children's clothes with skulls on...WHY?

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I can't understand it - it's horrible, isn't it? Or is it just me being old fashioned?

The last thing I want is an image of a skull on my son's clothes.

I just found the dvd on amazon yay!!! one of the many nostalgic things I'll get for me my DCs

harpy - obviously I wasn't accusing your DD of being a wannabe

I do have something of a beef with the whole 'rebellion' thing, where very often they are just joining another, although smaller, group IYSWIM. a very teenagery thing, I just think, hey, be Yourself FGS!

wow, my soapbox is getting much-trodden today!

I know harpy!

I love the pink AK47 accented with hello kitty rhinestones they have on there as well! Ticks all the boxes for me

You'll love my nappy bag then...here

I love that nappy bag, it's a pity I don't need one any more.

I am getting my masters degree in palaeoanthropology (human evolution) and have to handle skulls every day. They're the building blocks that make our great big brains possible, and hold so much information about that being that possessed it.
I don't see it as morbid at all. And I really love the Mexican Day of the Dead skellies. They celebrate their ancestors and loved ones with these images, celebrate life (in all it's uniqueness and brevity) and the whole family goes out to the gravyard for a picnic to visit their dead loved ones.
I'm so getting the skull stuff for my future DC.

I don't really read that much into it really, those coats are horrible but you can get some quite nice stuff with skulls on.

DS's favourite story is Funnybones, I'd rather he wore a skull top than a Ben 10, Power rangers or Football shirt like most of the boys at his school seem to wear.

we love skulls..my fave scarf is purple with black skulls on..DS2 has clothes with skulls on..chosen by him...however his current face t shirt is one he got for his 9th birthday last week sporting a black and white photo of a tarantula..think I prefer the skulls!

Shinymom that's cool - it's just a Mexican thing though. Maybe we should start doing it over here?

Sal,

'I wonder if the people who think skulls are so morbid and inappropriate are the same people who would think kids shouldn't go to funerals and should be told that dead pets have gone to live on farms?'

Nooooo

nothing of the sort!

ShinyMom (or others!) ever been to the catacombs in Paris or this church in Rome?

ooh I loved funnybones as a kid. And I'd also rather DCs wore motifs than branded stuff generally, although DD does own a couple of Peppa Pig tees. Ugggggh power rangers. no way.

oh poo ignore the second one (I put the same link both times) the Rome one is here

Blimey Ben 10, Thomas the Tank Engine and Bloody Bob the Builder are all more distatsteful than skulls IMO.

salbysea wrote " I wonder if the people who think skulls are so morbid and inappropriate are the same people who would think kids shouldn't go to funerals and should be told that dead pets have gone to live on farms?"

All my children who were old enough went to their brothers funeral and they visited him in hospital when he was dying. So I don't think their childhood is " sanitised". They have seen more illness, death and loss than many adults, so i do not wish them to wear clothing that glamourises or glorifies death.

That is my choice now - when they are older they will make their own decisions about such things.

I wonder why some people think that wearing high fashion clothing with skulls on it is somehow ensuring that their children face up to the realities of life? As if somehow their children are better educated or more knowlegeable than those who have a car/football/flower on their t shirt

It is the Alexander McQueen r.i.p effect.I personally like them wish I had one of Alexanders gorgeous scarves.I went and bought a gorgeous sweatshirt from New look for myself with a skull on it.My ds 4 thinks I look the business.Dh dosn't though

I agree that piles of skulls can evoke Rwanda and Cambodia (both places which I have spent some time BTW). However, piles of shoes make me think of the concentration camps and we're not stopping children wearing shoes! I would choose skulls over Disney-I'm-a-surrendered-woman-princesses any day.

Although I've never recovered from my 5 year old niece telling her grandmother (when she had bought me a pink top for Christmas) "Auntie Katie HATES pink".

I love skulls, etc on kids' clothes.

Agree withthose who say better than Disney shite or all that crappy pink.

Stanasaurus, that is quite poss the coolest nappy bag ever!

DS wears skulls and looks v cool imo. As a weeny baby we had no money at all and were donated a load of heinous pink baby grows which we tie-dyed purple and black and sewed rock patches (Metallica etc) over the cutesy pink emblems. He looked ace and we got loads of compliments.

Disclaimer: I haven't worn tie-dye myself for many, many years but I v happy to live out my inner gothdom vicariously through DS.

nothing worse that skulls on kids clothes in my opinion...and i seriously dont know what skulls and crossbones have in common with dinos and roaring lions?!
i think let kids be kids and when they're teenies and wanne wears skulls, thats fine( i was a goth in my teens and turned out quite ok...)but on wee ones and babies?!? no thank u...

a skull being on a top wouldnt bother me in the slightest. I wouldnt buy it because i dont like anything on tops, mine just wear plain or striped things but a child walking round head to toe in Dora or Peppa Pig gear or 'mummy loves me' tops or silly baby grows with ears on bother me far more than skulls on boys tops.
Little boys have always had things like that on their clothes and just because they have a skull on their top doesnt mean they are going to grow up and be violent

IMO, a skull means that a person has definitely died. In the West, we are very clever (when compared to developing countries) at avoiding death with sophisticated medicines, treatments, hospitals, skilled surgeons, etc. We can wear skulls with abandon because we are privileged enough to not have to worry about death. We also have a dominant fashion industry which likes pushing back boundaries, so skulls on kiddie clothing = why not?!

I have visited Aushwitz and Birkenau and I've seen the piles of spectacles, hair, suitcases, shoes, documents, etc, however out of the concentration camp context, these objects do not necessarily equate with death.

"I wonder why some people think that wearing high fashion clothing with skulls on it is somehow ensuring that their children face up to the realities of life? As if somehow their children are better educated or more knowlegeable than those who have a car/football/flower on their t shirt"

I don't, I just don't think skull/bones = death + murder and don't think they are something to be scared of. Bones are good my kids will be allowed to wear stuff with bones / skulls / periodic tables etc. We all have skulls and we haven't been murdered! Sounds like as far as some of you are concerned, wearing a skull might as well be wearing stuff with knives and guns on which I find very odd and morbid!

I think the debenhams coats are horrible BTW, don't like the colors / style

"and i seriously dont know what skulls and crossbones have in common with dinos and roaring lions" a kid with an interest in natural history would be just as interested in human anatomy as dinos and lions surely? I was!

So, characterisations of flesh tearing, mauling predators are OK but not characterisations of skulls?

Most people are not offended by hearts on girls' clothes, why is that so different from a skull?