailAreAFuckingJoke · 02/05/2016 10:13

Ignore the solicitors letter. It's important to remember that anyone can instruct a solicitor to write a letter - the solicitor does not necessarily agree with the contents and may well have counselled against it. But if the client is willing to pay for it then fine and dandy. It means diddly squat in legal terms. It doesn't oblige you to do anything and it says more about the other parent than it does about you.

I would use it as a handy way of identifying a complete nutter and steering clear.

Jeremysfavouriteaunt · 02/05/2016 10:14

You think that the other mother is the nutter?! Shock

Biscetti · 02/05/2016 10:15

You think that the other mother is the nutter?!

Lol.

DailyMailAreAFuckingJoke · 02/05/2016 10:15

Oh and can you imagine the roasting that the OP would have had if she'd said that she'd dropped two drunk teens home, to a party in full swing which was taking place whilst the parents were away? MN baffles me sometimes, it truly does.

PovertyPain · 02/05/2016 10:15

Drip drip drip.

BombadierFritz · 02/05/2016 10:17

Oh dont be ridiculous jeremy of course nz has a concept of underage drinking

abbsismyhero · 02/05/2016 10:17

im horrified that parents on here think its perfectly normal for teenagers to lie and get pissed for fun thats fucking appalling alcohol is way to normalised it's easily available and easily abused cirrhosis of the liver is one of the top five biggest killers in the UK people should be taught to respect alcohol not abuse it

DailyMailAreAFuckingJoke · 02/05/2016 10:18

For threatening the OP with a solicitor just because OP has tried to do what she thought was the right thing, which was tell her that a teenage party was going on whilst she was away? Yes, I do think she's a nutter.

I appreciate that teen parties happen. I also appreciate that different people have different standards of what is acceptable and not. However if the other Mum thought that OP had overstepped then a simple text telling her that she knew about the party and there was nothing further to discuss, would have sufficed. I find it a bit ironic that OP is being accused of overreacting when the other Mum's threatening a solicitor!

BonitaFangita · 02/05/2016 10:18

MN baffles me sometimes, it truly does.

Ain't that the truth!

Jeremysfavouriteaunt · 02/05/2016 10:20

bombadier that was a direct copy from the governments website. I suggest that you contact them if you feel that the statement is 'ridiculous'.

Op said that drinking alcohol under the age of 18 is illegal. No it's not.

Debsnz · 02/05/2016 10:21

Cheers Dmafj

Yeah, I haven't received the so-called letter yet but I'm sure I'll have a good giggle at its contents anyway. And yep, one of my closest girlfriends is a lawyer so I know exactly how the system works :)

As for the legalities of teens drinking in NZ.... Sure, it's not illegal for the kids to drink. But it is illegal to provide alcohol to them, unless it is done by their own parents and in a safe and responsible manner. That doesn't mean giving them enough booze to throw a party then pissing off for the weekend to get laid, in my opinion.

Perhaps kids don't die from alcohol poisoning in the UK. But over here, they do. And I'm not going to just walk away and leave them to it, even if some other parents would.

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Jeremysfavouriteaunt · 02/05/2016 10:21

Op called the police and asked them to attend a party. Why? There was no evidence of illegality, no violence, no trouble.

She could simply have texted the mother to check that she knew that a party was going on.

Chlobee87 · 02/05/2016 10:21

Well if the parent has allowed her 16 year old to have a party at home in her absence (which she may well have done), I can see why she's seriously pissed off at you for phoning the police!

She may be happy for her children to get drunk in her absence, but she should have engaged her brain and realised that other parents would likely not be so pleased. She basically provided a lovely venue for a bunch of children to drink (and probably misbehave in various other ways - I remember being 16) in the full knowledge that many of their parents would not approve. She should have expected a roasting and I'm surprised if it's just this one parent who has an issue. Given the way that her daughter treated the OP, she also seems to have neglected to teach her child any manners. Maybe she should have been doing this instead of trying to be the 'cool' mum.

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