WWW's 10 years older slipper camp for middle aged frumps

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Hello everyone, old and new.

This is about feeling better about yourself and looking and feeling better etc. But mainly we chat and laugh quite a lot, which has all got to help towards happiness etc.

The rules (anyone can join):

• Sunscreen at all times

• No or little booze. Wine or Champagne or whatever at the weekend is allowed if you want it

• Walking is important, a small amount every day if possible. 30 mins if you can

• Lots of water, aim for 2 litres a day

• Apply body cream as often as possible

• Use hand cream

• Go to bed early, by 10.30pm if pos

• Eat healthily

• Be happy

The idea is that we all feel happier, healthier and glow with the good food, sleep, exercise, water and lack of sun damage.

Some people are doing India and Neris's Idiot Proof Diet (Atkins, more or less), others are doing Slimy World, others are just being as healthy as possible.

Welcome everyone, have a good week.

oh eemie well done! (grabs hold a piece of wood)

sorry about the bargain price though but at least it's an offer (and may seem like you sold it at a good price in a year's time!). Houses round here have dropped by around 25% in the last year (from the over inflated estate agent prices).

Hello everyone, lots of news to read.

Welcome back to blighty Mavis, sorry about impending split - sounds tough.

www Well done on not accepting contract, gosh, have you all really been doing this for 2 years?! You must all be so healthy and radiant!

I have had shite afternoon, well actually a nice afternoon mooching round clothes shops but I find clothes shopping a thorougly depressing experience. I went in all pleased with myself for having lost 8lbs!!! But after a look in the changing room mirror I am now in depths of gloom about baggy old body. Soooo depressing. Sigh.

Now I just feel like munching my way through a box of doughnuts but am still on this bloody juice diet which is starting to get right on my wick. Last day today tho.

Moonshine am also at your running. Have you been running for ages? I must start again.

www we have been in Oz for 2.4 yrs. Sometimes it's ACE sometimes it's rubbish. But summer is coming so HURRAH for that.

Hey bama/mavis ... So sorry to hear you're having a tough time. And much sym/empathy - our split was pretty much on the cards throughout my pregnancy and it sucked (much worse, weirdly, than it was after DS was born and we were able to make some decisions). Guess my only advice would be to take it as easy as far as you can, congratulate yourself on having at least taken the blardy exams (no small achievement, given) and try to view the situations as dispassionately as it's possible to do. I found Relate fairly helpful (even though in our case it moved us along the road to splitting up). Do you want to stay together - is the move to split coming from your DH? Do mail me if there's anything I can do, or just for off-board chattage - I think my CAT thing works now. And welcome back!

Alas, it is Grimsville Tennessee in this house at the moment.Packing, moving, bleech. Happily my dear old dad is here to help, but I am feeling, I think, bleaker than I have done for a while; reality of the next bit (back to work, living at my sister's (lovely as that will be, sharing a room with DS doesn't hugely appeal!), starting him at nursery, starting me back at work) beginning to bite. DP being v nice though, and bought me some ice cream last night as a sort of silent sympathy-present. So I ate it! Did do much hefting of boxes yesterday, though, which I feel must have helped.

And on a more bootcampy front, I looked at my legs yesterday and I was Not Impressed. They are pale, podgy and yeauch. What to do?

Oh L&S so sorry, it all sounds miserable at the moment. Just try to trudge on through I suppose. Tis all that can be done in grim times. So sorry.

Re the legs try either Johnson Holiday Skin or v v thick black tights. Either will improve them .

At work so in haste as I actually ahe a bit of work to do, boss hiss but just wnated to say so sorry Mavis to read of impending possible separation. And L&S, sorry it's grim packing.

I ate CARBS all day yesterday

toast
cheese on toast
pastries
Coke
chip butties, plural
little sleep at lunchtime (working from home)

BUT no wine and was in bed by 10 but feel RUBBISH today due to aforementioned carbs.

Never mind, 1 day down, 2 to go.

Have read you all, will post in more detail later if pos. I am 42 tomorrow, sob.

Well, I have been utterly utterly virtuous so not sure whether I should join slippercamp! I have been in no-carb hell for the last two weeks so am Grump rather than Frump. Now back on the porridge oats thank goodness. Am relying on a tape measure rather than scales to show me what I have lost ? a fair bit so feel v pleased Am not really drinking much which has made a massive difference re: feeling less tired ? am full of vim and vigour ? why why why do I always forget this? Although I do spend rather a lot of time reminding myself that ?nothing tastes as good as thin feels? ? completely nauseating I agree but hey, it does work when I am confronted with a box of walnut whips in M and S.

I have been spending WAY too much time thinking about what I eat but other preoccupations; Halloween costumes for both kids at a moments notice, sorting out a particularly tricky piece of school gov business, worries re: DP?s metal equilibrium and of course that toad Work - a good review meeting recently enabled me to winkle out a bit more time at home. It?s the downhill stretch to half term ? am taking the children up north to family for some of it so am looking forward to fending off my mother attempting to feed me up and also catching up with some very old friends.

L and S sorry things are so grim. I find making lists very therapeutic when I feel like there is just too much to be borne ? that and eating Green and Blacks butterscotch. I am sure I speak for the whole of Slippercamp when I say eat the ice cream! Mavis too. DP and I had a massive wobble earlier this year Mavis ? still together. Counselling (separately) helped us a lot although we did go to relate a couple of times too.

WWW I think it would have been madness to take that contract. Am so pleased you?re having a break ? sounds as though your whole family need you to be around a bit more for a time. As a commuter myself, I know that your last few months would have broken me ? you can feel really proud of yourself.

Sympathies to all who are struggling with holiday childcare, ill children, house moves,job tedium, tight clothes and scaly legs. We all need one of Marina?s ?restorative? curries and a brownie
Well, I have been utterly utterly virtuous so not sure whether I should join slippercamp! I have been in no-carb hell for the last two weeks so am Grump rather than Frump. Now back on the porridge oats thank goodness. Am relying on a tape measure rather than scales to show me what I have lost ? a fair bit so feel v pleased Am not really drinking much which has made a massive difference re: feeling less tired ? am full of vim and vigour ? why why why do I always forget this? Although I do spend rather a lot of time reminding myself that ?nothing tastes as good as thin feels? ? completely nauseating I agree but hey, it does work when I am confronted with a box of walnut whips in M and S.

I have been spending WAY too much time thinking about what I eat but other preoccupations; Halloween costumes for both kids at a moments notice, sorting out a particularly tricky piece of school gov business, worries re: DP?s metal equilibrium and of course that toad Work - a good review meeting recently enabled me to winkle out a bit more time at home. It?s the downhill stretch to half term ? am taking the children up north to family for some of it so am looking forward to fending off my mother attempting to feed me up and also catching up with some very old friends.

L and S sorry things are so grim. I find making lists very therapeutic when I feel like there is just too much to be borne ? that and eating Green and Blacks butterscotch. I am sure I speak for the whole of Slippercamp when I say eat the ice cream! Mavis too. DP and I had a massive wobble earlier this year Mavis ? still together. Counselling (separately) helped us a lot although we did go to relate a couple of times too.

WWW I think it would have been madness to take that contract. Am so pleased you?re having a break ? sounds as though your whole family need you to be around a bit more for a time. As a commuter myself, I know that your last few months would have broken me ? you can feel really proud of yourself.

Sympathies to all who are struggling with holiday childcare, ill children, house moves,job tedium, tight clothes and scaly legs. We all need one of Marina?s ?restorative? curries and a brownie

Blimey HOW did that happen? A double post!

Foo - you are obviously very preoccupied

Sorry to hear of all the Grimness/Grumpiness/Frumpiness. Tis the time of year I think, winter will be upon us and the clocks will go back soon making for dark nights in with wine and choc.

It us tres busy in the Saggar household. Which is good because too much time means too much dwelling on dd's appintment next week. And I'd be able to dwell much less if the Trainline website would let me book the farkin tickets! Plus dh has done his knee in again (playing golf - I mean how can you??) I'm so unsympathetic.

Moonshine - well done on the run. I need to pull my finger out in that respect.

L&S many sympathies on the moving, it feels as though nothing's right for a while and that's when you do it for the best of reasons.

And Mavis, sad to hear of impending split.

Trying not to anticipate house sale too much - two weeks since accepting offer, the prospective purchasers haven't provided copy of their mortgage 'agreement in principle' or booked a survey or instructed a solicitor . And our agent has gone on two weeks' holiday.

Puppy sick again, poor thing. Can't chop her up for cat food when she's poorly.

Cat, meanwhile, has reacted to new cat flap (which took dh much ingenuity and two days to fit) by crapping on carpet for first time ever. Aargh.

Footthesnoo - good job you're back on those carbs .

Mavis - so sorry that you think your relationship may be over - do you think there is any iota of hope it can be 'saved'.

L&S - during the summer I briefly flirted with various fake tans and must admit the (albeit) expensive St Tropez was by far, ime, the best. It was easy to apply and didn't streak (the Johnsons and Dove one did but then I am no expert at application).

Eemie sorry to hear about the puppy - maybe the cat feels his pain??

I feel like I am bigging up my running and fitness a little too much now! I am inconsistent when it comes to doing long runs and cannot claim to them regularly (not yet anyway!). I have been running once or twice a week since the spring I think and 3 times a week since about September. The thing that has improved my 'performance' by far is interval training without a doubt. Also having really fast guitar music is probably my second weapon - each 2 or 3 minute wonder gives me extra impetus every time.

I had a lovely yoghurt earmarked for pudding for lunch but dropped it (cue embarassing mess in M&S) and saw that as a sign from Some Higher Place that I need to cut out such things out for now. I am really trying to pare my diet down to the basics.

I also wore one of my pairs of Trousers of Truth which were still tight but did not have such a big muffin top spilling out and I am trying to use this as motivation (that and wanting to get rid of the hint of camel-toe ).

just a quickie whilst DH reads a story to the lovely DTs (who have just returned from their first school disco!)

v good Mon/Tues, no booze, early nights, fruit, no puds, light suppers, moisturiser, a couple of hours on wii fit (having put on 4 lb last week )... but today am feeling tired and grumpy, not helped by DTs being equally tired and grumpy and work being foul and horrible had lardy lunch and will have a G&T once DTs are in bed

Thanks for all the kind words - it aint over til the fat lady sings and all that but I fear she may be tuning up.

However, thanks to the restorative powers of bootcamp I have, for the first time in months, managed to drink 2l of water. I did think about the consequences of the third biscuit but then thought "fark it, I'm pregnant, I'm allowed". This attitude may come back to haunt me when I'm wailing about my inability to shift pregnancy weight.

moonshine - I am very of your running, I really got into it before being pregnant - I found anything by Faithless (particularly Insomnia) was good to run to.

eemie everything crossed for the house sale.

L&S - sorry everything seems so bleak, I will cat you for some "men - bastards - discuss" type stuff

Right, off for some cheese. And Gaviscon.

Another reasonable but gym-free day. Have done loads of active stuff though like raking leaves, washing the car (gleaming inside and out now), more cleaning, etc. Not a bad day all told. Legs are improving daily and have not had so much attention ever. Am using Elle McPherson(sp?) body lotion which has a fantastic scent of sweet limes (Very like Jo Malone stuff but much cheaper). Tonight I am doing Crabtree and Evelyn's hand therapy treatment!

DH back tomorrow and will no doubt have many a tale to tell. I will regale him with the fun one can have washing the car or doing the ironing or any one of a number of other menial tasks which fill my days. Anyone else feel left behind as their DH's career flourishes? As DD1 said today "Dad does the interesting stuff" and boy is she right.

Hello

Just a quick one as I'm off to bed

Today
sausages
spinach, lettuce, tuna and green bean salad
baby bel x 2, mini Austrian smoked cheese
brazil nuts
green beans
onions
2 sausages
water
no wine
about to go to bed

TWO days left of commuting!

Yesterday
Small slice of toast
banana
veg pasta
apple pie and custard (round a mates)
Not enough water (as usual)
Did moisturise
Got some work lined up - don't want to do it

batters - ha ha ha, I had the foresight to hide some Ritter Sport Marzipan in my bedside table.

Huge sympathies to those going through marriage/partnership hell.

Saggars - good luck on waiting until next week. I hate that; the waiting, I mean. eemie, you too. Oops, I mean, good luck on the waiting, not that I hate you too. Ack.

Yoyo - I emailed my husband at work last week to tell him the joys of washing soda. To his credit, he acted somewhat interested.

WWW - by the time you read this, you'll be down to a day and a half to go, yay!

ducky, foo and moonshine are doing well at bootcamp, everyone else seems to be in slipper camp mode (myself firmly in the latter but of course).

Am not eating great but think it's excused by the fact that the boys have made dinner two nights in a row. Well, the younger one had huge amounts of some help, natch. Got a couple of rabbits from the butcher so am really looking forward to a healthy and tasty (and cheap) dinner tonight though! Am hoping slippers arrive today, too. They've been shipped, so should be here soon.

blackduck - good luck with work (and is that all you ate?)

JJ - yep - all a bit in a rush yesterday and lunch got missed somewhere.....

Ah, I am 42 (, how did THAT happen?)today and my colleagues have given me loads of cake and a beautiful bunch of flowers and a box of chocolates and they all sang Happy Birthday to me. Plus my desk was decorated with balloons and a banner, how fab!

Happy Birthday WWW!

Happy birthday WWW. Hope you have a fab evening that will involve a fair few glasses of cava. Have fun.

how come you are all ten years older on this thread

did you give up or were you all so successful you are having to add years instead of taking them off

Happy Birthday WWW. Have a lovely cake and cava filled day.

Happy birthday www! I am 42 soon too - 1966 was a great vintage.

Well how the virtuous have fallen today! I drank wine last night - dh and I had both had a bad day and ended up drinking, listening to music and having a bit of a giggle - so happy today. Been v v good on the food front.

Eemie fingers crossed for sale. tell me about having a puppy - is it an utter nightmare? Kids and I want a dog - in no position to have one yet but it's on my masterplan.

Thinking about decorating and other home improvements today. Can't see us moving for a few years - we do need more space though and more storage!