How much do you pay for botox?

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Can I ask how much people pay for botox? I just want a single area doing, the vertical lines between my eyebrows. I want to go to someone qualified, a nurse or doc preferably! The price range seems so huge so I was just wondering what is 'normal'?

In Korea they do the peripheries of forehead and crows feet and cheeks and skip the 11s entirely so less of a frozen look (if that’s what you prefer) which makes the puffiness less under the eyes than I’d get with UK Botox which was making my cheeks bigger and getting puffy under my eyes. Not going home
for a year though so need somewhere similar in London!

In London, I pay £135 for glabellar (one area) at the Therapie chain.

I swear there are some major misconceptions about Botox. It really doesn't have to look fake. My injector looks amazing. Obviously if you go mad and spock your brows etc but there are so many different degrees.

I do mine to avoid looking angry with people (I can be a bit miserable at the best of times).

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Interestingly enough I listened to Sliced Bread's episode on collagen on BBC Sounds at the weekend. Botox was recommended over collagen.

There’s absolutely zero evidence that collagen supplementation reduces wrinkles. Botox can eliminate them.

Yes - tretinoin or retinol (I forget which), sunscreen, good moisturiser, good diet and exercise were also recommended. Sunscreen was no.1.

Not a helpful answer, but I’m very lucky. DSis is a dentist and is also qualified for facial trauma surgery so I get it cost price. I get my 11s, crows feet and forehead done. I think the little bottle (I dunno what it’s called) holds enough for 3 areas so it’s more cost effective to get 3 done?

Botox is one of those treatments practitioners don’t tend to make much money on because the Botox itself is quite pricey, mine doesn’t charge much more than cost but it’s seen as the “gateway drug” to her other more profitable treatments so that’s why she offers it, I appreciated her honesty at least 🤣

Hm, looks like this probably isn’t the thread for you.

Top of face about, $600CAD / £317
at last year's prices. Haven't been able to justify the expense this year, though.

Going by the prices on here, what I pay is much cheaper.

The last time I got some new thing. I can’t remember what it’s called but It’s administered the exact same way but it lasts up to 6 months, full effects after a couple of days rather than the 2 weeks. I really liked it. It was slightly more expensive.

Oh. Do you not think any toxin injected in your face is ‘normal’?

Add: water, sleep, not smoking (anything) or drinking alcohol and reducing stress. 🙂

Absolutely. Tret and retinol are the gold standard. Plus SPF Botox, of course.

Was thinking the same. Never considered it but the area between my brows would defo look better without the frowny bits!
I wonder if the practices just say that to get more business?

what type of theatre? If she was cardio theatres (or any theatre actually) she wouldn’t have much experience if injecting poison into people’s face!

Lost loads of weight, you say? 🤔

I pay £90 for one area in the NW and that's by a nurse prescriber.

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Did it hurt more? I sometimes opt for a stronger version (can’t remember what it’s called) it works quicker and lasts longer, but makes me swear a lot when it’s being injected!

£170 for two areas. I have it in my masseter muscles to treat chronic jaw clenching, and between the eyebrows. The latter was originally for reasons of vanity but I've been pleasantly surprised that it has really reduced the number of headaches that I get. The pain relief in my jaw has been life-changing.

Just to clear up some misunderstandings.

Botox was originally developed to inject into the masseter muscle, the muscle that connects your bottom jaw to your top jaw. The muscle becomes very bulky in people who grind/brux their teeth excessively giving them an over developed square jaw ( Sophie Ellis Bexter is a good example).

Injecting Botox into the muscle paralyses it so you no longer over clench. This has two effects the first is to reduce the chronic pain associated with extreme bruxing, the second is to debulk the muscle. When you can no longer use the muscle it reduces in size, think body builder who can’t train.

Only small areas of the masseter are treated otherwise you would be walking around with your mouth wide open all the time.

With its success in treating medical problems, it’s also been used in other conditions where muscle spasms cause imbalance, and the observation that using small amounts targeted at specific muscles its use in cosmetics grew.

It’s not a cow toxin, it is derived from bacteria found in soil or contaminated food. Outbreaks are usually the result of contaminated food where the spores infect a can of food where the seal has failed. The bacteria have time to grow and produce the neurotoxin responsible for botulism. Others food that provide the opportunity and time for toxin levels to become significant are fermented vegetable products and honey. If you ingest the spores generally your body kills the bacteria before they produce the toxin, however in infants and immunosuppressed individuals, it may cause symptoms.

So after the lecture:-

1. the toxin produced for medical use is safe as long as it is from a licenced reputable source.
2. if used correctly it does iron out the creases
3. avoid the lip curl/lift combined with fillers- you will struggle to drink without dribbling and you will not be able to use a straw along with other activities that require a fully functioning obicularis oris
4. new regs mean that you must be assessed by a prescriber if person who injects you is not qualified to prescribe
5. less is more, freezing your face makes social interactions weird, people can’t read the subtle expressions because your face can no longer make them

I toyed with the idea of training to do Botox and fillers, but I just didn’t fancy dealing with problems if it goes wrong. I give injections into the mouth and face multiple times a day at work so I’m used to sticking needles in people, but for me it doesn’t align with our “do no harm” mantra.

I have had Botox and was impressed with the results. It was subtle and although I could see the difference my DH never spotted it, the ultimate test.

Unfortunately the colleague who did it has stopped doing any facial aesthetics because the indemnity insurance is extortionate and she doesn’t really have the time to do enough cases to make it worth while.

The one thing I won’t have done is fillers, I’ve just seen too many disasters and I don’t mean when it goes wrong but when it ruins a perfectly beautiful face by distorting the features. But as someone who gets very up close and personal with patients I see what the makeup and phone filters cover up.

It has been used cosmetically for over 30 years.
Roughly 8 million to 9 million people get cosmetic Botox every year.
About 900,00 are in the UK.

But if you are against cosmetic Botox, you must also be against make-up and hair colour/straightening/curling? Any clothing that alters the appearance of your body, ie bras?
Also, ear-rings/piercings and tattoos of any kind?

It's difficult to know where to start and stop. Beauty is subjective and luckily there are a myriad choices one can try. 💁‍♀️

To be fair, the five I listed were from an expert in the field.

You can’t compare makeup and hair dye to Botox! Unless you’re injecting mascara into your eyes? 🤨 Piercings and tattoos fair enough, but makeup, hair dye and curl treatments, really? I had my first perm when I was 11, should we be letting 11 year olds get Botox because it’s the same as perming your hair?